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Originally Posted by Lolabrea01
I hear this a lot... "well she had a pimp because she doesn't know how to write ads, schedule, manage money, doesn't know how to rent hotel rooms" ... Sad!!!
I always wanted to run a hooker school! My curriculum would be as follows
* Hooker 101: how to spell, how to count, how to get a safety deposit box, how to do your taxes, money mgt, customer service.
* 102: how to screen, run ads, std and safety risks, (school of pistol marks how to shoot a gun lol)
* 103: here comes senior year. How to suck a dick, how to Fuck a dick lol!! How to properly post on eccie and not look like a tool
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great intro curriculum Lola.
obviously this is all from my perspective and experience, but i am NOT a provider nor do i play one on youtube. take it for what you think it's worth.
[note: "you" = generic you, not you Lola]
from what i've seen in ~17 yrs as a client, a provider w/ great organization, who cares about her client, who enjoys what she does and shows that in all aspects of a provider/client relationship goes a long way in impressing a client and retaining him. to me, it shows that you care about what you do and that you are not just in this for the money.
i would say a full educational program should include ...
* taking care of business [TCB] - how to advertise, manage appoint requests, screen clients, after appt followup. <== i'd say do this first. cos TCB is important to be able to get and retain clients.
* money management - what you included above, but just focused on money.
* location and ambience - imho, a nice incall helps to put a client in a sexy mood. a crappy incall does NOT. if your incall [apt, hotel, car, wherever] has trash, food, strewn about; used condoms visible; messy play area(s), messy bathroom, insufficient soaps/towels, area smells of smoke [of any kind] and/or alcohol, etc., then you might want to clean it up and make it inviting and relaxing.
* erotic & sexual skills - how to tease, how to entice, how to build up his ego [optional]. disrobing - mutual if possible [learn to ditch "why dont you get comfortable?" - my pet peeve]. performing foreplay, various activities, positions, techniques. handling ejaculations/orgasms whether early or late. post orgasmic behavior.
* post activities - talking, showering, snacks, etc.
* post session - followup and/or p411 OKs. if okay-ed, followup up pvt msgs or emails or other media.
in my view, just making an appt, doing it to it, and then showing him out doesnt cut it for being a great provider.
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Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson
...But I did agree in the second paragraph that either in one way or another, <<some>> ladies do need help. Even the sexual stuff. And you're right. ... you give a piece of yourself every time, and a lady has to be comfortable with that. A lot of women don't enjoy sex, but they know it's an easy way to make money. <<but for me, it's more than just about sex -pmd>> They don't enjoy their clients if they're not physically someone they would date. ...
<<Most>> Anybody could turn their ass up to make some money. This job requires emotionally secure women who have a grasp of the concept of the true meanings of intimacy, and has a clear understanding of her sexual nature. That way who they are isn't swayed by the illusion of the money or sex. And so her life outside of the job is not affected.
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i agree that a woman needs to have a clear understanding of her sexual nature and intimacy, but i've met some pretty good providers who werent emotionally secure women. it adds to but is not a requirement.
i've met many women over my years who were soley in it for the money. and it showed - negatively!!
"well, i really dont like sex. i'm just doing this so i can make enough money to <fileInTheBlank>..."
or constantly looking at the clock so she'll know when to show the guy out.
or just laying there or being so out of it [snockered, stoned, wasted] having the guy do all the work.
or just breezing thru town cos they know dallas has a lot of guys who will pay her for her time and have sex.
or starting a session and then 10, 20 or 30 mins into it coming up w/ some b.s. story for the guy to leave w/out having showing him a deliteful time [have to help sister move, roomie coming back, have to go to hospital to help relative, etc]
all those have happened to me. and while i've have many many more deliteful sessions, those stick out cos of how undeliteful they were, leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
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Originally Posted by Dharma
There is a forum on this site which is devoted to teaching all about this business. It's in one of the ladies areas.If you want to read it but don't see the forum, ask a mod. It's available to any provider who wants to learn from others experiences and it covers everything from advertising to how to handle difficult clients. ...
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Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers
Dharma and Tinman are correct. There is an absolute WEALTH of information on Eccie that would sincerely help anyone who was willing to take the time, and effort, to read and research.
There are always going to be ladies out there that will answer anything that you throw out there. I know this to be true.
... Anyway ... there is a TON of information out there if ladies will just do their due diligence, and that includes techniques, etc.
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If a woman doesn't really care one way or another, and isn't interested in reading and doing research, then having text out there isn't even an issue.
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i think this is what it boils down to - many of the younger women who enter this sub-culture only see the dollar signs and dont have a very good, if any idea of what all is involved in being a good, if not great provider/escort/etc.
this all reminds me of what Frank Langella said recently on The Charlie Rose show. he conducts master classes for acting students at various universities. he tells them three things.
1. Know your lines. ==> know your basics and memorize what you need to say and do.
2. Know what those lines mean ==> know [as best you can] what the author intended the play/show/movie to mean.
3. Say your lines like you mean it ==> dont just go thru them in a rote fashion, become the part, become the story, make people believe you are that role.
i counted recently - of all the women i've consulted with in my 17+ yrs [100-200 or so], less than 20 are still providers. sure, many moved on in their life, but many where in this sub-culture for 6 mos - 1 year. that tells me they were either a) after quick cash, b) got hassled/stalked out of here, or c) figured out they couldnt do this effectively, efficiently, and successfully. the best rose to the top.
but, bottom line, we are preaching to the choir. those women who could benefit from this knowledge prolly wont read this thread anyway.
and so it goes.... or cums, as the case may be.
so, for all you eccie women who have taken the time to learn how to be a great provider,
THANKS SO VERY MUCH!!!