Question Of Etiquette (and post #1000!)

[Whispers]

ohhh yeah... After she agreed on the three Benjis.... She never collected on the dances...... THAT happens pretty regularly in all honesty!

I suppose they write it off as advertising....

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by ztonk

I was going to suggest supplementing the monetary donation with roses. Many ladies advertise roses, it seems reasonable!

i knew it was you overpaying the girls I introduced you to!


Have you priced roses lately? A fucking Dozen roses tend to be AT LEAST $29.95....

That's $2.50 each if you get a good price....

Bring a gal "200 roses" instead of 200 washingtons and you just paid her $500!!!!!!

STOP THAT PLEASE!!!!!


you realize of course the girls that are taking your "roses" are selling them on another website..... Their "driver" probably delivers them during the next session.....

What a scam!

[Willen]

I see a distinction between a club environment, where the dancer obviously is not posting rates for extra-curricular actvities, and a board where the rates for 'time spent' (perish the thought that anything untoward might occur) are posted and established. In the former case negotiation is almost required, but in the second case I'm one of those who respects the posted price.

[Sensual Sophia]

Hello, thanks for taking my call.

I don't think it's ALWAYS rude to negotiate money but depending on the provider, you could end up making her uncomfortable, leading to a less than satisfying session, or possibly even spooking her out of an appointment. Many providers are taught never to talk about money less they get trapped into saying something incriminating to a cop. Many providers will cease communication if the donation is discussed.

I feel like I'm savvy enough to avoid saying anything incriminating while discussing money (or at least I hope I am) but I still hate to do it. It's hard to keep the GFE illusion going after you've haggled over price like a vendor in a 3rd world market stall.

I do cut people breaks on rare occasions. Usually these are for multi-day sessions where they are covering all of my expenses. I also cut breaks in the form of pre-paid deals. If I can count on a guy to see me every week I might also give him a break -- but this is rare as there is no way to insure he will actually follow through on that commitment. They have to be a regular for a few weeks in a row before I'll consider accepting an offer for a long term arrangement. Otherwise, you'll know I'm having a special when you receive an email from me or see me post an ad.

When a guy who has never seen me before asks for a discount on a 1 hour session, I politely decline. But it does make me uncomfortable to be put in that position as I really do hate to discuss money. Still, I can't blame a guy for trying to get the most bang for his buck. I'm a ferocious bargain shopper so I understand the drive to never pay retail. But I usually look for advertised deals rather than haggling. I use coupons or buy things on sale. When shopping for a service professional such as a doctor or a carpenter, I read reviews and ask about prices but I never suggest that the service professional lowers his or her price, I just go with the one I feel is the best value.

Thanks for taking my call.

[rekcaSxT]

Originally Posted by Sensual Sophia

Hello, thanks for taking my call.

I don't think it's ALWAYS rude to negotiate money but depending on the provider, you could end up making her uncomfortable, leading to a less than satisfying session, or possibly even spooking her out of an appointment. Many providers are taught never to talk about money less they get trapped into saying something incriminating to a cop. Many providers will cease communication if the donation is discussed.

I feel like I'm savvy enough to avoid saying anything incriminating while discussing money (or at least I hope I am) but I still hate to do it. It's hard to keep the GFE illusion going after you've haggled over price like a vendor in a 3rd world market stall.

I do cut people breaks on rare occasions. Usually these are for multi-day sessions where they are covering all of my expenses. I also cut breaks in the form of pre-paid deals. If I can count on a guy to see me every week I might also give him a break -- but this is rare as there is no way to insure he will actually follow through on that commitment. They have to be a regular for a few weeks in a row before I'll consider accepting an offer for a long term arrangement. Otherwise, you'll know I'm having a special when you receive an email from me or see me post an ad.

When a guy who has never seen me before asks for a discount on a 1 hour session, I politely decline. But it does make me uncomfortable to be put in that position as I really do hate to discuss money. Still, I can't blame a guy for trying to get the most bang for his buck. I'm a ferocious bargain shopper so I understand the drive to never pay retail. But I usually look for advertised deals rather than haggling. I use coupons or buy things on sale. When shopping for a service professional such as a doctor or a carpenter, I read reviews and ask about prices but I never suggest that the service professional lowers his or her price, I just go with the one I feel is the best value.

Thanks for taking my call.

I was hoping you would call in.

Thanks for the response. I consider you to be one of the most level headed women on here and I appreciate your contribution. This thread would have been incomplete without your contribution.

[TheItalianStallion]

If you can't afford it, just wait, save, and leave the money in the envelope.

If you ran 15 minutes over an appt, by this logic; she should be able to say "Thats another $100." I think paying the advertised rate shows at least a superficial level of respect.

I suppose one COULD haggle...But you're not buying a Happy Meal here, kids.

[GneissGuy]

If you've made an appointment and ask for a discount after you show up, you're way out of line. Haggling after formally making an appointment is in bad taste at least.

If you haggle before making an appointment, that's entirely appropriate. It's entirely appropriate for her to say no and/or decide not to see you. No reason to get upset on either side of the transaction. However, if she says no, don't nag her. No need to be a pest.

Me, I never haggle, but I do often walk away from the high priced spread, and I will often choose the lady with a better rate. Or see her when she offers a special.

[gman44]

Originally Posted by Sensual Sophia

Hello, thanks for taking my call.

I don't think it's ALWAYS rude to negotiate money but depending on the provider, you could end up making her uncomfortable, leading to a less than satisfying session, or possibly even spooking her out of an appointment. Many providers are taught never to talk about money less they get trapped into saying something incriminating to a cop. Many providers will cease communication if the donation is discussed.

I feel like I'm savvy enough to avoid saying anything incriminating while discussing money (or at least I hope I am) but I still hate to do it. It's hard to keep the GFE illusion going after you've haggled over price like a vendor in a 3rd world market stall.

I do cut people breaks on rare occasions. Usually these are for multi-day sessions where they are covering all of my expenses. I also cut breaks in the form of pre-paid deals. If I can count on a guy to see me every week I might also give him a break -- but this is rare as there is no way to insure he will actually follow through on that commitment. They have to be a regular for a few weeks in a row before I'll consider accepting an offer for a long term arrangement. Otherwise, you'll know I'm having a special when you receive an email from me or see me post an ad.

When a guy who has never seen me before asks for a discount on a 1 hour session, I politely decline. But it does make me uncomfortable to be put in that position as I really do hate to discuss money. Still, I can't blame a guy for trying to get the most bang for his buck. I'm a ferocious bargain shopper so I understand the drive to never pay retail. But I usually look for advertised deals rather than haggling. I use coupons or buy things on sale. When shopping for a service professional such as a doctor or a carpenter, I read reviews and ask about prices but I never suggest that the service professional lowers his or her price, I just go with the one I feel is the best value.

Thanks for taking my call.

I was waiting for words of wisdom from the beautiful Sophia

This sexxxxy lady really knows her stuff

I admire you Sophia

[SweetKimberly]

Let's say you buy something at Dillard's for $100 but you only have $80. Would Dillard's let you take your purchase home for $80? IT'S THE SAME THING!

I do agree with Kat that if it is a regular client who I have seen many times in the past I would probably make an exception. MAYBE.

[KlassyKelliAnn]

Originally Posted by Kit-4-Kat

I'll step up, although my thoughts were covered adequately by Roxanne above. If you're a client I've seen for some time, it's certainly not a problem to be flexible on occasion. There are times when that last appt is all you need to get something taken care of just as it may prevent the hobbyist from making the cut. There's give & take allowed once the respect has been established in a working relationship.

If it's your first meeting w/ me, that's a different story which the last sentence is at the root of the issue. I've only had this problem w/ fellas who took advantage of specials that were running to make their first appointment. When they came around to setting the next appt, they'd want the past rate if not the same currently listed. The difference is usually negligible (+$20) as I have had a long running special rate that has only deviated a few times in almost a year.

Established protocol eliminates the potential for blurring the boundaries in a business relationship that has a more personal nature. It's a difficult relationship to balance if you stray too far from those limits.

Lastly, rekcaSxT, you are correct to include the X-factor:

What if it is an established hobbyist who writes reviews that get a lot of attention?

Free advertising is always a perk when you run your own business! lol This point can make a big difference to a provider who is either brand new or long-established. Both need the "buzz" to get their names out and phones ringing. Personally, I think requesting a review is tacky but will graciously thank a fella for his efforts if offered.

So, yes, this is a ymwv kinda issue - case by case, if you will. These days it's probably a good practice not to look a gift horse in the mouth. Everyone has their own struggles and we simply have to remember that & help them along, too. It's a win/win either route.

Hope you get to see your dream date & it's all you hoped for!

Kat
XOXOX

Kat, I feel exactly the same way you do about this issue and to a T! Very well thought out and articulated.

To the OP: Excellent thread! Thanks for the respecful approach to it as well. Very nice.

-KKA

[rekcaSxT]

Originally Posted by KlassyKelliAnn

To the OP: Excellent thread! Thanks for the respecful approach to it as well. Very nice.

-KKA

Thanks!

This is last week's show, check out this week's, we are talking about condoms. Unfortunately, my co-host/producer is missing at the moment.

ROXANNE!?

[KlassyKelliAnn]

LOL, Roxanne has moved on, has she...? Damn, I wanted her here......sorry I got here too late. Bring on the condoms!

-KKA

[Sexy Roxanne]

Sorry I have been slipping, lol. Here helping with calls. Next caller please, I'm waiting...

[rekcaSxT]

Go here
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=37316

[Sexy Roxanne]

On my way