Trump to select Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead HHS

[txdot-guy]

The mission of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is to enhance the health and well-being of all Americans, by providing for effective health and human services and by fostering sound, sustained advances in the sciences underlying medicine, public health, and social services.

How can someone who doesn’t believe in the efficacy of vaccines possibly do that?

[VitaMan]

Possibly because he has a claymation head ?

[eyecu2]

IT's sad that Not ONE of DJTs nominee's meets a non-partisan view of acceptability. Disruption is one tool to make changes, but there are also conclusions and results driven appointments. For positive changes etc. I don't think he ever hired qualified ppl. Trump has only ever hired 'trusted confidants' vs qualified candidates. A serious issue for a guy who has a conspiracy crisis complex, and suffers from paranoia from doing so many underhanded and shady things. He doesn't know of another way to do things. He has to claim false conclusions and allege others of wrong doing, because that's what he does. He would beg, borrow and steal to get his way, especially out of jeopardy. It's been his thing. It's his schtick. These will end in the same epically bad way that this first administration did.

Kennedy is a moron who doesn't believe in science, but does know that eating road kills causes bad things to happen- cause that actually DID happen to him. He has that warbling voice from some other shit he's done;

“I can’t think of a darker day for public health and science itself than the election of Donald Trump and the nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as secretary of health,” says Lawrence Gostin, director of Georgetown University’s O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law.

“To say that RFK Jr. is unqualified is a considerable understatement,” he continues. “The minimum qualification for being the head of the Department of Health and Human Services is fidelity to science and scientific evidence, and he spent his entire career fomenting distrust in public health and undermining science at every step of the way.”

[farmstud60]

RFK Jr makes some good points, but if you think the current CDC is telling you the truth you are a bigger problem than person Trump has nominated for his cabinet.


The thing with vaccines is that they give a bunch to young kids starting school. Some diseases like measles, polio, or whooping cough it is a good thing and are necessary. But they have added mumps, chicken pox and a whole bunch of others that the risk from the vaccines is about the same as severe complications form the disease in young children. Giving too many vaccines in a short time period may cause more issues with immune systems as the body gets too many signals something is wrong.

[Yssup Rider]

I think he's a Marxist, stud.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[TravelingHere]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Kennedy is a moron who doesn't believe in science

This is the main issue with your argument.
One shouldn't "believe in science", it's not a religion.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by TravelingHere

This is the main issue with your argument.
One shouldn't "believe in science", it's not a religion.

I believe that eyecu2 is referring specifically to the scientific method.

The scientific method is an empirical method for acquiring knowledge that has been referred to while doing science since at least the 17th century. The scientific method involves careful observation coupled with rigorous scepticism, because cognitive assumptions can distort the interpretation of the observation. Scientific inquiry includes creating a testable hypothesis through inductive reasoning, testing it through experiments and statistical analysis, and adjusting or discarding the hypothesis based on the results.

The scientific method pulled us out of the dark ages into the age of enlightenment. It’s not a religion and should absolutely be believed.

Scepticism over results is part of the scientific method but sceptics of all kinds ignore the second half of the requirement. Inductive reasoning and statistical analysis.

RFK Jr and many like him feel that things are wrong but have not done the testing, inductive reasoning and statistical analysis to change their feelings into facts. But for some reason people still BELIEVE other wise. Why is anyone’s guess.

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I believe that eyecu2 is referring specifically to the scientific method.

The scientific method is an empirical method for acquiring knowledge that has been referred to while doing science since at least the 17th century. The scientific method involves careful observation coupled with rigorous scepticism, because cognitive assumptions can distort the interpretation of the observation. Scientific inquiry includes creating a testable hypothesis through inductive reasoning, testing it through experiments and statistical analysis, and adjusting or discarding the hypothesis based on the results.

The scientific method pulled us out of the dark ages into the age of enlightenment. It’s not a religion and should absolutely be believed.

Scepticism over results is part of the scientific method but sceptics of all kinds ignore the second half of the requirement. Inductive reasoning and statistical analysis.

RFK Jr and many like him feel that things are wrong but have not done the testing, inductive reasoning and statistical analysis to change their feelings into facts. But for some reason people still BELIEVE other wise. Why is anyone’s guess.

Not true, anyone that doesn't believe the CDC which has questionable data itself is called a science denier.

[TravelingHere]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I believe that eyecu2 is referring specifically to the scientific method.

The scientific method is an empirical method for acquiring knowledge that has been referred to while doing science since at least the 17th century. The scientific method involves careful observation coupled with rigorous scepticism, because cognitive assumptions can distort the interpretation of the observation. Scientific inquiry includes creating a testable hypothesis through inductive reasoning, testing it through experiments and statistical analysis, and adjusting or discarding the hypothesis based on the results.

The scientific method pulled us out of the dark ages into the age of enlightenment. It’s not a religion and should absolutely be believed.

Scepticism over results is part of the scientific method but sceptics of all kinds ignore the second half of the requirement. Inductive reasoning and statistical analysis.

RFK Jr and many like him feel that things are wrong but have not done the testing, inductive reasoning and statistical analysis to change their feelings into facts. But for some reason people still BELIEVE other wise. Why is anyone’s guess.

The scientific method is an approach. The consequence is that science undergoes systematic re/evaluation.
The issue is when regulatory capture and entrenched interests subvert the pure scientific method.

We were ad nauseum reminded to "trust the science" in the events of the past couple of years, only to see the skeptics vindicated.
Is it any surprise that the pigs feeding off that mantra got rich in that time?

We were told processed foods like breakfast cereal were better that eggs, that lobotomies were good treatment, that mercury is a good treatment for syphilis, that Thalidomide is safe and effective, that oxycodone can't be abused, that was all settled science.
Add to that forgery, look at Alzheimer's research controversy.
There are plenty of conflicting motivations in science. If you propound the popular thing, you get grants, and get published. If you don't you get shunned.
RFKJ is a corrective move in this regard.

What does the guy do? He poses questions and thoughtfully addresses them. He doesn't have all the answers but there is plenty of research to draw on.

If he's such a kook let's have at it. Rather than smearing him let's open up that "Overton window" and discuss.

[txdot-guy]

RFK Jr. spent years stoking fear and mistrust of vaccines. These people were hurt by his work

When 12-year-old Braden Fahey collapsed during football practice and died, it was just the beginning of his parents’ nightmare.

Deep in their grief a few months later, Gina and Padrig Fahey received news that shocked them to their core: A favorite photo of their beloved son was plastered on the cover of a book that falsely argues COVID-19 vaccines caused a spike of sudden deaths among healthy young people.

The book, called “Cause Unknown,” was co-published by an anti-vaccine group led by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President John F. Kennedy’s nephew, who is now running for president. Kennedy wrote the foreword and promoted the book, tweeting that it details data showing “ COVID shots are a crime against humanity.”

The Faheys couldn’t understand how Braden’s face appeared on the book’s cover, or why his name appeared inside it.

Braden never received the vaccine. His death in August 2022 was due to a malformed blood vessel in his brain. No one ever contacted them to ask about their son’s death, or for permission to use the photo. No one asked to confirm the date of his death — which the book misdated by a year. When the Faheys and residents of their town in California tried to contact the publisher and author to get Braden and his picture taken out of the book, no one responded.

“We reached out in every way possible,” Gina Fahey told The Associated Press in an emotional interview. “We waited months and months to hear back, and nothing.”

How could a member of one of the most influential political dynasties in American history be involved in such a shoddy, irresponsible project, the Faheys wondered?

Read the full article:
https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kenne...c26e8494f0a16a

[Yssup Rider]

Let’s not forget that the job also includes managing a very large agency consisting of professionals with whose views he doesn’t agree that manages the health of virtually every soul in the US.

It’s OK to be a skeptic, to raise questions and to propose alternatives, even if your position changes every other day. Even if you ascribe to every conspiracy that comes down the pike.

But RFKJ should be doing that on a soapbox, not as the guy in charge of HHS.

Plus, worms ate his brain.