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Old 09-20-2012, 01:14 AM   #46
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typical kneejerk rightwing reaction ... fuk the facts, lets make up shit ... he was raped he was yada yada yada ..

but rest assured its Obies fault there wasnt any first aid on the scene or an ambulance to get him to the Dr ..
EXACTLY!

JoeBlows and COF are always lying about shit to try to make the President look bad. The only people who look bad are you fairy tale spinners!
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:58 AM   #47
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Is there anyone posting in this thread who criticized Bush for not connecting the dots in anticipation of the attack on 911? If so,

Did you vote for Obaminable in 2008?

Are you voting for him in 2012?

Those are "yes" or "no" questions.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:01 AM   #48
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We don't have to make stuff up about Obama to make him look bad. We just tell the truth about him, and that makes him look bad.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:16 AM   #49
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Here's a hint for you Essence. The Libyan government warned the U.S. that there was the possibility of trouble for U.S. personnel in Libya on or about 9/11. Odumbo, et al, knew which country. Odumbo, et al, knew the significance of the date. And Odumbo, et al, knew the targets. Odumbo, et al, didn't provide the security necessary. EOS.
IBH, we don't disagree with the facts. Libya warned there may be heightened risk on anniversary of 9/11. Administration realised that, since warning came from Libya, they may be talking about Libya. Wonderful. Apple pie tastes good.

Now, you don't need warnings to realise this. There was heightened tension in London on the anniversary of the July bombings, esp because of the Olympics.

My point is that the warnings were not specific enough, they were not specific to benghazi, they had no specific knowledge of a particular group who was planning the attack, they had no specific knowledge of what weapons would be used.

If London had been shut down every time there was a report of a planned IRA attack, then nothing would have ever moved.

What happened was that the IRA used a special password which gave credibility to warnings, so the security knew they had to treat it seriously.

Now, we can argue whether the overall security arrangements at Benghazi were adequate, specific threat or no specific threat, and it does seem that there wasn't much security. But I don't know what the general policy is on these kinds of non embassy locations.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:29 AM   #50
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IBH, we don't disagree with the facts. Libya warned there may be heightened risk on anniversary of 9/11. Administration realised that, since warning came from Libya, they may be talking about Libya. Wonderful. Apple pie tastes good.

Now, you don't need warnings to realise this. There was heightened tension in London on the anniversary of the July bombings, esp because of the Olympics.


My point is that the warnings were not specific enough, they were not specific to benghazi, they had no specific knowledge of a particular group who was planning the attack, they had no specific knowledge of what weapons would be used.


If London had been shut down every time there was a report of a planned IRA attack, then nothing would have ever moved.
No one is talking about shutting down London. Hell, London's population surpasses the population in all of Libya! There is a difference. All that would have been necessary was to provide extra security and precautions for U.S. personnel assigned to Libya. 9/11 has become a particularly notorious date.

What happened was that the IRA used a special password which gave credibility to warnings, so the security knew they had to treat it seriously.


Now, we can argue whether the overall security arrangements at Benghazi were adequate, specific threat or no specific threat, and it does seem that there wasn't much security. But I don't know what the general policy is on these kinds of non embassy locations.


WASHINGTON, Sept 19 (Reuters) - The assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last week in which four Americans died was a "terrorist attack" that may have had an al Qaeda connection, a top U.S. counterterrorism official told Congress on Wednesday.

Rocket-propelled grenades and mortars struck the consulate on Sept. 11, the anniversary of the 2001 attacks on the United States. U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans died.

"They were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy," Matthew Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in response to a question at a Senate hearing.

Olsen said whether the attack was planned for Sept. 11 was under investigation, but the information so far indicated it was "an opportunistic attack" that "began and evolved, and escalated over several hours."
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