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Old 03-23-2015, 03:41 PM   #46
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It is pure fact my friend - Ted Cruz is viewed by Latinos as an Uncle Julio or whatever the Latino version is for an Uncle Tom - there's bo debate that he is not respected in the Latino community.
Classic conservative thinking. They mistakenly believe that trotting out a Latino sews up the Latino vote. It hasn't worked yet and I doubt it ever will. There are people who truly believe that trotting out Ben Carson would make blacks vote republican. Never going to happen and shows a tenuous grasp of the problem.
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:51 PM   #47
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The 'birthers' (like cockroaches) are coming out of the woodwork these days!
"Liked" your own post again, gfe(forbiddentopic)?
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:53 PM   #48
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Classic conservative thinking. They mistakenly believe that trotting out a Latino sews up the Latino vote. It hasn't worked yet and I doubt it ever will. There are people who truly believe that trotting out Ben Carson would make blacks vote republican. Never going to happen and shows a tenuous grasp of the problem.
Ted Cruz ... trotted himself out. I don't think "the conservatives" did.

Frankly, I would be surprised if Cruz thought he had a chance either.

But while you're trashing and insulting people for "trotting someone out" who doesn't have a snow ball's chance in hell winning ....

... keep us posted on the third-party candidates and their success stories.

Aren't you anti-Democratic Party and anti-Republican Party?

So in what Party do you belong? The "Not-Yet-Constructed Party"?

Take this to the bank: The same fools who belittled Cruz for jumping into the Senate race, are now trashing him for getting in the run for President....while trying to say he is "anti-Hispanic" .... like Obaminable is NOT?



huffingtonpost.com/2015-02-02

Might be a little more current than Little Timmie's bullshit.
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:22 PM   #49
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Why belittle third parties? They are actually second parties. The Republicrats are one party.
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Old 03-23-2015, 04:24 PM   #50
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Why belittle third parties? They are actually second parties. The Republicrats are one party.
I'm not "belittling" third-parties .... 4th or 5th parties ....

I'm calling attention to people ridiculing Cruz for not having a chance to win the White House, when those same people support a third-party. There's no difference.

I've already posted what I thought about it ... I think it helps Hillarious. The Hillarious apologists can start attacking Cruz and distract attention away from the lying and felonious activities of Hillarious ... while fabricating shit about Cruz .. instead of calling Hillarious out for fabricating lameass reasons for committing some serious federal felonies.
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Well, Cruz won't win for the same reason my guy, Gary Johnson, won't win. The puppet masters behind the scenes with the real money won't allow it. Party is pretty much irrelevant. If elections really had the chance to change anything, they would be outlawed.

But I will vote in the election. It will be a protest vote. I might even vote for Cruz in the caucus, not because I like Cruz (I don't), but he pisses off people I like to see pissed off.
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:02 PM   #52
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That is not an accurate statement of fact. Perhaps wishful thinking, but not factual.
You're the one wishing for something....and, you know it. Ted Cruz is a fringe whacko whose impact on Hispanic voting demographics will mean shit in the long run....and the short run.

Forget about it, you're dreaming.
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:07 PM   #53
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Wow....that didn't take long.

Fellow Texan John Cornyn won’t back Ted Cruz in presidential primary

By Manu Raju
3/23/15 1:55 PM EDT


Sen. Rand Paul may have fellow Kentuckian Mitch McConnell’s support for his likely 2016 presidential bid. But Sen. Ted Cruz won’t have his senior senator from Texas, John Cornyn, behind him.
Cornyn, the Senate majority whip, said in an interview Monday that he would stay neutral in the Republican primary, declining to endorse Cruz just hours after he became the first candidate to officially declare his presidential run.

“You know, we’ve got a lot of Texans who are running for president, so I’m going to watch from the sidelines,” Cornyn said when asked if he would back Cruz. (Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry is considering a run as well.)
Cornyn denied his position was retribution for Cruz’s refusal to back him during his Senate primary last year.
Cornyn’s position does not come as much of a surprise. The tea party freshman refused to back Cornyn during the senator’s crowded primary race last year, unlike in Kentucky where Paul aggressively campaigned for McConnell last year and backed him during his primary bid. But Cruz insisted he would stay neutral in Cornyn’s primary race, which he easily won.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...#ixzz3VFkiTAj8
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:14 PM   #54
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What a racist thing to write WE. Do you know who Uncle Tom was? He was a brave man in that book. You've probably never read it have you. You just it the name as a weapon against better people than you.

If you don't have the brains to figure it out, the Spanish version of Tom would be Tomas.
I am very sorry sir if my spanish is not up to par with your spanish. Yes, he is an Uncle Tomas- and what does being "brave" have to do with being a sellout to your own race for personal or political reasons?
You don't get a pass or get out of jail free pass becase you are "brave". Heck if I jump in a den with 5 hungry lions who hadn't eaten in a week- I would be "Brave" but very stupid as well.
Islamic Jihadist suicide bombers are brave because it take a lot of courage to strap a bomb to your body and blow yourself up- should we all idolize them as well because they are brave???
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Ted Cruz ... trotted himself out. I don't think "the conservatives" did.

Frankly, I would be surprised if Cruz thought he had a chance either.

But while you're trashing and insulting people for "trotting someone out" who doesn't have a snow ball's chance in hell winning ....

... keep us posted on the third-party candidates and their success stories.

Aren't you anti-Democratic Party and anti-Republican Party?

So in what Party do you belong? The "Not-Yet-Constructed Party"?

Take this to the bank: The same fools who belittled Cruz for jumping into the Senate race, are now trashing him for getting in the run for President....while trying to say he is "anti-Hispanic" .... like Obaminable is NOT?



huffingtonpost.com/2015-02-02

Might be a little more current than Little Timmie's bullshit.

Speaking of bullshit.....here's the rest of the article that you left out after you cherry-picked your little chart.

You're a knucklehead....and you can take that to the bank.

QUOTE/>>>>>More recently, we have re-tested favorability as well as specific questions on presidential vote intentions around many of the leading names on the GOP side. Here we assess how four possible candidates compared in July 2013 to November 2014. In the table below we present like data for Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. In every instance, the candidates are more known in 2014 than in 2013, as evidenced by the percent of Latino respondents saying “don’t know” or “never heard of” going down considerably in 2014. However, new news is not necessarily good news in this instance. While three of the four saw modest increases in their favorability ratings, all four saw noticeable increases in their unfavorability ratings. In fact, only Jeb Bush was a wash, adding 7% favorable and 7% unfavorable to his totals, still resulting in an overall net unfavorability of -12 points (34 fav to 46 unfav). The other three GOP names all experienced net decreases in their favorability as they became better known. Most notable was Ted Cruz, going from 20% unfavorable in 2013 to 39% unfavorable in 2014, almost doubling his unfavorables among Latino voters. Marco Rubio and Rand Paul also saw net shifts in the negative direction over the 2013 to 2014 polling. So whatever jostling these candidates were doing to raise their national profile, did not seem to have a positive effect on Latino voters.

Finally, we have asked a direct question about vote intention in 2016. In our October 2014 pre-election survey of Latinos we asked how likely, or unlikely voters would be to consider voting for five different candidates. We assessed Bush, Rubio, Cruz, Paul and Christie. In this instance, we gave voters some basic information about each possible GOP candidate, taken from direct quotes or their official websites, in terms of their publicly stated position on immigration reform {full question wording can be found here}. Further, we don’t present any of the GOP possible candidates against a Democratic candidate. That is, we were most interested in gauging how Latino voters feel about the GOP candidates themselves, and had we pitted them against the likes of Hillary Clinton, we may have seen movement away from each GOP candidate that was more of pro-Clinton pull. Thus, we can interpret these findings as the absolute support that Latino voters give to five GOP presidential hopefuls, as opposed to their pure partisan vote intensity.

Overall, Latino voters rejected the five GOP contenders by roughly a 2-1 margin. Among the least favorable were Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. Combining the very and somewhat likely results, we found 24% of Latino voters said they were likely to consider voting for Cruz and Paul in 2016 compared to over 70% who said they would not consider voting for each. Marco Rubio had the highest support at 35% likely to consider, but this left 59% unlikely and 6% undecided. Chris Christie, who had net favorables of +26 in 2013 (38 fav; 12 unfav) received only 33% support from Latinos, against 59% unlikely to support, and similarly Jeb Bush received 32% support versus 62% opposition.



Thus, as the 2016 GOP hopefuls currently stand, none seem to be a runaway favorite to redefine the GOP image vis-a-vis Latinos, as called upon by GOP leadership following the 2012 election. In the March 2013 report commissioned by the RNC, they wrote:
Among the steps Republicans take in the Hispanic community and beyond, we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our Party’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only. We also believe that comprehensive immigration reform is consistent with Republican economic policies that promote job growth and opportunity for all.” In Section 2 of their report titled “Hispanics” the GOP wrote: “If Hispanic Americans hear that the GOP doesn’t want them in the United States, they won’t pay attention to our next sentence. It doesn’t matter what we say about education, jobs or the economy; if Hispanics think that we do not want them here, they will close their ears to our policies. In essence, Hispanic voters tell us our Party’s position on immigration has become a litmus test, measuring whether we are meeting them with a welcome mat or a closed door.
We still have the better part of one year before the Iowa Caucuses and things can change, but it is very hard to imagine the potential GOP candidates moving towards a more moderate or pro-immigration reform position as they attempt to woo Republican primary voters. What exactly do they need to do? A Latino Decisions/Presente.org survey found that an overwhelming 89% of Latino voters supported the executive action for undocumented parents — including 76% of Latino Republicans; and likewise 80% of Latino voters said they are opposed to efforts to block or defund the executive action. In direct contrast to Latino public opinion, recent efforts by the Republican majority in the House of Representatives points to a path consistent with the Mitt Romney approach. In December 2014 Republicans in the House voted to block Obama’s 2014 executive action for undocumented parents. In January 2015 Republicans in the House voted to cancel all funding for Obama’s executive action for undocumented parents. Others such as Ted Cruz have threatened to consider a government shutdown in an effort to block Obama’s executive action for undocumented parents. There are now 26 states where Republican Attorneys General or Governors have signed on to a lawsuit attempting to stop the executive action for undocumented parents, and most recently Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner has announced his party plans to sue Obama in an effort to stop the President’s plan to protect undocumented parents from deportation. Despite their own warnings in a GOP published “honest review of the 2012 election cycle” the statements, votes and lawsuits promoted by Republicans run entirely counter to the advice they gave themselves.

Perhaps most interesting will be to follow and chart the public statements and policy platform of Jeb Bush. Some have suggested that Bush – who skipped the recent Iowa event hosted by Rep. Steve King – could provide an opportunity for the GOP to reinvent themselves with Latino voters. The data Latino Decisions has collected so far suggest Bush has not yet made any inroads with Latino voters. In Florida, he had been successful with winning the Latino vote, however the Florida Latino electorate is quite distinct from the national Latino electorate. Therefore, the next few months will be crucial for Bush and the entire 2016 field as the potential candidates give speeches, interviews and make policy statements. As the Republican National Committee report states clearly: “our Party’s position on immigration has become a litmust test.” They’re right.<<<<QUOTE/

I forget....what is Cruz' position on immigration and amnesty? Remind me motherfucker.
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Isn't it ironic that Cruz's mother is from Ireland- his father was from Cuba and Cruz was born in Canada and yet Cuz is still against immigration reform????? Oh how I love the hypocrisy!!!!
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Isn't it ironic that Cruz's mother is from Ireland- his father was from Cuba and Cruz was born in Canada and yet Cuz is still against immigration reform????? Oh how I love the hypocrisy!!!!
That's par for the course with republicans.
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http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ted-cruz/
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:43 PM   #59
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Looks like it's not just RWWs who lump people together...
Oh? Are you making a distinction between "all Hispanics" and all RWWIPE assholes?

So there are subsets of assholes among the RWWipers, like there are different nationalities of Hispancs?

Nah, you're typical of the RWWIPE mentality on this board, man... And yes, for the most part, you CAN dump them together. err, lump!

Also, did someone try and protest Cruz's nationality? REALLY??? Up until last year, it was dual. He was a Canadian when he was sworn into the Senate. I wonder if they habla espanol in Canada...or in Cruz's home?

He doesn't love America. He put millions out of work!

Enjoy the 2016 ride, WIPERS! The circus has come to town!

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Yes ...



Back to Cruz:

"In 2013, Sen. Cruz proposed amendments to the “Gang of 8” bill that would strengthen border security, expand green card opportunities, increase high-skilled “H1B” visas, prevent illegal aliens from receiving welfare benefits, and enforce the rule of law."
Somewhere there is an old abandoned warehouse full of all of those books of Hillary's that the DNC bought up.
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