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04-07-2014, 11:55 AM
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new law, new rules, before is irrelevant ....like you
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04-07-2014, 11:55 AM
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Epic Disaster
Let's all back up and take a high level view of what has been accomplished. Somewhere between 3 and 5 million previously uninsured have been coerced into the market. 3 million more Medicaid enrollees have been rounded up. So that's 6 million people off of charity medical care, 0.2% of our population. Insurance policy quality has been degraded in the private marketplace with narrow networks and imperious, silly mandates that infuriate old people and those with religious principles. Perhaps this qualifies as a success at the Post Office or Amtrak. So that's the benefit. What's the cost? That will be a few years to tally, but the creaking, groaning mass of bureaucracy is moving to begin taxing business insurance, medical devices to pay for this mess. Who knows what the final cost will be. HHS will continue to release only data that benefits its political narrative. The twisted propaganda coming from the White House will continue to portray ACA as a success.
This is what happens when we elect a community organizer with little experience doing anything save looking and acting cool. Couple this with labor unions, liberal progressives, environmental extremists, all financed by Wall Street that wants the party to keep going, and you get this mess. Remember that Barry's top 2008 political contributor was Goldman-Sachs. Remove Wall Street financing and the prejudiced black vote for Barry and we get back to centrist governance that has at least a passing interest in solving problems, not spending not scoring political victories to benefit few.
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04-07-2014, 12:05 PM
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Let's all back up and take a high level view of what has been accomplished. Somewhere between 3 and 5 million previously uninsured have been coerced into the market. 3 million more Medicaid enrollees have been rounded up. So that's 6 million people off of charity medical care, 0.2% of our population. Insurance policy quality has been degraded in the private marketplace with narrow networks and imperious, silly mandates that infuriate old people and those with religious principles. Perhaps this qualifies as a success at the Post Office or Amtrak. So that's the benefit. What's the cost? That will be a few years to tally, but the creaking, groaning mass of bureaucracy is moving to begin taxing business insurance, medical devices to pay for this mess. Who knows what the final cost will be. HHS will continue to release only data that benefits its political narrative. The twisted propaganda coming from the White House will continue to portray ACA as a success.
This is what happens when we elect a community organizer with little experience doing anything save looking and acting cool. Couple this with labor unions, liberal progressives, environmental extremists, all financed by Wall Street that wants the party to keep going, and you get this mess. Remember that Barry's top 2008 political contributor was Goldman-Sachs. Remove Wall Street financing and the prejudiced black vote for Barry and we get back to centrist governance that has at least a passing interest in solving problems, not spending not scoring political victories to benefit few.
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you back up, the rest of the country is moving forward ... have a nice day
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04-07-2014, 12:13 PM
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... the rest of the country is moving forward ...
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It just seems like it, when you are sliding backwards as you do.
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04-07-2014, 12:15 PM
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new law, new rules, before is irrelevant ....like you
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Same can be said for voter ID laws and your irrelevant objections to said laws, CBJ7.
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04-07-2014, 12:28 PM
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not one single person is making any of you punk ass bitches buy a healthcare policy ... if you don't like it, don't fucking play, pay the fine and stfu, you have THAT option ... leave the rest of the people in the country alone, not one single one of you can do a fucking thing about the law except bitch about it and your broken record bullshit is OLD, just like you.
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04-07-2014, 12:45 PM
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not one single person is making any of you punk ass bitches buy a healthcare policy ... if you don't like it, don't fucking play, pay the fine and stfu, you have THAT option ... leave the rest of the people in the country alone, not one single one of you can do a fucking thing about the law except bitch about it and your broken record bullshit is OLD, just like you.
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Once again you lie, CBJ7. The fine is coercion -- "persuading someone to do something by using force or threat", CBJ7. BTW, CBJ7, Odumbo has already "changed" the law 38 times; so your POV that nothing can be done to change Odumbocare -- it's no longer the law Congress passed -- sucks swamp water.
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04-07-2014, 02:37 PM
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not one single person is making any of you punk ass bitches buy a healthcare policy ... if you don't like it, don't fucking play, pay the fine and stfu, you have THAT option ... leave the rest of the people in the country alone, ...
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Where were you when the Harry, Nancy, and Obaminable Show started?
Pssst ... the "rest of the people in the country" .... all 85% of them .....
.. had coverage until you, Harry, Nancy, and Obaminable fucked it up.
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04-07-2014, 02:47 PM
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Where were you when the Harry, Nancy, and Obaminable Show started?
Pssst ... the "rest of the people in the country" .... all 85% of them .....
.. had coverage until you, Harry, Nancy, and Obaminable fucked it up.
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I was listening to old farts like you bitch about the show just like you're doing right now, and to NO avail I might add ....
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04-07-2014, 05:12 PM
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Wasn't the objective to ensure that everyone, including the 30 something uninsured Americans, would have insurance? Geez, so far a little over 7 million have signed up ... whoopie! Only around 23 million more to go.
Oh, and didn't the left-nut-sack-sucking liberals make fun of a chart FOX news used to report on Obamacare enrollment? see here to refresh your memory http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1023375 the chart in the OP is the same fucking thing yet no peep from our liberal friends. Can you say hypocrits?
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04-07-2014, 05:15 PM
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Wasn't the objective to ensure that everyone, including the 30 something uninsured Americans, would have insurance? Geez, so far a little over 7 million have signed up ... whoopie! Only around 23 million more to go.
Oh, and didn't the left-nut-sack-sucking liberals make fun of a chart FOX news used to report on Obamacare enrollment? see here to refresh your memory http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1023375 the chart in the OP is the same fucking thing yet no peep from our liberal friends. Can you say hypocrits?
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so exactly what in the hell do you intend to do about it?
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04-07-2014, 05:19 PM
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so exactly what in the hell do you intend to do about it?
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VOTE!
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04-07-2014, 05:20 PM
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VOTE!
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and for who?
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04-07-2014, 05:22 PM
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I was listening to old farts like you bitch about the show just like you're doing right now, and to NO avail I might add ....
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Oh, I'm not "bitching" .... pointing out what a loser it is .. isn't "bitching."
Just let those who voted it in ... wear it for the next couple years.
Hillarious will eventually have to come out from beneath the rock under which she has been hiding and discuss what she thinks about it .... and what she is going to do about it when the repealing bill is placed in front of her.
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04-07-2014, 05:24 PM
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Oh, I'm not "bitching" .... pointing out what a loser it is .. isn't "bitching."
Just let those who voted it in ... wear it for the next couple years.
Hillarious will eventually have to come out from beneath the rock under which she has been hiding and discuss what she thinks about it .... and what she is going to do about it when the repealing bill is placed in front of her.
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pointing out what a loser it is day after day after day is BITCHING
go vote
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