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Old 10-24-2017, 08:06 AM   #46
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:47 AM   #47
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How do you know that Iran has enough weapons grade U235 at 20% concentration right now to make an Atomic Bomb? Are you over in the Iran lab doing the enrichment process yourself, or did you see some one from the USA had over to Iran some nuclear rods?

Didn't you retire from being a chemist? Maybe you should brush up on nuclear fission, you don't seem to understand how it works.
I never stated they had enough weapons grade Uranium 235 to make a Nuclear Weapon. What they do have is a reactor. Since they have a working reactor in their possession they have the capabilities to enrich U-238 to U-235 which is the fissile isotope of Uranium which is required to produce a nuclear weapon. We must also consider Plutonium 239 which is made from U-238. Plutonium 239 is created in Nuclear Reactors present in the fuel rods. Plutonium 239 can undergo Nuclear fission and in the process emits Alpha Radiation which is much more ionizing form of radiation than Beta or Gamma radiation. Although Iran says they want a Nuclear program only for producing energy there is a rumor among our Military that Iran already has a Nuclear weapon. If that's the case it's not a matter of if, but when they'll use it.

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Old 10-24-2017, 12:21 PM   #48
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Now that the muslim-in-chief is out of office, let's discuss this.

The general public just want's bottom line and fair news. A lot of this U-235 or U-238 doesn't mean shit to them. The general public sees where uranium is sold to Russia, our enemies since the cold war days, and they're pissed off about it.

The same goes when the muslim-in-chief gives money to Iran, illegally laundered. So what they see is some sort of fucking pussy wanna be CIC bribing Iran not to build nukes.

Giving 20% of uranium to Russia is out and out wrong, as is asking Iran to please not build nukes for a multi-billion dollar bride.

Maybe some of you don't like President Trump because he's rough around the edges, he can't get off twitter, and he's an arrogant asshole, however I don't believe he'll play that shit giving Iran and Russia gifts they shouldn't have.
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Old 10-24-2017, 03:27 PM   #49
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Now that the muslim-in-chief is out of office, let's discuss this.

The general public just want's bottom line and fair news. A lot of this U-235 or U-238 doesn't mean shit to them. The general public sees where uranium is sold to Russia, our enemies since the cold war days, and they're pissed off about it.

The same goes when the muslim-in-chief gives money to Iran, illegally laundered. So what they see is some sort of fucking pussy wanna be CIC bribing Iran not to build nukes.

Giving 20% of uranium to Russia is out and out wrong, as is asking Iran to please not build nukes for a multi-billion dollar bride.

Maybe some of you don't like President Trump because he's rough around the edges, he can't get off twitter, and he's an arrogant asshole, however I don't believe he'll play that shit giving Iran and Russia gifts they shouldn't have.
You acct like the USA was the only one signing the agreement.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:31 PM   #50
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You acct like the USA was the only one signing the agreement.
This is twice you've implied this. This time I'll address it.

Fact: I don't trust Russia, so their treaties with us doesn't mean shit.
Fact: I don't trust Iran, so their treaties with us doesn't mean shit.

Fact: I don't give a damn if either one of the trusts us or not.

That should clear up any misconceptions.

Lastly, knowing these countries would just as soon blow us back to the stone age, are you honestly naive enough to believe them. What do you want to do, have President Trump announce to the country that he believes some country isn't going to bomb us, and all of a sudden we have 6 inbound nuclear warheads heading to Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, and our air bases in Alaska. Opps, sorry to the millions who died and their families, but we signed a treaty. Sorry, but I'm not naive, so my trust doesn't really exist.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:53 PM   #51
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This is twice you've implied this. This time I'll address it.

Fact: I don't trust Russia, so their treaties with us doesn't mean shit.
Fact: I don't trust Iran, so their treaties with us doesn't mean shit.

Fact: I don't give a damn if either one of the trusts us or not.

That should clear up any misconceptions.

Lastly, knowing these countries would just as soon blow us back to the stone age, are you honestly naive enough to believe them. What do you want to do, have President Trump announce to the country that he believes some country isn't going to bomb us, and all of a sudden we have 6 inbound nuclear warheads heading to Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, and our air bases in Alaska. Opps, sorry to the millions who died and their families, but we signed a treaty. Sorry, but I'm not naive, so my trust doesn't really exist.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Ira...reached-408871

Why not mention the others?
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:53 PM   #52
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Old 10-24-2017, 05:45 PM   #53
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Post all the links you want to post, I stand by my posts.

I'm out for the USA first and don't give a shit about Iran, nor am I naive enough to fully trust them.

So you're approving that hussein obama illegally laundered billions of dollars through Europe?

Anybody who trusts the Iranians are dumber than I thought.
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Untrue, flighty. FDR's man Harry Hopkins gave the Soviets weapons grade uranium under the provisions of the Lend Lease Act, flighty. Furthermore, flighty, I said it was the "U.S." that created weapons grade uranium in six years -- not the "U.S.S.R."
We are talking/writing about two different things. I posted Posts #33 and #43 that deal with the post #30 which was posted by Iffy. Of course the USA had weapons grade U235 in 1945 that is how the atomic bombs worked. Post #30 is something totally different.
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I never stated they had enough weapons grade Uranium 235 to make a Nuclear Weapon. What they do have is a reactor. Since they have a working reactor in their possession they have the capabilities to enrich U-238 to U-235 which is the fissile isotope of Uranium which is required to produce a nuclear weapon.
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You are incorrect about the enrichment. Uranium is enriched with a centrifuge not with a reactor. The reactor is used once the Uranium has been enriched. If you want an Atomic Bomb the concentration of U235 must be at 20%. The enrichment process takes years not days. Post #30 in this link below has graphs that show where Iran was how much enriched uranium it had and how many centrifuges it had that could enrich to a 20% U235 concentration. By agreeing to the deal, Iran at least 10 years away from having enough U235 for a Atomic Bomb. What enriched Uranium Iran had, had to be diluted and the most efficient centrifuges were deactivated as part of the agreement. Trump has already signed off that Iran is in compliance.

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...9080&highligh t=
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Old 10-25-2017, 07:23 AM   #56
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Post all the links you want to post, I stand by my posts.

I'm out for the USA first and don't give a shit about Iran, nor am I naive enough to fully trust them.

So you're approving that hussein obama illegally laundered billions of dollars through Europe?

Anybody who trusts the Iranians are dumber than I thought.
If you can't prove your comments, it is just an opinion piece.
You will go to any length to defend Trumps blunders.
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You are incorrect about the enrichment. Uranium is enriched with a centrifuge not with a reactor. The reactor is used once the Uranium has been enriched. If you want an Atomic Bomb the concentration of U235 must be at 20%. The enrichment process takes years not days. Post #30 in this link below has graphs that show where Iran was how much enriched uranium it had and how many centrifuges it had that could enrich to a 20% U235 concentration. By agreeing to the deal, Iran at least 10 years away from having enough U235 for a Atomic Bomb. What enriched Uranium Iran had, had to be diluted and the most efficient centrifuges were deactivated as part of the agreement. Trump has already signed off that Iran is in compliance.

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...9080&highligh t=
That pretty much goes without saying. My original point was Iran has Nuclear Capabilities and can produce a weapon from P-239 without having to rely on enriched U-235. Below is a pretty good article pertaining to that.

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http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...ment-16205935/
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Old 10-25-2017, 04:42 PM   #58
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CNN has their finger on the pulse of America.

Hillary in a landslide...
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If you can't prove your comments, it is just an opinion piece.
You will go to any length to defend Trumps blunders.
Is it true you have your head so far up hussein obamas ass that he come to a stop while walking, and you broke your nose?
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Is it true you have your head so far up hussein obamas ass that he come to a stop while walking, and you broke your nose?
eeehbuhhhrrr is a Alinsky Boy, He likes to blame us for what his communist side is doing. We are all aware of it but I makes him feel good...

I like to call it "eeehbuhhrrrisms"

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