Eccie links in CL & BP ads

[ANONONE]

I am no big fan of BP and CL, but it really doesn't matter if you restrict linking.

People can get here very easily and see what some are calling sensitive material. . .

FOR EXAMPLE: I went to Google and typed in these keywords:

Tiffany Cums Reviews

The top three results were all direct links to this site:

http://www.google.com/search?q=tiffa...ient=firefox-a

[diud-diud]

Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums

You can see where the hits are coming from....if you post it as a rule, and a verified provider posts the link in her ad anyways, you can give her a warning...then a second time can cause her to loose her status....third time she could loose her reviews? Or have them locked temporarily?

Anyways....something for you to chew on.

The problem with this approach is it also penalizes members who don't do anything wrong. The gentleman that took his time to write the review is penalized by having his review locked, with no recourse, because a provider broke the rule. It penalizes the verified/registered providers because the girls that are not registered are free to link to reviews at will.

You consider the reviews a belonging to the provider, when most hobbyist consider them as belonging to the writer. Not to say I have a problem with a provider having a NRP. But I don't think someone else's misbehavior should have my review removed.

Though maybe things are hotter now than in the past as far as LE is concerned, but I found ASPD from a link from BP. I'm sure there are productive members of the board who found out about this board the same way.

Next of course you have to consider that any coincidental or casual benefit a review may be for a provider, or any of the same that causes harm, reviews were originally and for the most part are still for the benefit of the hobbyist. Period. I'm not trying to be an ass, but that is true.

I am not sure if ECCIE has the NRP available for a provider that doesn't advertise on the board like there was for ASPD but that is an option available if they do.

Bottom line is with reviews there are risks and rewards. You have to determine for your risk tolerance if having public reviews worth whatever risk you determine. You also have to do the same thing for membership on the board.

my .02

[ANONONE]

I am pretty sure the current policy is that if a provider insists on "no reviews" or "restricted reviews" they lose their right to advertise and have a Showcase. Hopefully a staff member will clarify those protocols. I doubt they will change them given that this is a site dedicated in name and philosophy to the exchange of information.

As to who the review belongs to, tradition in the hobby is that it belongs to the writer. Of course the reviews I write are pure fantasy and written for entertainment purposes only.

[Tiffany Cums]

Originally Posted by ANONONE

I am no big fan of BP and CL, but it really doesn't matter if you restrict linking.

People can get here very easily and see what some are calling sensitive material. . .

FOR EXAMPLE: I went to Google and typed in these keywords:

Tiffany Cums Reviews

The top three results were all direct links to this site:

http://www.google.com/search?q=tiffa...ient=firefox-a

You totally missed my point baby, it went right on by, didn't it?

There are many men who look at the BP/CL ads to 'release their stress' or just out of curiousty. They really don't have any intentions of calling a lady. They see Eccie mentioned again, and again, and decided to click on one of the links to see where it goes.....

I know what comes up under my own name, duh! I think every provider has Googled their own name before. What in the world does this have to do with what I was suggesting??? NOTHING!

A horny man that doesn't know about our society is not going to sit at his computer late at night and think to his self "Hmmm...I wonder what I will find if I google a name....hmmm...maybe Tiffany? Yeah...and I'll use a last name like fucks....or sucks....oh wait, CUMS!

Ok, maybe that was a bit much, but hopefully I made my point. Gentlemen who are serious about finding ladies, and google it, and find it, bravo!

Some sicko lurky luo clicking on an Eccie link from a very public arena that many use to 'get off?' No thank you!

[Tiffany Cums]

Originally Posted by diud-diud

my .02

And a great .02 it is!
I honestly do not have a clue on what can be done....perhaps there is a way to prevent this site from being linked too?

You brought up some very good points, thank you. This whole thing needs to be 'chewed upon'.

[Guest121212]

Originally Posted by diud-diud

I am not sure if ECCIE has the NRP available for a provider that doesn't advertise on the board like there was for ASPD but that is an option available if they do.

Yes, ECCIE has a NRP for verified providers. It was / is my understanding that the NRP needs to be elected at the time of registration (application) for verified provider status. The rule is the same as it was on ASPD; if you elect to have an NRP you may not advertise on ECCIE. However, in addition (as ANONONE points out), you are not allowed to create and maintain a Showcase. Signature line, linking, avatar, etc., rules are the same as for any other verified provider. Although the local moderators do a fine job in vetting reviews, it is the responsibility of the provider that has the NRP to "police" the site for any review and then petition for removal via the RTM function.

Advising a client that you have an NRP is the responsible thing to do and goes a long way toward ensuring their are no reviews to "pull" and that simple communication also avoids alienating a hobbyist that has taken the time and effort to write a review.

As has been discussed before, a NRP is a double-edged sword and although it may be appropriate for an established provider in certain circumstances, it may not be the best choice for establishing yourself in the endeavor.

In my expereince, a NRP only works if there is excellent service provided every time. It isn't something to "hide" behind as a NRP will not apply to an alert (prevent one if warranted).

Kisses,

- Jackie

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums

You totally missed my point baby, it went right on by, didn't it?

There are many men who look at the BP/CL ads to 'release their stress' or just out of curiousty. They really don't have any intentions of calling a lady. They see Eccie mentioned again, and again, and decided to click on one of the links to see where it goes.....

I know what comes up under my own name, duh! I think every provider has Googled their own name before. What in the world does this have to do with what I was suggesting??? NOTHING!

A horny man that doesn't know about our society is not going to sit at his computer late at night and think to his self "Hmmm...I wonder what I will find if I google a name....hmmm...maybe Tiffany? Yeah...and I'll use a last name like fucks....or sucks....oh wait, CUMS!

Ok, maybe that was a bit much, but hopefully I made my point. Gentlemen who are serious about finding ladies, and google it, and find it, bravo!

Some sicko lurky luo clicking on an Eccie link from a very public arena that many use to 'get off?' No thank you!

No, I understood your point, I just found it not to be very valid. The reality is you can not have it both ways. You can't be involved in this little hobby of our these days, on either side, and have any REAL expectation of privacy. If you think it is bad now, just wait around for five years as the information age marches on.

The best you can do is get better at subterfuge and misdirection in order to protect your real identity, assuming you are comfortable with compartmentalizing your UTR sexual persona from your actual one that at first glance seems to conform with societal mores, if that is even viable. I don't know about you folks, but I am finding those lines seem to blur with each passing week if I don't take deliberate steps to protect myself from the tendency.

[Tiffany Cums]

Ok....of course when one posts their pics and info, and allow reviews, that privacy is not going to be possible....so be it. But I am talking about cutting down on the public postings of Eccie links. CL/BP has been all over the news, and now there was a recent remark made about Eccie on Fox news. We don't need anymore attention.

This was the main point, and still remains the main point of this post.

[PSD]

LE is everywhere. Has nothing to do with this. Any thought otherwise is silly and shortsighted and will only lead to mistakes.

So...dropping that whole discussion...

I watched a local news video from OKC regarding a recent bust. They clearly pulled up a BP ad and zoomed in on the ECCIE links. Not good.

The higher profile you take in this hobby, the more the risks involved, whether you're a hobbyist, provider, forum mod, website owner, doesn't matter.

You want lesser risks, lay low and stay off everyone's radar. Period. Will Tiff's idea further that? IMO yes. I have seen countless reports on local news of busts that originated on BP and CL. Countless.

How many from here? I've never seen one.

I may have overlooked a post in this thread, but Jackie is arguably one of the most intelligent people on this site and has an amazing amount of thoughtful insight when ever she speaks. What are you thoughts on this aspect, Jackie? Worthwhile?

[PSD]

BTW, the mods are eerily quiet on this one. Did St Chris take the crew to DR again to enjoy the low-priced lovelies?

[Tiffany Cums]

Once CL started appearing on the news, it seems as though everyone was taking turns busting ladies off of CL...and once BP made its debut, now you hear it all the time....
Now Eccie is on the news...it's a matter of time for them to start thinking of ways to bust ladies on here....

Of course LE was already here...but it was kept on the Down Low and the general public was not aware of us. Well....now they are....and LE has planted themselves here waiting on the media to catch wind so they can start reacting.

So for those of you who are too closed minded to understand...well...I'm sorry. I wish there was a better way to explain it to you.

[Guest022712-3]

Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums

So for those of you who are too closed minded to understand...well...I'm sorry. I wish there was a better way to explain it to you.

Wait a tic-- I was somewhat with you until this. So, if people do not agree with your viewpoint then they are closed minded? Isn't that a bit closed minded of you in and of itself??

Keep in mind that this is a discussion forum-- not an agreement forum. There will always be those who agree and those who disagree with your viewpoint. That does not make them right or wrong or closed or open minded.

Why is "People are People" running through my head right now??

[Tiffany Cums]

Originally Posted by DecemberLove

Wait a tic-- I was somewhat with you until this. So, if people do not agree with your viewpoint then they are closed minded? Isn't that a bit closed minded of you in and of itself??

Keep in mind that this is a discussion forum-- not an agreement forum. There will always be those who agree and those who disagree with your viewpoint. That does not make them right or wrong or closed or open minded.

Why is "People are People" running through my head right now??

Everyone has their own opinion, and that's great. This is an open discussion forum, for discussing differant ideas. I just wish this thread would stay on topic. I have repeated myself many times, and the comments that were made didn't have anything to do with the topic.

[SneakyCancer]

like stated earlier....even if my reviews were printed out and case tried to be made.....prove it? it is not against the law to say you had sex with someone for money unless you have proof. Guys lie all the time anyway...to say they got laid....Reasonable Doubt....!!!! Slam dunk Dismissed case...

As far as the ladies is concerned, she can say the same thing. So unless you are caught in the act, you can not be brought up on any charge. Last time I check, we still have the right to "Freedom of Speech".... and these erotic hypotheses are great.

@ DianaDeepThroats....i agree whole heartedly with your comments though. Darn shame we spend more time watching for sex profession than criminals or trying to fix broken methods in LE. Tax payer dollars at waste while some horny dude is reading reviews all day. This is why the few that do go out, cannot resist the temptation and cross the line with providers. Case and point, the girl who was busted 2 weeks ago in HTown and took pics with camera phone. CASE DISMISSED again.

[diud-diud]

Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums

So for those of you who are too closed minded to understand...well...I'm sorry. I wish there was a better way to explain it to you.

And this started off as such an interesting a civil discussion.

I don't think anyone is closed minded. I just don't think most people think the sky is falling. LE goes after CL and BP girls because they are as the expression goes, low hanging fruit. Meaning it is the easiest busts to make( next to street walkers.) And they get a lot of publicity for cleaning up crime. You screen and do your due diligence, you are just as safe from those kind of stings today as you were before the news report, stings or links from bp/cl.

And the other thing about people following links to here to get off, i think you are just thinking way too hard about that one. If I'm a perv getting off to pictures and follow a link, if there are not pictures I'm hitting the back button. This place is boring if you are not into the hobby. For one all you can do is read the open forums and look at ads. You can see the reviews but not the content, so no jack-off material there. To see that you have to pay or review. Bam contributing member. I guess someone could browse the ads, but for most part if you aren't buying or considering buying, then why bother. No disrespect to the lovely ladies of Eccie, but there is much better free porn than what I see in the ads. But really why would it matter to most providers if some perv from BP/CL that you will never see is releasing himself to your pictures vs some perv from eccie that you will never see doing likewise?

DIUD