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pussycat · 01-10-2019, 11:53 AM

The biggest contribution Trump has made is to show all Americans that they don't have to be afraid of political correctness and they can say the truth as they see it at work, in public, in the Universities, and wherever.

If you want to enforce the immigration laws it doesn't mean you're a racist, if you don't want a trans person in your kid's bathroom it doesn't mean you're a hater, and just because you date escorts doesn't mean you hate women and want to humiliate them.

Everyone on this board should be for Trump because every person on the Left who hates him also hates our hobby and want LE to shut it down, along with pornography, because it "humiliates women."

Old-T · 01-10-2019, 03:30 PM

What an overly simplistic view of things. No, not every Lib wants to shut this down--not even close to the truth. Yes, some LWWs do, but that is so far from "all Liberals" as to be laughable.

You should listen more carefully to the RWW Thumpers who think you (and I) are satin's spawn, that women need to get married and be subservient to their husbands in all things.

Open your eyes and be concerned about the nut jobs on both fringes if you care about this community.

Old-T · 01-10-2019, 03:30 PM

What an overly simplistic view of things. No, not every Lib wants to shut this down--not even close to the truth. Yes, some LWWs do, but that is so far from "all Liberals" as to be laughable.

You should listen more carefully to the RWW Thumpers who think you (and I) are satin's spawn, that women need to get married and be subservient to their husbands in all things.

Open your eyes and be concerned about the nut jobs on both fringes if you care about this community.

Old-T · 01-10-2019, 03:37 PM

Did I defend Obama?
No.

I see--condemn the one who lies about things in their personal life but support one who tells lies you want to hear even though they affect the whole country.

That makes a lot of nonsense.

SpeedRacerXXX · 01-10-2019, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pussycat

The biggest contribution Trump has made is to show all Americans that they don't have to be afraid of political correctness and they can say the truth as they see it at work, in public, in the Universities, and wherever.

If you want to enforce the immigration laws it doesn't mean you're a racist, if you don't want a trans person in your kid's bathroom it doesn't mean you're a hater, and just because you date escorts doesn't mean you hate women and want to humiliate them.

Everyone on this board should be for Trump because every person on the Left who hates him also hates our hobby and want LE to shut it down, along with pornography, because it "humiliates women."

Are you serious? No websites like ECCIE were shut down while Obama was in office. ECCIE and other websites like Backpage have either been shut down or forced to transform under Trump's watch.

SpeedRacerXXX · 01-10-2019, 05:21 PM

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Draft dodger serial liar? You mean W. Bush?

As for being a liar I'll say again the yarn by Barak Obama -

He said he had an uncle who liberated Auschwitz and later was so upset he went into his parents' attic after the war and didn't come down from there for seven years!

And that was not exceptional. Research it and you can see Obama was a pathological liar who fabricated and confabulated and never told the facts about anything.

But the press gave him a pass because he brought "hope and change you can believe in"

Obama did not lie when he said he had an uncle who helped liberate Auschwitz. He made a mistake in that the uncle helped liberate a different concentration camp, Ohrdruf, a subcamp of Buchenwald.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...not-auschwitz/

Trump was a draft dodger, like Clinton, in that he did everything within his power to avoid serving in the military.

supercold1 · 01-12-2019, 04:27 PM

It's funny. Whenever they say "Democrats are evil and lie, too," and you ask them "Okay, about what?", all they have is crazy batshit unfounded conspiratorial nonsense that they got from liars like Alex Jones

SpeedRacerXXX · 01-13-2019, 07:35 AM

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It's funny. Whenever they say "Democrats are evil and lie, too," and you ask them "Okay, about what?", all they have is crazy batshit unfounded conspiratorial nonsense that they got from liars like Alex Jones

Trump has made lying a new art form. His latest?

"President Trump denied that he ever promised Mexico would “write out a check” for his border wall."

The truth:

"Though he is often vague about how Mexico would foot the bill, Mr. Trump has offered occasional specifics, including compelling Mexico to make a one-time payment of $5 billion to $10 billion.

Before he officially declared his candidacy, Mr. Trump proposed to “deduct costs from Mexican foreign aid” in an April 2015 Twitter post."

"In an April 2016 memo, Trump’s campaign outlined the steps he could take to get Mexico to pay for the wall.

"It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," the memo said."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/jan/10/donald-trump/trump-claims-he-never-meant-mexico-would-write-che/

Austin Ellen · 01-13-2019, 11:15 AM

The media has brought lying to a new art form. The latest - Trump worked for the Russians. That is the straw that broke this camels back. That is not only absurd but they think the American public is stupid. They lie to fit their left agenda.

And all President's lie - jeeze, the left acts like this never happened before. Unreal.

Precious_b · 01-13-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

The media has brought lying to a new art form. The latest - Trump worked for the Russians. That is the straw that broke this camels back. That is not only absurd but they think the American public is stupid. They lie to fit their left agenda.

And all President's lie - jeeze, the left acts like this never happened before. Unreal.

Not necessarily. The legal team for one of Fearless Leaders buddies *REALLY* fucked up and supplied the dirty.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...eveals-1088049

SpeedRacerXXX · 01-13-2019, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

The media has brought lying to a new art form. The latest - Trump worked for the Russians. That is the straw that broke this camels back. That is not only absurd but they think the American public is stupid. They lie to fit their left agenda.

And all President's lie - jeeze, the left acts like this never happened before. Unreal.

It has happened before but NEVER to the extent that Trump has done it. You would be hard pressed to find lies that Obama or Bush told while in office. Occasionally they stretched the truth or maybe they did not predict the future correctly, as Obama did when he said under Obamacare people would be able to keep their doctors. But with Trump it is a daily occurrence. If he is not reading off of a teleprompter, word-for-word what has been written for him, it is likely he will at some point not tell the truth.

As for the report that Trump worked for the Russians. The media did NOT say that. The NY Times reported that the FBI launched an investigation into that.

Did the FBI launch an investigation? If yes, the media (NY Times) is not lying. If no, the NY Times lied. Obviously Trump denies that he worked for the Russians but he does not deny that the FBI looked into it. As of right now, the media has not been proven to have lied about it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...post-fbi-putin

Precious_b · 01-13-2019, 05:17 PM

Well, I hear Trumps' interpreters are going to be meething some people tomorrow about his private meeting with Putin.

Austin Ellen · 01-13-2019, 05:20 PM

The FBI looking into whether or not Trump worked for Russia is ludicrous. Now the dems are going to investigate and it's all going to turn into a clusterfuck. They don't want to work with Trump -they just want to tear him down. They are like rabid dogs. This is just going to tear America further apart, in my opinion. Hope everyone buckles up - it's going to get very,very ugly.

Precious_b · 01-13-2019, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

The FBI looking into whether or not Trump worked for Russia is ludicrous. Now the dems are going to investigate and it's all going to turn into a clusterfuck. They don't want to work with Trump -they just want to tear him down. They are like rabid dogs. This is just going to tear America further apart, in my opinion. Hope everyone buckles up - it's going to get very,very ugly.

So why does Manafort, Trumps' Campaign Chairman, share polling data with a person with ties to Russian Intelligence?
This is by accidental admission in the link I supplied above.
I am not saying that Trump "worked for Russia." But there is alot of other stuff being shaken from the tree that does NOT point away from him and Russia having dealings.

Said it before. Will say it again. Trump could have eliminated a high percentage of doubts about his ties (and those that are claimed manipulating him) if he would have just produced his tax records.

Since he like to take the path of misdirection, he isn't using it well since more attention is being drawn to him like the TP that stuck to his shoe.

Old-T · 01-13-2019, 10:18 PM

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The FBI looking into whether or not Trump worked for Russia is ludicrous.
Why is it ludicrous? Because you know all about him? Because he says he is innocent? Or because you WANT there to be nothing there? Somehow Trump is not the person whose word actually counts for much--he has been such a liar even about things that are blatant, that him saying "I didn't do anything wrong" means nothing.

Now the dems are going to investigate and it's all going to turn into a clusterfuck. They don't want to work with Trump -they just want to tear him down.
You mean like the REPs didn't want to work with Clinton or Obama? US politics has gotten to the point neither party cares about governing and reaching compromise. But when the REPs do it to a Dem president, the REP lemmings are fine with it. When the DEMs do it to a Rep president, the DEM lemmings are fine with it. They are both wrong, but you probably only see it Trump came in.

They are like rabid dogs. This is just going to tear America further apart, in my opinion.
Unlike what Trump has already done?

Hope everyone buckles up - it's going to get very, very ugly.

Sadly, that last comment of yours I agree with. I see little sanity or good intent in either party.