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10-30-2024, 11:12 PM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Anyone notice how trump is saying "250 million Americans are not garbage"? Our total population is 330 million, so I have to assume trump is excluding 80 million Biden/Harris supporters.
Why? I guess Trump figures nobody would be dumb enough to insult their own supporters.
I think he's giving Joey too much credit. Joey actually thinks ALL Americans are garbage, including his fellow Democrats and Kamala supporters.
Or should I say... ESPECIALLY his fellow Dems and Kamala supporters?
Et tu, Brutus?
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Oh yes, very good observation, as I've said, eventually hate spreads to everyone, including your former allies.
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10-31-2024, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Anyone notice how trump is saying "250 million Americans are not garbage"? Our total population is 330 million, so I have to assume trump is excluding 80 million Biden/Harris supporters.
Why? I guess Trump figures nobody would be dumb enough to insult their own supporters.
I think he's giving Joey too much credit. Joey actually thinks ALL Americans are garbage, including his fellow Democrats and Kamala supporters.
Or should I say... ESPECIALLY his fellow Dems and Kamala supporters?
Et tu, Brutus?
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At least team red hat is admitting Joe got 81 million votes now. That's somewhat of a relief.
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10-31-2024, 11:25 AM
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At least team red hat is admitting Joe got 81 million ballots now. That's somewhat of a relief.
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11-01-2024, 08:59 PM
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#49
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AKA Admiral Waco Kid
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
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well now, look who's altering the facts!
White House altered Biden transcript
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-hou...171002408.html
Late Tuesday, as Joe Biden’s comment referring to Donald Trump’s supporters as “garbage” created a firestorm, top communications aides inside the White House broke with protocol, amending the official transcript of his comment — without waiting for sign-off from the stenography office.
The edit was a single apostrophe — but one freighted with political and electoral implications.
Biden, during a call with Latino leaders, reacted strongly to a Trump-backing comedian’s remark at the GOP nominee’s Sunday rally disparaging Puerto Rico as “a floating island of garbage.” The president, according to the transcript prepared by White House stenographers, told the people on the call: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.”
Biden’s statement and the firestorm since has threatened to distract from Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign ahead of Election Day. The call on which Biden made the remarks was held shortly before Harris’ campaign speech just hundreds of yards away on the Ellipse making her closing argument for voters to reject Trump.
The edit to the official White House transcript underscores the lengths Biden administration officials went to limit the political damage of Biden’s comments. The fallout of the president’s remark continues to reverberate, adding even greater anxiety to Biden’s final public appearances before the election, expected Friday and Saturday. In addition, Republicans on Capitol Hill are already asking questions about the transcript change, raising the possibility of an investigation.
No one can hear an apostrophe. But after deputy chief of staff Annie Tomasini and communications director Ben LaBolt spoke with Biden about the remark and the brewing backlash, they were confident that Biden hadn’t meant to disparage all Trump supporters and was intending to reference comedian Tony Hinchcliffe.
They first attempted to clarify his intent with a tweet from Biden’s account that the president personally approved. But as the communications team reviewed the transcript of the call, aides decided to add the apostrophe, changing “supporters” to “supporter’s” so it would be clearer that the president was referring to Hinchcliffe alone, according to three people familiar with the process who were granted anonymity to speak candidly.
The Associated Press first reported on the administration’s altering of the original transcript on Thursday night, adding fuel to a controversy that Harris and the White House are eager to move past. Both Harris and her running mate, Tim Walz, were quick on Wednesday morning to disavow any disparaging of people, intended or not, based on who they vote for or support.
That report referenced an email the director of the stenography office, Amy Sands, sent to LaBolt, press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and other aides in the press and communications shop on Wednesday laying out what happened and why it was a breach of procedure.
Sands, according to two of the people familiar with the process, had sought out those colleagues in person on Wednesday morning and spoke to at least one of them directly before sending the email.
Sands, who has worked in the White House stenography office for more than a decade, declined to comment.
But in her email, shared with POLITICO by another official, was precise about the timeline of events, stating that press aides did try to contact her about the changes more than once but opted to send out the edited transcript before she was able to respond.
“The press office, having conferred with the president, requested changes to the transcript at 9:10pm and attempted to contact me for approval,” Sands wrote. “I was unable to review their requested changes immediately. At 9:35pm, after attempting to contact me again, the Press Office created a 9:45pm release timeline that I didn't confirm, and then edited and released the campaign transcript at 10:09pm, bypassing standard Stenography Office edit and release protocols.”
That decision, Sands wrote, was “a breach of protocol and spoliation of transcript integrity” because it’s her office, not the press shop, that should have the final say in determining what the president actually said. What he, or any other official, meant to say is immaterial for stenographers, whose office is non-political and whose work is to create an accurate historical record that will be preserved by the National Archives.
“If there is a difference in interpretation, the Press Office may choose to withhold the transcript but cannot edit it independently,” the supervisor wrote, adding, “Our Stenography Office transcript — released to our distro, which includes the National Archives — is now different than the version edited and released to the public by Press Office staff.”
In her email, Sands did not weigh in on the accuracy of the press team’s edit or indicate that she would or would not have approved the amended transcript. Her expressed concern was not having the chance to review the audio and make a determination herself.
White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates, who issued his own post on X on Tuesday night aiming to clarify the intent of Biden’s remark, suggested that the addition of the apostrophe was a matter of ensuring the transcript’s accuracy.
“The President confirmed in his tweet on Tuesday evening that he was addressing the hateful rhetoric from the comedian at Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally,” Bates said in a statement. “That was reflected in the transcript.”
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11-01-2024, 09:02 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
well now, look who's altering the facts!
White House altered Biden transcript
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-hou...171002408.html
Late Tuesday, as Joe Biden’s comment referring to Donald Trump’s supporters as “garbage” created a firestorm, top communications aides inside the White House broke with protocol, amending the official transcript of his comment — without waiting for sign-off from the stenography office.
The edit was a single apostrophe — but one freighted with political and electoral implications.
Biden, during a call with Latino leaders, reacted strongly to a Trump-backing comedian’s remark at the GOP nominee’s Sunday rally disparaging Puerto Rico as “a floating island of garbage.” The president, according to the transcript prepared by White House stenographers, told the people on the call: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters — his — his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.”
Biden’s statement and the firestorm since has threatened to distract from Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign ahead of Election Day. The call on which Biden made the remarks was held shortly before Harris’ campaign speech just hundreds of yards away on the Ellipse making her closing argument for voters to reject Trump.
The edit to the official White House transcript underscores the lengths Biden administration officials went to limit the political damage of Biden’s comments. The fallout of the president’s remark continues to reverberate, adding even greater anxiety to Biden’s final public appearances before the election, expected Friday and Saturday. In addition, Republicans on Capitol Hill are already asking questions about the transcript change, raising the possibility of an investigation.
No one can hear an apostrophe. But after deputy chief of staff Annie Tomasini and communications director Ben LaBolt spoke with Biden about the remark and the brewing backlash, they were confident that Biden hadn’t meant to disparage all Trump supporters and was intending to reference comedian Tony Hinchcliffe.
They first attempted to clarify his intent with a tweet from Biden’s account that the president personally approved. But as the communications team reviewed the transcript of the call, aides decided to add the apostrophe, changing “supporters” to “supporter’s” so it would be clearer that the president was referring to Hinchcliffe alone, according to three people familiar with the process who were granted anonymity to speak candidly.
The Associated Press first reported on the administration’s altering of the original transcript on Thursday night, adding fuel to a controversy that Harris and the White House are eager to move past. Both Harris and her running mate, Tim Walz, were quick on Wednesday morning to disavow any disparaging of people, intended or not, based on who they vote for or support.
That report referenced an email the director of the stenography office, Amy Sands, sent to LaBolt, press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and other aides in the press and communications shop on Wednesday laying out what happened and why it was a breach of procedure.
Sands, according to two of the people familiar with the process, had sought out those colleagues in person on Wednesday morning and spoke to at least one of them directly before sending the email.
Sands, who has worked in the White House stenography office for more than a decade, declined to comment.
But in her email, shared with POLITICO by another official, was precise about the timeline of events, stating that press aides did try to contact her about the changes more than once but opted to send out the edited transcript before she was able to respond.
“The press office, having conferred with the president, requested changes to the transcript at 9:10pm and attempted to contact me for approval,” Sands wrote. “I was unable to review their requested changes immediately. At 9:35pm, after attempting to contact me again, the Press Office created a 9:45pm release timeline that I didn't confirm, and then edited and released the campaign transcript at 10:09pm, bypassing standard Stenography Office edit and release protocols.”
That decision, Sands wrote, was “a breach of protocol and spoliation of transcript integrity” because it’s her office, not the press shop, that should have the final say in determining what the president actually said. What he, or any other official, meant to say is immaterial for stenographers, whose office is non-political and whose work is to create an accurate historical record that will be preserved by the National Archives.
“If there is a difference in interpretation, the Press Office may choose to withhold the transcript but cannot edit it independently,” the supervisor wrote, adding, “Our Stenography Office transcript — released to our distro, which includes the National Archives — is now different than the version edited and released to the public by Press Office staff.”
In her email, Sands did not weigh in on the accuracy of the press team’s edit or indicate that she would or would not have approved the amended transcript. Her expressed concern was not having the chance to review the audio and make a determination herself.
White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates, who issued his own post on X on Tuesday night aiming to clarify the intent of Biden’s remark, suggested that the addition of the apostrophe was a matter of ensuring the transcript’s accuracy.
“The President confirmed in his tweet on Tuesday evening that he was addressing the hateful rhetoric from the comedian at Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally,” Bates said in a statement. “That was reflected in the transcript.”
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BAHAHAHA
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11-02-2024, 10:46 AM
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#51
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11-02-2024, 11:26 AM
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#52
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Kamala Harris fired Joe Biden?
Bam, you are aware that Kamala is currently VP, Joe Biden is our President, and Kamala reports to Joe, right?
And that the VP can't fire the P... you know this, right?
And the P can't fire the VP, either!
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Unlike the cabinet (e.g., Secretary of State, Attorney General, Secretary of Defense, etc.), and the White House Staff (e.g., Chief-of-Staff, Press Secretary, etc.) the office of the Vice President, his term and the requirements for his removal from office are all established explicitly in Article II of the Constitution.
Office, Term—United States Constitution, Article II, Section 1 The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows [emphasis added]
Removal—United States Constitution, Article II, Section 4 The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
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You ok? Or just grossly misinformed?
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11-02-2024, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
Kamala Harris fired Joe Biden?
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Yep, she fired him from the campaign trail!
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
Bam, you are aware that... Joe Biden is our President?
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Scary, isn't it?
Are we even going to make it til Jan. 20 with this buffoon in the Oval office?
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11-02-2024, 01:27 PM
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The Man (He/Him/His)
Join Date: May 7, 2019
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We let the last buffoon have 4 years and you're trying to give him another 4.
Suck it up, you can make it to Jan 20th
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11-02-2024, 02:27 PM
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I'll say it again
If you want to yell at Joe for calling you, you personally, an idiot, because you, you personally follow MAGA, that's fine. But, he can fucking do it, no matter how hurt your feelings are. FIRST AMENDMENT BABY!
If you want to condemn him for calling you, you personally, an idiot, or for calling other people an idiot, that's fine, too. First amendment means you can condemn anyone for anything you like!
But if you also do not condemn Trump for calling all those people names, then sir, you, you personally, are a hypocrite.
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11-02-2024, 03:37 PM
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11-02-2024, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
If you want to yell at Joe for calling you, you personally, an idiot, because you, you personally follow MAGA, that's fine. But, he can fucking do it, no matter how hurt your feelings are. FIRST AMENDMENT BABY!
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Huh??
Who's yelling at Joey? I'm laughing at him.
Whose feelings are hurt? Certainly not mine.
Why would I want to deny anyone their 1st Amendment rights, let alone our senile, gaffe-prone POTUS?
I'm actually applauding! Ecstatically.
Go, Joey, go! Keep insulting the electorate! Just like Hillary did in 2016! You're the gift that keeps on giving!
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