Why did Obama win?

[CJ7]

enforce the immigration laws on the books. PERIOD

keeping the kids here was the right thing to do

[Yssup Rider]

it's simple ...

OBAMA WON BECAUSE YOU TEABAGGING ASSHOLES COULDN'T GET OUT THE MONGER VOTE!

[matchingmole]

http://www.msm.com/ Obama took MSM...Mitt dinnit

[theaustinescorts]

Youth voters and minorities turned out and swamped older white ones.

This is what happened in 2008, and it's the future from now on.

We'll never again have demographics like those which elected Reagan or Bush.

The hip hop generation is all that matters now. To get elected you have to appear on the View, shoot hoops, and hang with Jay-Z. Nevermind if you're really a chain smoker as long as you keep your smoking hidden in the closet every night. Just pretend that you're cool, and you support gay marriage, and you'll win.

Say goodbye to the land of the free and the home of the brave.

The American experiment was always deeply flawed, but now it's over.

[JD Barleycorn]

Pretty good answers except for Whatzup. He has to stay after class and clean erasers.

Okay Romney lost and Obama won... I did note a couple of things that are a matter of perception; Romney did disavow Akin and demanded that he withdraw from the race. That was part of public knowledge up here.

Changing demographics... I have heard that a lot today. I can go back about 20 years when I met with a group of republicans in Platte County. I saw nothing but white people that were far better dressed than me. I asked someone about outreach to minorities. Particularly the Vietnamese and Cambodian community of which there are many. I got the strangest look and someone wanted to know why? That was the last time I met with them. I believe there is a misconception among some of you. The republican party (of which I am not a member) does not try to attract minorities but they have a set of values that you can believe in whether you are black, white, brown, yellow, male or female. The message does not seem to be getting out there. If the GOP wanted to they could field an all minority and/or female team to run for office. You've seen them, they exist. Rubio, Cain, Angle, Love, Rice, etc.

I noticed that no one mentioned Sandy except one person. What I didn't see was what Obama did up there to help. Bush was in NO in five days and Obama has not been in New York City yet.

I give credit (blame?) to a corrupt media. From hiding stories to carrying Obama's water and free air time the media did it's best to push, pull, drag, and carry this guy across the finish line.

Another thing is that the youth are strangely ignorant of events. The term partial birth abortion came up in class the other day. A young lady asked what it was and the group that brought it up finally said that they didn't know what it was. Sounds incredible but true. A room full of college students in an advanced class and they didn't know that. Asking some questions indicates that they get their news from Colbert, Stewart, Leno, etc. They have no curiousity. They take in knowledge like baby birds. If it is not spoon fed to them, they don't know. The future of the conservative movement is in the classroom.

With a couple of exceptions (it is a serious charge to take credit for someone else's words) you have all done very good. I didn't know you had it in you.

[BigLouie]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

When you don't post your source, you are tacitly claiming the words as your own. Idiot.

I find it interesting that you show absolutely no interest in discussing why Romney lost and instead quibble over sources. And in this part:

Originally Posted by BigLouie
Since you asked I'll give it a shot but first I have to comment that most of the posters on here have not got a friggin' clue as to why Obama won and Romney lost.

The reason is all demographics. Romney captured the largest percentage of white male voters ever recorded, he lost because he ran out of them. For Hispanic voters Obama captured 75% of their votes while Romney could only muster 23%. The Republican party chose to ignore findings that a large percentage of Hispanics know or are related to someone here in the country illegally. When the Republican party started to wage war on illegal Hispanics that basically lost the election.

The Republican party catered to white males and totally ignored the fact that the US is now extremely diverse with a very large population of other cultures, religions and races. By limiting their appeal to rich, white males they sealed their fate. If you don't believe me go look it up. Google it if you like and then come back and try to dispute it.

These are my own words and thoughts yet you claim without proof that I copied and pasted. Idiot.

Let's see if you have the intellect to discuss why Romney lost the election.

[icuminpeace]

One answer - the fast growing voting block did not like Romney. People did not vote for Obama, they voted against the GOP, again.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

You could not be more wrong. Here are some thoughts from one observer.

"The Republican Party has to decide: Do they want to take this issue off the table? Or do they want to be a whites-only party that will make it impossible to compete?" Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, which advocates for immigration reform, said Wednesday.

Sharry predicted that immigration reform "will quickly become the top legislative priority after fiscal and budget issues" next year.

"The election was a game-changer," he said, "and the Republicans will see coming to the table as a political imperative."

Rep. Luis Gutierrez delivered a similar message in the wake of the election. Warning that that "the road to the White House goes through Latino neighborhoods," the Illinois Democrat said Romney's shift to the right on immigration during the GOP primaries buried his chances of winning the presidency.

"Mitt Romney and the Republicans drank the anti-immigrant Kool-Aid during the primaries," he said Wednesday in a statement, "and they never recovered."

"The second thing I’m confident we’ll get done next year is immigration reform. And since this is off the record, I will just be very blunt," Obama said during an off-the-record interview that later became public. "Should I win a second term, a big reason I will win a second term is because the Republican nominee and the Republican Party have so alienated the fastest-growing demographic group in the country, the Latino community. And this is a relatively new phenomenon."

The president seems to have hit the nail on the head. Exit polls indicated that Hispanic voters favored Obama this year by a whopping 40 points, 69 percent to 29 percent — an increase of 4 points over his advantage among the demographic four years ago. And while white turnout fell this year as a percentage of total voters, Hispanic turnout ticked up, from 9 to 10 percent.

The changing demographics have prompted a number of prominent conservatives — including former President George W. Bush, anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush — to warn Republicans to soften their hard line on immigration or risk a long-term backlash from Latino voters at the polls each cycle.

It's advice that Republican congressional leaders have so far ignored. Indeed, when President Bush championed comprehensive immigration reforms in 2007, it was shot down by conservative Republicans who opposed the inclusion of a pathway to legalization for those in the country illegally — a notion critics call "amnesty."

More recently, a filibuster by Senate Republicans killed the House-passed DREAM Act, which would provide legal status to high-achieving illegal immigrant students brought to the country as children.

During the GOP primary, Romney vowed to veto the DREAM Act and promoted tougher enforcement of illegal immigrants, a move designed to distinguish himself from several of his opponents — notably former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga) and Texas Gov. Rick Perry — who advocated more leniency.

After the primaries, Romney adopted a more centrist immigration position, and his campaign adopted a 38 percent target for Hispanic voters. But advocates say the damage was done.

"Romney's lurch to the right really destroyed his chances," Sharry said. "He made a tactical decision that was terrible strategy. It branded him with the fastest-growing group of voters as anti-immigrant and anti-Latino.

"If he'd won 38 percent of the Latino vote," Sharry added, "he'd be president."

The Dimocrat Party is perpetuating institutional fraud when it "claims" to represent the everyday American working wo/man while simultaneously backing an open door immigration program. Those two positions are irreconcilable and only truly ignorant people fail to acknowledge that fact . . . and those ignorant people, like you, keep voting Dimocrat!

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Like you said that's ONE observer.

But you also made some assumptions. I never said the GOP shouldn't change it immigration stance and could rely jsut on a bad economy. Although frankly, that MIGHT be enough.

I'm not in favor of throwing illegal immigrants who have been here for years out of the country. And especially not their children.

I AM in favor of combatting future illegal immigration. I do not care to see the US have 400 million people in it. Do you? We already have enough pollution and crowded big cities. we also have a large American underclass that cannot find jobs. Flooding the labor market with cheap illegals does nothing to help them.

We need better border security for starters. But beyond that, we can greatly reduce the influx of illegal immigrants by penalizing companies that hire them. We don't have to deport anyone if they don't come here to begin with because they cannot get work. This includes fining small businesses that employ illegals to house clean or cut the grass. Grant amnesty to anyone here more than, say, 4 or 5 years and allow businesses to hire them. But the rest get cut off.

+1

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Pretty good answers except for Whatzup. He has to stay after class and clean erasers.

Okay Romney lost and Obama won... I did note a couple of things that are a matter of perception; Romney did disavow Akin and demanded that he withdraw from the race. That was part of public knowledge up here.

Changing demographics... I have heard that a lot today. I can go back about 20 years when I met with a group of republicans in Platte County. I saw nothing but white people that were far better dressed than me. I asked someone about outreach to minorities. Particularly the Vietnamese and Cambodian community of which there are many. I got the strangest look and someone wanted to know why? That was the last time I met with them. I believe there is a misconception among some of you. The republican party (of which I am not a member) does not try to attract minorities but they have a set of values that you can believe in whether you are black, white, brown, yellow, male or female. The message does not seem to be getting out there. If the GOP wanted to they could field an all minority and/or female team to run for office. You've seen them, they exist. Rubio, Cain, Angle, Love, Rice, etc.

I noticed that no one mentioned Sandy except one person. What I didn't see was what Obama did up there to help. Bush was in NO in five days and Obama has not been in New York City yet.

I give credit (blame?) to a corrupt media. From hiding stories to carrying Obama's water and free air time the media did it's best to push, pull, drag, and carry this guy across the finish line.

Another thing is that the youth are strangely ignorant of events. The term partial birth abortion came up in class the other day. A young lady asked what it was and the group that brought it up finally said that they didn't know what it was. Sounds incredible but true. A room full of college students in an advanced class and they didn't know that. Asking some questions indicates that they get their news from Colbert, Stewart, Leno, etc. They have no curiousity. They take in knowledge like baby birds. If it is not spoon fed to them, they don't know. The future of the conservative movement is in the classroom.

With a couple of exceptions (it is a serious charge to take credit for someone else's words) you have all done very good. I didn't know you had it in you.

If you would watch "Jaywalking" on Leno where he has asked questions of students it will scare you shitless.what are you all teaching?

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by BigLouie

Let's see if you have the intellect to discuss why Romney lost the election.

I've already done that. I'm just pointing out you are a fraud and a liar. And I don't think I need a lecture on intellect from someone who cuts and pastes, and then tries to pass off the quotes as his own.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by ekim008

If you would watch "Jaywalking" on Leno where he has asked questions of students it will scare you shitless.what are you all teaching?

JD teaches in Kansas: a Red State. Leno interviews Californians: California is a Blue State.

[markroxny]

[I B Hankering]

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[Yssup Rider]

I suspect were going to hear this kind of horribly stupid shit from IBCrying for weeks to come.

DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR NOMINATIONS WILL SOON BE OPEN. NOW THAT HE WON'T BE GETTING THAT JOB ROMNEY PROMISED HIM ON DAY ONE, MAYBE HE WANTS TO HOLD ON TO HIS TITLE.

Face it, boy, you lost. America would never have elected Romney. Never, never,never. DO THE FUCKING MATH and blame whomever you want. But start with the Republican Party.


AND SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I've already done that. I'm just pointing out you are a fraud and a liar. And I don't think I need a lecture on intellect from someone who cuts and pastes, and then tries to pass off the quotes as his own.

You calling anyone a fraud and a liar is at its very foundation a fraudulent lie.

I didn't see you this worried when Gary Johnson wouldn't share a fatty with you.