Two EROTIC, WONDERFUL, EXCITING new things I tried-and YOU should too!!

[Sweet Heather]

My opinion of Austin as a place of intellectual, open minded, hotbed of hot, smart gents has officially been disproven by the comments to this thread.(with the exception of Ralphey Boy, who I can't WAIT to fuck my ass and put his long hard cock in my mouth).

Let me elaborate.

The bounderies of being a provider are constantly being pushed. In the back channels, many providers complain louldly and often about hobbyists constantly pushing bounderies and limits.(YOU know who you are!)

Allow me to make few points:

There is now(and I am going to start a thread about this in the national forum) a session called the "Natural Sesion". I have a provider friend based in San Diego that asked me if I had had any requests for the "Natural Sesion". "What?" I asked. The "Natural Session is BBFS". Let me explain. BARE BACK FULL SERVICE. FUCKING WITHOUT A CONDOM.

I'll let that sink in. In other words, there is now an actual term for BBFS. Why? BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME STUPID ASS BITCHES OUT THERE THAT ARE INCLUDING THIS RISKY AND DANGEROUS PRACTICE...as a part of their menu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thei r GFE Menu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Like COF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, we have all heard of this going on. But now apparently so many girls are providing this that there is now an actual term for it!

My friend asked, "Has anyone asked you for the "upgrade"(which apparently is code for unprotected sex).

"No", I replied.

"Well, they WILL". she replied.

Apparently it is common on the east and west coast. No doubt it will get here, sooner or later.

Which brings me back to the cunts, excuse me, "Ladies", that are allowing things like COF etc as a part of a GFE session.

To the same cunts, excuse me, "ladies", that are allowing gents to not respect bounderies, well here's your chance sweety! Now you can be the first to offer a "natural" session, and pity those providers that don't go along with the program! Us stupid, HEALTHY, providers that will eventually have to see the gents that YOU have allowed to fuck you bareback..since it's all about being "open minded".

[WickedHeather]

i always thought of the hobby as a way to 'experience'. different strokes for different folks.

i have a policy of not judging the hobbyist for what he desires, or the provider who fulfills that desire. now, do i do things i don't want to? no. are there things that i personally find distasteful, probably. if i am asked for something i just don't do, i know who does. and i know who does willingly and happily. and i am more than happy to pass that info along.

all i can say is...i would NEVER do something like this. try to shame others, especially another provider in an open forum. if you don't like it don't do it. these are, after all, consenting adults.

so really, the shame is on you.

[WickedHeather]

ok, so for the first time i am hearing that this whole rant is over BBFS? you certainly took the long way around to get to that point!

and seriously, COF & BBFS are the same thing?

[Guest092815]

what the hell does your above rant about supposedly rampant nationwide bbfs have to do with the original topic of this thread?

Start making sense. And, who the hell are you calling a CUNT?

[Guest052711]

Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

But those providers that are pushing the bounderies of what "GFE" means is the point. Read my following thread.
Let's be honest. No one actually knows what GFE means. If it was a separate thread you'd get as many different answers as comments. It's a general term, loosely defined. There are some things that are "mandatory" but others are optional. BBFS shouldn't be in anyone's menu. It's stupid. Is cof, greek, and bbfs really on the same level. What do gfe issues have to do with bbfs anyways. NO PROVIDERS SHOULD BE DOING THAT!

We may not all agree & find others' interests not to our taste, but you can move on w/out comment rather than judge or jeer. Fair enough, but when opinionsand comments affect ME indirectly or indirectly I feel I MUST speak out...for all the providers that choose to remain silent
You still haven't been able to show how it directly or indirectly affected you... You DEFINITELY haven't been able to show how a provider "pushing the limits" affected you. Guys ask that all the time. I dated a guy who had been a virgin who constantly tried to sneak the condom off. These problems are not exclusive to the hobby.

.For every sex addict or sexually starved hobbyist a provider may meet is another who has feelings of inadequacy or self-loathing from being persecuted for having interests that are off the beaten path.Yes, sir, that's true. But your valid points really have nothing to due with what we are discussing. With all due respect.
With all due respect, it does matter when you're openly criticizing things in a forum that hobbyists, providers, husbands, girlfriends, daughters, and so on ENJOY doing. Especially when the forum is meant as a safe place for people to find and discuss the "unusual" things they're interested in. If you think what you provide is so normal try asking you child, parents, neighbors, grocery store clerk if escorting is "acceptable and within boundaries as long as it's only GFE."

Who are we to say what's wrong?Is ass to mouth wrong to be included in a GFE session? Is slapping of face, spitting in open asshole wrong to be included in a GFE session? Well? Agree to disagree & move on.And thank you for your input, sir.

Is kissing wrong to be asked for in a PSE session? Is a domme allowed to occasionally have GFE sessions? Are escorts allowed to have normal relationships? You ask the questions but you don't give reasons for your sarcasm.

It's always easier to merely attack what someone else says rather than make coherent, logical, factual arguments as to why their coherent, logical, factual arguments are less coherent, logical, and factual than yours. THATS what makes good debate. THATS what changes peoples' opinions.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

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As I stressed last time, the way Brittney handled it was far better than any other way she could have. If you read her reviews she's very clearly NOT PSE. She's a GFE that has recently discovered she likes COF. Which as much as you want to make a big deal out of it, is relatively common, in and out of the escort world.

If you look at your client demographics most of them probably are married they're just looking for something different. If it makes you uncomfortable, just say no. It's not meant to be so complicated.

Reviews exist so guys can decide which provider is best for them and is closest to their fantasy. If you really hate it, mention on your faq page that you don't allow cof, atm, and all the other things you don't like.

If guys aren't reading the reviews, aren't paying attention to your "no list", by all means complain about that. Guys should be doing those things. I personally think they are. However, if your experiences say otherwise then bitch away. ABOUT THAT.

Brittney made it clear that she was the "different" GFE provider who liked cof. She didn't encourage other women to follow suit. She didn't encourage men to demand it.

There are plenty of wrongdoings that are worth being discussed in hopes they won't continue. One girl saying she was the one girl who did it, isn't really one of them...

Personally, if a guy asks for bbfs. I won't see him. At all. Under any circumstances. Ever. Anything that is going near other girls uncovered isn't going near me.

[poseidon]

Originally Posted by WickedHeather

all i can say is...i would NEVER do something like this. try to shame others, especially another provider in an open forum. if you don't like it don't do it. these are, after all, consenting adults.

so really, the shame is on you.

WickedHeather and Maddie have nailed it. "Sweet" Heather, the sarcasm in your OP was funny but a sense of logic has since escaped you.

[atxbrad]

I cant believe some of you dudes are even getting involved with a cat fight

[CaseyTaylor]

Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

Originally Posted by MaddietheCoed
Is asking for COF from a provider who is self professed GFE really that bad? YES. YES. YES. GFE does NOT...NOT...NOT include ass to mouth, cum on face, greek, slapping of face, spitting into open ass...are you Austin girls so fucking desperate and dense that you can't understand this??

Damn, Heather--you are one bitchin chica!! I finally get the whole dominatrix thing--I am so sorry mistress! Please call me a stupid hooker! Please? LOL (Is it ok for the tricks to call me a stupid hooker, too? Let me know asap. ) I'm not sure but I think that was your point (?) I am really afraid you are going to think I am being a mean girl but honest, I'm not! LOL I am really very sweet, I promise!

I am not always dense. Just sometimes, when I am fuckin desperate. I hope you can relate. LOL So I've been thinking I should offer fetishes. What do you think? Is acting like a dumb-ass blond a fetish, or is that just role playing? Can I charge extra for it? (Do tricks like it?) LOL Sometimes I like to wear thigh highs and hooker heels and really short skirts. (BIII-OING! If you know what I mean. LOL) Is that still GFE? (Or is that an ad? ) LOL

I thought this thread was in response to BB's post on COF, but I didn't know she was into all those disgusting things! LOL Are you trying to make the slippery slope argument? It's just hard to follow cause the Austin forums have an minimum 8th grade logic rule and zero-tolerence for sarcasm. LOL Some drunk posting is fun cause its funny unless someone is a mean drunk--but that is off topic and I don't want to hijack your thread. LOL

Mostly I think your posts are great! Don't worry about these other stupid girls. Especially the ones who ask questions about what the guys like to do. Cause its stupid to try and promote yourself for a little extra attention. Much better to speak up and be thought foolish than to remain silent and keep them guessing. Or something like that, I think. I'm a little confused. LOL

Most of all, the tricks really like a good catfight!!! Let's all meet for drinks when you are in Austin, k? I think we could charge for that. LOL

Kisses!
~~Casey

[VictoriaLyn]

SweetHeather..not only do I allow COF I even swallow so I guess that makes me on big ol trashy super cunt

Originally Posted by WickedHeather

all i can say is...i would NEVER do something like this. try to shame others, especially another provider in an open forum. if you don't like it don't do it. these are, after all, consenting adults.

so really, the shame is on you.

That fact that one could or would.. to me makes them a..,,OOO wha was that oh so lady like term she used? oh yea a fucking cunt.......

[WickedHeather]

Much better to speak up and be thought foolish than to remain silent and keep them guessing. Or something like that, I think. I'm a little confused. LOL


better to remain silent and be THOUGHT a fool rather than speak and remove all doubt.

this thread is one of those perfect examples.

[Guest092815]

"SweetHeather..not only do I allow COF I even swallow so I guess that makes me on big ol trashy super cunt " from VictoriaLyn...

I'm with you VL! Super-cunts unite!! *(laughing my ass off)*

[AidanRedd]

I bet Whispers is laughing so hard he can't even type.

Brad has his popcorn in hand.

I'm proud of our Austin Adoribles for standing up and saying "it's ok to be a freak".

All I know is, the freakier I get, the more overall fun I have.

I don't swallow or do ass to mouth, but I damn sure love those that do.

What this thread is really about now is "don't knock it until you try it" and "you can't ever judge someone else for what they do with consenting adults".

Because if you do judge, "GET OUT OF THIS BIZ, YOUR GIVING EVERYONE ELSE A BAD NAME!!!".

[CaseyTaylor]

Originally Posted by WickedHeather

Much better to speak up and be thought foolish than to remain silent and keep them guessing. Or something like that, I think. I'm a little confused. LOL


better to remain silent and be THOUGHT a fool rather than speak and remove all doubt.

this thread is one of those perfect examples.

Oh, thanks! LOL
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[Carl]

Originally Posted by VictoriaLyn

SweetHeather..not only do I allow COF I even swallow so I guess that makes me on big ol trashy super cunt

Originally Posted by Crystalkitty

I'm with you VL! Super-cunts unite!! *(laughing my ass off)*

I'm more partial to the term ThunderPussies, you know, like the ThunderCats? But from the planet Pudenda instead of Thundera.

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[Takeshi Miike]

Alright, I gotta ask, Heather, what is it exactly that you like about sex? What are you into? You're definitely making it clear what you're NOT into, but don't you think it would be more helpful to explain what you do enjoy?