Times are Hard

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Marshall

I like this one better Doofus.....this is a "lightly moderated" forum and I get to dump the "nice" Marshall.....methinks I'm gonna force-feed you a whole lotta shit-sandwiches! You're gonna get fat! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Key word being "shit".

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

if you read my post, could have saved some bandwith.I dont give a FUCK!! about the numbers in the post, I aleady know the character of the first lady and the trip says it all.I dont care if it cost $5.00.

If you don't care that it makes you look like a fool, then i think i speak for those of us on the sane side of the aisle when i say we don't care either.

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

.

well, the post did recieve 1 "like" so thats one more person that has a sense of humor and you have a negative sense of humor!!

Who are you, Michael Scott now?

Yah, banned from a LIAR and you were all too happy to join in with the lie.Jacks OBL thread showed exactly who both you are and you sir are a LIAR!!

Oh? How so?

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

wouldnt expect you to get my humor,

Is that what it is?

you have none.

I know you are, but what am i?!?!

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by Doove

If you don't care that it makes you look like a fool,!

yes, I dont care..

[Doove]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

yes, I dont care..

So you admit it makes you look like a fool.

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by Doove

So you admit it makes you look like a fool.

If Michelle Obama giving me the absolute scabies makes me look like a fool, than absolutely unequivocally, put it on the record.

[Randall Creed]

I was talking to a guy today and the conversation drifted into how the filthy mcnasty rich hide their gazillions and don't pay a dime in taxes (or relatively nothing). While I didn't understand much of exactly what he was saying, it was enough to KNOW what he was saying, ya know. They basically have the loophole system down pat, and just rub it in the face of the IRS and anyone who knows what they're doing. Imagine a mofo saying, "Yeah, I made $900 million last year. Here's....$1,000 in taxes for ya." That's all you can get from them because of loopholes.

Shit, they drop more than that out of their pocket on a weekend in the Bahamas.

And to hear an assgape defend them. Well, they earned it. It's their money. Muhfukka...you CAN'T EARN that kind of money!! You physically CANNOT do it. Just using rounded off math, for you to 'earn' $1 million...if you worked EVERY DAMN DAY of an entire year, I mean 365 days of the year, you would have to have a job that pays you $115 an hour. Every hour of the whole year. No sleeping, no eating, no sex, no watching pornos, no internet, nothing. The whole year. Doing the 8-hour workday version, you still need to make $345 an hour to get to $1 million for the year.

That's just ONE million. One LOUSY million.

Ok, so one of you rich 'defenders' (you wealthy WK'ing mofos), explain to me how a mofo can 'earn' say, $200 million in a year.

I dare ya! I double dare ya, muthafucka!! How do you 'earn' that kind of money?

Some of them don't even pay that lousy $1,000 I gave in the example. GE, for example, made $100B (B as in billion). Didn't pay a dime in taxes. Oh, but you mad at welfare families who get $300 a month. That ain't shit. That's $75 a week. That's F-150 gas money.

These rich mofos are just RRRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPIIIIIINNNG GG the system, and by default, you, me, and all those 'lazy po' people' you hate. They're assraping the system with a herpeed, hep'd, and syphillis'd dick, raw dog, and is nutting deep inside. They laugh all the way to the bank with the misguided anger.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Marshall

Hey doofus, conservatives just want the Federal government to limit themselves to the enumerated powers granted them in the Constitution....also, we want all moneys for entitlements illegally taken from us returned....it's that simple doofus.....

You stupid fucs think it smart to start two wars and cut taxes , then you wonder why there is a deficit.

Seriously , did you learn to think like that in the military, if so we should shut that branch of government down. Save us a shit pile. Total waste of money if that is as smart as they are teach'em.

I do not think the framers of the Constitution had dumb asses like you in mind when they wrote it.

Do you really think I give a flying fuc what some ignorant ass cry baby thinks?

Do you think it smart to start two wars and cut taxes?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

if you read my post, could have saved some bandwith.I dont give a FUCK!! about the numbers in the post, I aleady know the character of the first lady and the trip says it all.I dont care if it cost $5.00.

Really, you know her? You have met her.

I think you are a liar.

Answer me this

Do you think it smart to start two wars and cut taxes?

Simple question really. If you say yes, then really why the fuc are you bitching about the deficit. If you say no, then really wtf are you bitching about Michelle Obama trip taking NOW. The time to bitch was 7 years ago. When these stupid ass Bush tax cuts were proposed.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Under President Obama, government will spend more on welfare in a single year than President George W. Bush spent on the war in Iraq during his entire presidency. .

You are so misguided it is not even funny. You do realize if the trickle down economic theory had worked so god damn well as you would not have so many people on welfare. Hate to burst your bubble there bud.



In 1996, under the Bill Clinton administration, Congress passed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, which gave control of the welfare system back to the states. Because welfare is no longer under the control of the federal government, there are basic requirements the states need to meet with regards to welfare services. Still, most states offer basic assistance, such as health care, food stamps, child care assistance, unemployment, cash aid, and housing assistance. After reforms, which President Clinton said would "end welfare as we know it,"[20] amounts from the federal government were given out in a flat rate per state based on population.[24] Each state must meet certain criteria to ensure recipients are being encouraged to work themselves out of welfare. The new program is called Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF).[23] It encourages states to require some sort of employment search in exchange for providing funds to individuals, and imposes a five-year lifetime limit on cash assistance.[20][23][25] The bill restricts welfare from most legal immigrants and increased financial assistance for child care.[25] The federal government also maintains an emergency $2 billion TANF fund to assist states that may have rising unemployment.[23]

[amusemeant]

What bullshit.

1) We have NEVER spent more on welfare than we do on the military. I would challenge you to find one single instance of this in any budget for any year that our country has been in existence. You wont find it. What a dumbass.

2) If you are business owner, you start small and work your way up and as you go you hire people whose help you NEED to keep your business going and make it a success. If you have good employees who make you money and make your business bigger and better, you might say that those employees are making you rich, rather than saying that you are 'giving' them something or 'giving' their families something. They are WORKING for you and EARNING every penny they get to take to their families. If you close your business, or if you sell it, they will continue to WORK for their money and make someone else rich ---- until the day when they see their folly and start working for themselves to make themselves rich instead of making you 'not rich' and giving you the free time to go and vote and bitch about how 'not rich' you are while you read Wall Street and HBJ and The Economist and invest the profits they have made for you with the sweat of their brows into some fucking funds so you can then sit around and threaten their job security and talk shit about everyone. Fuck you!!!! Without you these people might have had to get a clue and find out how to hustle for themselves and ended up doing better than you have done. They certainly haven't been given a damned thing they didn't earn and I'm sure have had scant if any favors done for them by you, their boss. Whatever. Of course, I still want your money too bring it on over but I'll name my own terms and you'll never write me any memos reprimanding me for any behavior I exhibit lmao

3) so what if it costs the first lady more than the average bear to take a trip? If it wasn't for lunatic weasels like the ones here and their babbling bullshit that becomes ammunition for really crazy lunatics, she could walk around freely. She has to have all that extra shit around her because of gun crazy weirdos who would like to shoot her and then bitch about the cost of medical care to have the bullets removed.

Now I do agree that it's the really super rich americans we need to focus on bringing to task with regards to the tax burden and lowering the deficit. That almost goes without saying - but I guess not huh?

Times are definitely hard. I hate to think that people today need to really see a good depression like the one we had before to bring some compassion to their frontal lobe. I know that we have starving kids all over the place here in the US but maybe if we really had a lot of people dying and starving, some of these folks would finally have to take a hard look at what it actually means. How many people here would really like to see a single mom with starving babies sitting on every street corner while taking a town car to the office? Would you still have the balls to say that you don't think your taxes should go to help her and those kids? If the answer is yes then I think we have lost our humanity without question, and we no longer deserve to populate this planet.

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

funny thread Driller..FUCK the sycophants!!LOL!!

the thread was funny to me , regardless the money.

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

sooo angry that someone would actually question an out of touch Michelle Obama, just because..OOhhh PPPPOOOORRRRR MICHELLE OO BUM BUM!!

see quote 1 and add another LOL!!LOL!!

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

if you read my post, could have saved some bandwith.I dont give a FUCK!! about the numbers in the post, I aleady know the character of the first lady and the trip says it all.I dont care if it cost $5.00.

was never about the deficit to me.Your the one thats predictably assuming it. thus my use of LOLS!!LOL!^!

Originally Posted by WTF

Really, you know her? You have met her.

I think you are a liar.

Answer me this

Do you think it smart to start two wars and cut taxes?

Simple question really. If you say yes, then really why the fuc are you bitching about the deficit. If you say no, then really wtf are you bitching about Michelle Obama trip taking NOW. The time to bitch was 7 years ago. When these stupid ass Bush tax cuts were proposed.

keep repeating the same thing over and over and over and maybe someday it will come true !LOL!Whats funny is that your reapeating your talking points like a robot and I never commented on her hypocrisy being related to the deficit, YOU are saying thats what I meant.I already went through this discussion with the other hypocrite, now I have to do it all over again.LOL!Not surprised I saw it coming in quote 1.You two have BOTH been unusually slow throughout this.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

You two have BOTH been unusually slow throughout this.

That's only because your grammar is so craptastic that it takes awhile to decipher what it is you're trying to say.

Perhaps you should spend a little more time doing your homework Jonny.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by WTF

You are so misguided it is not even funny. You do realize if the trickle down economic theory had worked so god damn well as you would not have so many people on welfare. Hate to burst your bubble there bud.

And WTF, you are NOT the one eyed man.

Originally Posted by amusemeant

What bullshit.

1) We have NEVER spent more on welfare than we do on the military. I would challenge you to find one single instance of this in any budget for any year that our country has been in existence. You wont find it. What a dumbass.

Under President Obama, government will spend more on welfare in a single year than President George W. Bush spent on the war in Iraq during his entire presidency. According to the Congressional Research Service, the cost of the Iraq war through the end of the Bush Administration was around $622 billion. By contrast, annual federal and state means-tested welfare spending will reach $888 billion in FY 2010. Federal welfare spending alone will equal $697 billion in that year. . . .

Most of Obama’s increases in welfare spending are permanent expansions of the welfare state, not temporary increases in response to the current recession. According to the long-term spending plans set forth in Obama’s FY 2010 budget, combined federal and state spending will not drop significantly after the recession ends. In fact, by 2014, welfare spending is likely to equal $1 trillion per year. . . .

Federal and State Welfare Spending

The federal government has played the predominant role in designing and financing government-provided welfare since the 1930s. Of the $714.1 billion spent in FY 2008, $522.3 billion (73 percent) was federal expenditures, and $191.6 billion (27 percent) was state expenditures. Most state spending ($150.7 billion) occurs in a single program, Medicaid. If Medicaid is excluded from the spending count, nearly nine-tenths of the remaining means-tested expenditures comes from federal funds.

Moreover, as noted, nearly all state welfare expenditures are matching contributions to federal programs. These state fiscal contributions to federal programs could be considered a “welfare tax” that the federal government imposes on the states.

Conclusion

Government spends considerable sums on means-tested welfare or aid to the poor. In FY 2008, federal and state governments spent $714 billion providing cash, food, housing, medical care, and various social services to poor andlower-income Americans. One dollar in seven in total government spending is now devoted to welfare assistance.

Means-tested welfare aid has increased steadily over time. When the War on Poverty began in the mid-1960s, 1.2 percent of GDP was devoted to welfare. Today, the figure is 5 percent.

Means-tested welfare spending nearly rivals the combined cost of Social Security and Medicare. For every dollar spent on those two programs, 70 cents is spent on means-tested welfare.

Since the beginning of the War on Poverty, welfare spending has grown more rapidly than Social Security and Medicare. While the large costs associated with those two programs are widely recognized, the cost of means-tested welfare is poorly understood. In part, this is because Social Security and Medicare appear as two simple line items or budget functions in every federal budget document. By contrast, means-tested welfare spending is spread through 13 government departments and agencies, 17 budget functions, and 71 separate programs. In addition, a large chunk of welfare spending consists of required state contributions to federal welfare programs, and this state spending never appears in any federal budget document. . . .

President Obama’s budget plans call for adding some $9 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. His goal of spreading the wealth today will be financed by placing larger and larger financial burdens on future generations. . . .

Rector, Robert, Katherine Bradley, and Rachel Sheffield. “Obama to Spend $10.3 Trillion on Welfare: Uncovering the Full Cost of Means-Tested Welfare or Aid to the Poor.” Heritage Special Report SR-67. 16 September 2009.

[Marshall]

Originally Posted by WTF

You stupid fucs think it smart to start two wars and cut taxes , then you wonder why there is a deficit.

Seriously , did you learn to think like that in the military, if so we should shut that branch of government down. Save us a shit pile. Total waste of money if that is as smart as they are teach'em.

I do not think the framers of the Constitution had dumb asses like you in mind when they wrote it.

Do you really think I give a flying fuc what some ignorant ass cry baby thinks?

Do you think it smart to start two wars and cut taxes?

you stupid turd, I'm renaming you 2face because of your love for Ron Paul and Odumbo.......how can anyone support those 2 who are on opposite extremes of the political spectrum.....you must be attracted to them because you're attracted to the cult of their personalities....that makes you a groupie! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! How can anyone take you seriously? You say such stupid things but don't realize how stupid they are.....HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

I read and study substantially more than you.....your opinions are based on your feelings, not facts......when people provide you with facts, you ignore the facts if you disagree with them......

I've posted the facts that tax cuts have always raised tax revenue......you need to go back and review when tax cuts were implemented and look at the tax revenue figures......you will find that information in my old posts......

you need to stop giving Barry BBBJTCCIMWS............

[Marshall]

Did Clinton veto welfare reform 2 or 3 times before the conservative congress forced him to accept it? Welfare reform moved 3 million of 5 million families off welfare......it was a conservative victory....THANK YOU NEWT! Newt's a patriot........

Not many people know this, but Odumbo undid welfare reform with the stimulus legislation......

[Marshall]

Originally Posted by amusemeant

What bullshit.

1) We have NEVER spent more on welfare than we do on the military. I would challenge you to find one single instance of this in any budget for any year that our country has been in existence. You wont find it. What a dumbass.

2) If you are business owner, you start small and work your way up and as you go you hire people whose help you NEED to keep your business going and make it a success. If you have good employees who make you money and make your business bigger and better, you might say that those employees are making you rich, rather than saying that you are 'giving' them something or 'giving' their families something. They are WORKING for you and EARNING every penny they get to take to their families. If you close your business, or if you sell it, they will continue to WORK for their money and make someone else rich ---- until the day when they see their folly and start working for themselves to make themselves rich instead of making you 'not rich' and giving you the free time to go and vote and bitch about how 'not rich' you are while you read Wall Street and HBJ and The Economist and invest the profits they have made for you with the sweat of their brows into some fucking funds so you can then sit around and threaten their job security and talk shit about everyone. Fuck you!!!! Without you these people might have had to get a clue and find out how to hustle for themselves and ended up doing better than you have done. They certainly haven't been given a damned thing they didn't earn and I'm sure have had scant if any favors done for them by you, their boss. Whatever. Of course, I still want your money too bring it on over but I'll name my own terms and you'll never write me any memos reprimanding me for any behavior I exhibit lmao

3) so what if it costs the first lady more than the average bear to take a trip? If it wasn't for lunatic weasels like the ones here and their babbling bullshit that becomes ammunition for really crazy lunatics, she could walk around freely. She has to have all that extra shit around her because of gun crazy weirdos who would like to shoot her and then bitch about the cost of medical care to have the bullets removed.

Now I do agree that it's the really super rich americans we need to focus on bringing to task with regards to the tax burden and lowering the deficit. That almost goes without saying - but I guess not huh?

Times are definitely hard. I hate to think that people today need to really see a good depression like the one we had before to bring some compassion to their frontal lobe. I know that we have starving kids all over the place here in the US but maybe if we really had a lot of people dying and starving, some of these folks would finally have to take a hard look at what it actually means. How many people here would really like to see a single mom with starving babies sitting on every street corner while taking a town car to the office? Would you still have the balls to say that you don't think your taxes should go to help her and those kids? If the answer is yes then I think we have lost our humanity without question, and we no longer deserve to populate this planet.

You post explains perfectly why your current profession is more appropriate for you than economist.....do you know what a book is?