Why does some caucasian hobbyist???

[tok07]

Originally Posted by lat

You just haven't meet me ... Lol...

I HAVE had that very incident that bigpapa1 is talking about.....but here's what gets to me....you will see in ads...."no AA men, UPSCALE GENTLEMEN ONLY" .....AS IF no black guy can be upscale or a gentleman.....jus saying!!!!!

[lat]

Originally Posted by chellachella

lol Very true Lat! Ive heard your pretty handsome. You never know, you might be the one to get the juices going.

Thanks ... But when I think about this tread I have to soul search myself !
Growing up with a mixed family my dad mom was white and my mom creole it was seven of us three dark skin and the rest light skin one of my sis can pass for white with her blue eyes , but the point I am making a lot of my friends will tell me I would pass over five dark skin beautiful ladies to get to one light skin , do that make me a racists ????

[chellachella]

Lat NO you are NOT a Racist! Its a personal preference, what you desire and are attracted to, just like some guys like skinny, some like bbw. Has nothing to do with the color of skin.

[Guest103014]

Originally Posted by Nicolet

I tell ignorant men who ask questions like that, 'too bad, your loss not mine'.
The African American men who call and ask if I would see them, I say to them, 'I see gentleman of all colors'. The key word is gentleman. Men are my candy and I want to taste the rainbow of flavors!

I read this and in my head I heard "drown the rainbow".... lol I crack me up.

[Bigpapa1]

It's not what individual providers preferences are that I wanted to discuss, it's the hobbyist who feels comfy telling a provider not to see someone of color.

[annie@christophers]

WHY DIDNT YA JUST SAY THAT?? LOL...

[April Cox]

BigPappa, in my personal experience in this
Hobby over the years no Caucasian gentleman has ever said to me that
They would refuse to visit with me if they knew I visited
With a gentleman of another race, or a black man for that matter.

I don't feel it is appropriate to discuss gentlemen's preferences with other hobbiest either.

So who are the ladies that are telling you this? How well established are they?

I feel as though I have been around long enough to have encountered this behavior from gentlemen if it were commonplace.

Are you sure that these ladies are not self projecting this attitude onto their clients? It is quite possible that these are the personal feelings of these ladies and they are using clients/potential clients as a scapegoat to justify their NBA policy. That way they themselves don't seem like bigots.

These ladies you are speaking with, do see black gentlemen and ask for no review, so that the white gentlemen don't know about it? That's lunacy.

Also, what is the race of the ladies saying this? Are they a majority white?

The black ladies that have an NBA policy blows my mind. I know you guys say that it's usually because a pimp/boyfriend is involved. Also, could it be because they think it will get more biz from white gentlemen? Also lunacy. Nothing about that line of reasoning is even logical. If you are a black woman, and a white gentleman is visiting with you, then obviously he is not racist. And I'm sure that he does not assume that you, as a black woman, has never once been intimate with a black man.
(Rest assured ladies and gents, ignorance is not dead)

So, along with BigPappa, requesting gentlemen to speak up about why the would attempt to tell a provider who they shouldn't see. I would like to know who these guys are.

The ladies who are filling Bigpappas head with this nonsense, I would also like for you to step forward and publicly justify.

I remember you and I, BigPappa, having this conversation in the past. And I remember you telling me these things. And me thinking, I guess some men are just like that. I have not personally experienced it, being a provider in the Deep South I should have come across this by now.

[April Cox]

You have not the first clue about what you are talking about. You are not a provider, not have you ever been, rub and tug isn't even close. No panty dropping. You do not have the knowledge nor the experience to speak on any of these topics, nor will you ever. You are not in the biz in anyway at this time. You are a poser, a faker and a wanna be. Who in their right mind would take you bullshit ass advise or consider any of your comments or threads helpful? Holy shitsnacks, your dumbass is showing, you don't know anything, just shit talking to hear yourself talk. Crap!!! STF

Originally Posted by chellachella

LOL yep I am! But I would love to see the reaction of the guy, I bet he would leave hahaha!

I have heard that you guys are perrty damn big, and from what I have seen on porn, aint NOOO Fucking way I would let those big things anywhere near the kitty!!! That has got to hurt!!

[April Cox]

If you ever get back in the biz? Crap, just shut up
About it, you know you will NEVER do or say this, why are you spouting so much nonsense?

Originally Posted by chellachella

LOL yep I am! But I would love to see the reaction of the guy, I bet he would leave hahaha!

I have heard that you guys are perrty damn big, and from what I have seen on porn, aint NOOO Fucking way I would let those big things anywhere near the kitty!!! That has got to hurt!!

Originally Posted by chellachella

That making the statements about the master and slaves I was being sarcastic. However, I do feel it (racism) is a learned behavior. We are not born to hate. We however are given free will to choose and all reach an age of accountability.

The men who bully in any manner whether it is in the hobby or out are just cowards. That goes for women too.

As for me, if I ever get back in the biz and come across one of these guys again, I tell ya what Papa, just for you...

I let him come in, pay me, get him naked, and as I have his junk in my hand, Ill refer to how small it is compared to my black client that just left, and tell him "Damn you shoulda seen what that brotha who just left was packing!!" and then "Oh shit, I forgot to wash my hands, hang tight, Ill be right back!"

LOL!!!

[Max Steed]

Originally Posted by April Cox

So who are the ladies that are telling you this? How well established are they?

There has been atleast 2 very well established and popular providers who told me this and 2 very popular VP who were on the younger side tell me this, so its not a myth.

It's very logical that you may not have experienced this April because you may not and do not come off as someone who can be controlled and manipulated.

I'm sure those are the targeted audiences. The ladies in question who I won't disclose publicly were.

[gimme_that]

I like seeing ladies of all races shapes and sizes. In regards to race though......there have been many times when I tried to see a white provider.........she sometimes by passed my most current black references just to call or contact an older white female ref I had to verify me. So occasionally.....I gotta see one token "whitebread Jenny from the country type" to be able to get past a few ladys screening. I get more difficulty and unnecessary questions from the white ones......but its cool. In certain areas its expected.

Some of those white ladys justified it as...."well you had too many black references, so I thought you might be a pimp or friends with those ladies because they were black." WTF lol

But to some degree all ladies are selective and discriminate to some degree. Even ladies over 45 who I have seen and BBWS always check to see if other ladies I saw matched their body type. Or would always ask me if I have seen other ladies similar to them.

[BigBaldBlk]

Originally Posted by April Cox

...Are you sure that these ladies are not self projecting this attitude onto their clients? It is quite possible that these are the personal feelings of these ladies and they are using clients/potential clients as a scapegoat to justify their NBA policy. That way they themselves don't seem like bigots...The black ladies that have an NBA policy blows my mind. I know you guys say that it's usually because a pimp/boyfriend is involved. Also, could it be because they think it will get more biz from white gentlemen? Also lunacy. Nothing about that line of reasoning is even logical...

April, these are very solid points. We have a Black lady here in Colorado who has an NBA policy because Denver is a small Black populated area and she's afraid she will run into people she knows, or friends of friends. I too think it's crazy, but "her playground, her rules!"

To the OP, the main reason ladies say this is marketing. The perception is they will see more Caucasian clients if they have an NBA policy in place. What I personally find hilarious about it is Caucasians males make up most of hobbyist around the country. Let's say Caucasian gents make up 40% of all hobbyist. If a provider chooses to pray upon some fears of losing this market, what will that market drop to?

My best guess...39.9999%

[SknyDiva]

Originally Posted by Seeking ~P

Wow!!!! Racism is so alive down here in these parts

Racism is alive in Louisiana.

[SknyDiva]

Originally Posted by chellachella

LOL yep I am! But I would love to see the reaction of the guy, I bet he would leave hahaha!

I have heard that you guys are perrty damn big, and from what I have seen on porn, aint NOOO Fucking way I would let those big things anywhere near the kitty!!! That has got to hurt!!

Too bad Ms.Chella!! Big COCKS were handed out equally to all races! Black men are great lovers!
Women make the best P*SS* eaters too!! :mf_laughboun ce2:

[Guest123018]

Originally Posted by SknyDiva

Big COCKS were handed out equally to all races!

That's what i thought ....