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Old 02-26-2013, 03:20 PM   #46
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Wow, how original.

Now, back to the freedom of speech felony thing. I'm lookin' forward to this one .

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Google it. It's reported on Fox News.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:07 PM   #48
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I'm driving and the only link I have goes to my FB.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:31 PM   #49
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Google it.
Oh, i did! Why do you think i'm so giddy?

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/oba...e-free-speech/

There's an old saying Autumn, i'm sure you've heard it. "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". And here's another - "If it sounds too ridiculous to be true, it probably isn't." I didn't even have to bother to google it before my initial bit of sarcasm - which could have left me with a bit of egg on my face if your claim was even remotely legitimate.

You didn't believe this nonsense because it was true. And you didn't believe it because it sounded like it might be true. No, you believed it simply because you wanted to.

Might i suggest you re-watch your Newsroom video. And pay better attention to the deeper meaning of what he's actually saying this time.

For what it's worth:

Here's the FOX News "report". You'd think "Judge" Napolitano would know better. Or maybe his being a Judge isn't why he's there.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:00 PM   #50
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Might i suggest you re-watch your Newsroom video. And pay better attention to the deeper meaning of what he's actually saying this time.
I think Doove would be singing a different tune if Bush had passed the exact same legislation.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:06 PM   #51
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I think Doove would be singing a different tune if Bush had passed the exact same legislation.
Now that's awesome!

"So, to recap: The law isn’t new; it merely amends existing law. The law doesn’t impose new penalties, although the ACLU is concerned that it may make it easier for the government to prove its case against someone who knowingly enters a restricted area or causes a disturbance in areas under Secret Service protection. The law doesn’t criminalize free speech any more than it did when Bush revised the same law in 2006." (emphasis mine)

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Old 02-26-2013, 06:28 PM   #53
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The 3:00 minute mark:

"We are able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed.......by great men, men who were revered. First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one."

If this thread hasn't proven to be the ultimate paragon of irony....
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However you choose to spin this, it boils down to one thing. This is an example of yet another law being passed stripping us of our freedom.

Maybe it is your dream to live in Orwell's 1984. I do not share that dream with you.
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This has just been passed into law by Obama.
The law was sponsored by a Republican, Rep. Thomas Rooney of Florida. In fact, the bill has been around for years. Rooney first introduced it in 2009 and spoke about it on the House floor in 2010. The current Congress passed it overwhelmingly — by “unanimous consent” in the Senate, and with only three House members voting against it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #57
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However you choose to spin this, it boils down to one thing. This is an example of yet another law being passed stripping us of our freedom.
I can't break into your house and protest. I can't stand in the road and block your trying to get to work to protest. So i'm not sure the law really strips anything.

Either way, i'm sure it doesn't quite have the same "kick" with you, finding out it was actually Nixon who gave it to us. (Did you hear that part, Cowboy?)

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Maybe it is your dream to live in Orwell's 1984. I do not share that dream with you.
Says the girl who watches FOX News and posts patently false information because of it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:04 PM   #58
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For example, now Freedom of Speech is a Felony where Secret Service is present. This has just been passed into law by Obama.
By the way, there's nothing in the law that makes speech a felony.

In case it wasn't already clear on just how ridiculous the claim was.
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I think Doove would be singing a different tune if Bush had passed the exact same legislation.
Doubtful, Doove is intelligent enough to at least do some basic research to find out the facts. And sure enough, He did a simple google search to find that the legislation was a minor tweak. I guess that's too much trouble for you. Unless your a complete idiot, Anything with FOXNews as a source should be vigorously fact checked.
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So this is why the president can show up a ship building yard and tell lies. Secret service is around, so any comment that challenges the president will result in arrest? Best is the pravda press that let's him lie, televises it, and provides no challenge to the presidents statement?
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