Provider Wants A Loan

[jan-w]

There are some topics we're forbidden to discuss here but I saw an episode of "Intervention" last week where they showed a very cute young lady, working out of
her family's house in a nice neighborhood who, as soon as she got her money from providing, scampered to her "friend". Needless to say, she never saved a penny and was always broke.

It's not a nice thought, but some ladies do have expensive tastes for some things and they can never get enough customers, hence why some would try to wheedle money out of the guys.

[ilsjs]

Did it once, twice .... Never expected to get back the whole sum, but knowing that it helped someone for REALl ... WORTH IT.

Originally Posted by Old-T

It is NOT a loan, though she probably honestly means it. If you want to help her out just understand it is a GIFT, not a loan. Yes, you may actually get repaid, but do not expect it. And I am not saying it because she is a provider, but because of her financial situation. People who have trouble paying their rent or fixing their car often have such problems month after month, at least for an extended while. She may optimisticly believe everything will break right in the next month, but the odds are seriously against that.

I have helped a number of ladies who asked for loans, but in every case it was someone I liked enough and trusted would do the right things with the money that I gave it to them. A few repaid it, most did not. But as a gift it was far less likely to damage a friendship.

The other option if this is someone you see frequently is to arrange it as a pre-pay. I have not done that often but it has also usually worked out as planned, but not always. (Sadly, the one lady I trusted the most to keep her end of the arrangement was the one that didn't. I don't know if that was the reason things fell apart between us, or if there was something else.)

[Hemi 61]

Haven't read all this, but, I see 2 different ladies that I will "loan" money to. Might be a little different than what was mentioned, and they always make it right. I think it depends on the lady.

[Rachelina]

I just feel that a guy like this around her has something to do with her asking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDUt57X5CBw

[Jon Colden]

It doesn't happen all the time, and not every escort is going to do it, but it's likely to happen at some point, there's little doubt about that.

When it does, I think the important thing to remember is that the confusion stems from the use of the word "loan." That's a euphemism. It's HIGHLY unlikely that the "loan" will ever be repaid, either in cash or in services. But if that doesn't matter as much to you as helping a friend, making a gift, or being generous, then don't worry about it.

Just bear in mind that you're extremely unlikely to ever be repaid. And consider yourself lucky that you haven't had to confront this situation ever before.

Her need is probably real, and she'll probably be grateful, but put the idea of ever seeing that money ever again out of your head.

[LynnT]

Bottom line it was unprofessional of her. Its not your problem she doesnt have money. Maybe she needs to be taught how to fish instead of given a "gift"..

Also this talk about ladies sending texts and emails trying to round up business.. What? ew. Run a damn ad, run a special, something, dont bug gents to come visit..

Id sell my ass for $100 before Id ask any client for a "loan".

[ilsjs]

I encouraged the lady 'd rather look out for help from guy(s) she can trust than doing something stupid, unsafe or degrade herself... you could find find some, may not too many.... but at least you should try.
We are all human, sometimes got in trouble not by designed, everyone should deserve a second chance, I always think never push anyone against the wall... this is just me, it might come back to hurt me, I gladdy accepted it. But so far so good. No one hurted me badfly, I love women... God made women to be loved ... lol

LynnT,
Not every guy in this hobby is bad... there are many exceptions... trust me. Bad guys are minority, we all love women one way or other....

Originally Posted by LynnT

Bottom line it was unprofessional of her. Its not your problem she doesnt have money. Maybe she needs to be taught how to fish instead of given a "gift"..

Also this talk about ladies sending texts and emails trying to round up business.. What? ew. Run a damn ad, run a special, something, dont bug gents to come visit..

Id sell my ass for $100 before Id ask any client for a "loan".

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by LynnT

Bottom line it was unprofessional of her. Its not your problem she doesnt have money. Maybe she needs to be taught how to fish instead of given a "gift"..

Also this talk about ladies sending texts and emails trying to round up business.. What? ew. Run a damn ad, run a special, something, dont bug gents to come visit..

Id sell my ass for $100 before Id ask any client for a "loan".

Wheres the back of that line? LOL

[rogerdodger]

Originally Posted by LVSFR

Yeah, go ahead give the provider a loan. If they would ever make a movie about your loan, the title's already been taken-"Gone with the Wind"!

i don;t lend money to anyone. if i have it, don;t need it and you can convince me to give it up - it's a gift. i have one family member that i resist beating everytime i see him = 15 years and he still hasn;t mentioned the loan ... got the money and hopes if he never talks about it it goes away. i told his mom ... and wrote it off. its my fault.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by LynnT

Bottom line it was unprofessional of her. Its not your problem she doesnt have money. Maybe she needs to be taught how to fish instead of given a "gift"..

Lynn, I am glad you have never had to accept a loan/gift. But it happens, often to single moms. This business doesn't come with health insurance and kids are not always cooperative with how and when they get ill.

Most the money I have given has been for illness--children or the lady herself--or for tuition. In almost every case I have known the lady quite well and I know the real circumstances behind the financial problem.

And to learning to fish, that is what I consider tuition money to be, if she has done her homework and has her act together.

I think you may be a bit too harsh on some. (On others, no, you are absolutely correct.)

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Lynn, I am glad you have never had to accept a loan/gift. But it happens, often to single moms. This business doesn't come with health insurance and kids are not always cooperative with how and when they get ill.

Most the money I have given has been for illness--children or the lady herself--or for tuition. In almost every case I have known the lady quite well and I know the real circumstances behind the financial problem.

And to learning to fish, that is what I consider tuition money to be, if she has done her homework and has her act together.

I think you may be a bit too harsh on some. (On others, no, you are absolutely correct.)

It's your money and I say give to away if you want. You just need to know thats what you are doing, giving it away and not loaning it.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by burkalini

It's your money and I say give to away if you want. You just need to know thats what you are doing, giving it away and not loaning it.

Agree 100%, which is what I said in my first post.

[LynnT]

Originally Posted by In1impmiss

LynnT,
Not every guy in this hobby is bad... there are many exceptions... trust me. Bad guys are minority, we all love women one way or other....

I know there are good and bad eggs.. good and bad eggs has nothing to do with a lady not being able to TCB. Giving the money will only enable the problem of why she needs it. A provider should never be broke unless she is foolish with money.. drugs, bad spending, etc. All these things are not the clients problems they are hers. Maybe being unable to pay rent will make her learn a lesson.. not feeding the problem so she keeps doing it.

If this girl had to ask and just couldn't tell her landlord she'd be late this month.. well what does that tell ya? She always pays her rent late.. why enable her??

Run a freaking special, there is no excuse, we can do that in this business. Really this girl couldnt run a 3 day special and make $500-$700??????

[LynnT]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Lynn, I am glad you have never had to accept a loan/gift. But it happens, often to single moms. This business doesn't come with health insurance and kids are not always cooperative with how and when they get ill.

Most the money I have given has been for illness--children or the lady herself--or for tuition. In almost every case I have known the lady quite well and I know the real circumstances behind the financial problem.

And to learning to fish, that is what I consider tuition money to be, if she has done her homework and has her act together.

I think you may be a bit too harsh on some. (On others, no, you are absolutely correct.)

In this business, No. I have the capabilities to make lots of money fast.. any lady does SEX SELLS! before I started this yes and even then I just went with out instead of asking for money. Its not like I havent messed up or needed money a time or two in my life, I make mistakes just like everyone else..

If you are a single mom, you make enough money to get a health plan for your kids.. That would of been top on my list. There are enough private plans to pay monthly. Tons of programs.. (some are crap lol) If I had to I would do this job just to have a good plan for my children. And really.. student loan money is due once a month or once, twice, three times a year.. A lady cant make a monthly payment in this job? Or knowing shes going to start school and start saving, working extra hours etc?

I also get you may get ill or the kids and you cant work for days.. but if you are on time with your rent all the time one month isnt going to hurt.. you even get grace periods with student loan payments.. If you pay the bills on the regular one time is no biggie.

To me learning to fish is managing your own money to pay your own bills, not going to class.. Just because you go to school doesnt mean a thing.. Learn to Manage your money.

Im sorry to be harsh but in this business the money is too good, there is no excuse to be broke.. kids, tuition, etc.. I do get some months/weeks may be tighter than others because kids are expensive and shit happens but.. a broke provider has problems your loan is not going to fix kids or not..


I'll say it again, Id sell my arse for $100 before I ever asked a client for money to pay my rent..

[LynnT]

Originally Posted by Still Looking

Wheres the back of that line? LOL

It starts in Texas. ha ha