Does the hobby make you a better lover?

[Guest110516]

In general, no. I think I'm better with my ATF, because she brings out the best in me, but anyone else, nope.

[awl4knot]

Originally Posted by manoffewwords

I've never had a truly spectacular kiss from a provider.

Manoffewwords, you sure covered a lot of issues in a short post, but the kiss bit resonated with me. A few years ago I had the most spectacular kiss from a provider that was so sensual, provocative, intense and emotionally probing that I was a little bit scared. I had no idea that a person could communicate so much desire, longing and emotional linkage simply by locking lips.

Keep at it and you will find the one.

Awl4knot

[thumpusa]

I like it when the lady enjoys our visit too. So as much as I'm the client, a client who offers nothing to help the consultant is a drag. 2nd visits tend to be better than firsts, though first visits where rapport has been developed are pretty damn good.

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by manoffewwords

Am I being arrogant to think that I can get them excited after they've been with a dozen men that week? That day?

Nope, it can and does most certainly happen.....occasionally at least.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by manoffewwords

Am I being arrogant to think that I can get them excited after they've been with a dozen men that week? That day?

I'll put it this way. Even if she's been with 3 guys a day, most of the time not even ONE was able to "satisfy" or "excite" her. Alot of these guys do NOT know what they are doing. Very few do. Some don't even care if the girl is excited or not and like to just bang away. Oh and it has nothing to do with being attracted to the guy. I've came with guys that I wouldn't date in my personal life. Some guys are great in the sack and others aren't. When we get one that is/actually knows what he's doing, it's a treat/bonus and we usually like to keep those guys around. We love to teach and give direction but I've said - not too many are willing to take it.

[burkalini]

Being the honest pig that I am I will admit that there are times that my personal satisfaction are the main point in a session. It really depends on the provider. If she turns me on then I make it a point to make her happy. Honestly I don't feel bad when I don't simply because I'm footing the bill. Now all you wonderful lovers that make sure she cums 15 times with every session I simply bow my head and say your just better than I am but no one is more honest.

[Jackie S]

You Said: "Women are like boats"

Well, the old saying goes that "a Boat is a big hole in the water that you keep throwing money into".

I guess a woman is a big hole in the..........oh hell,, skip it

[Naomi4u]

Women are NOT like boats. I can't float .

[Ed Highlight]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Women are NOT like boats. I can't float .

I've seen you naked...you won't sink!!

[awl4knot]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Women are NOT like boats. I can't float .

Remember what you said about people not wanting to take directions? I guarantee you that with a few lessons you will learn how to float. It is a simple physical fact that the human body is less heavy than the water it displaces and that means you will float. The reason people won't float is because of a lack of trust. Go to a YMCA and take some swimming lessons and you will see.

See how I got two hobby themes into this post about buoyancy?

[acp5762]

Well, lets look at like this. When you first start driving a car the first few years are real critical. Anyone can basically move a vehicle from point A to point B, but in those early stages thats when you will develope knowledge of the road and good defensive driving skills, to prevent accidents and other mishaps. If these skills aren't developed early you may never develope them. Same thing with women. You learn the skills of attracting women and romancing women at a young age, late teens early 20's. If that part of your life does not get handled early it's harder to develope as you get older. I know a lot of guys on here won't like hearing this but most hobbyists on here were never really good with women. I've read many articles on this subject and it can be painful to read. But there is one good point. only about 3% of the male population has such savy with women. These are the guys commonly known as pickup artist. They meet women everywhere. Bars, Malls, Grocery Stores you name it. They know how to talk with women and spark attraction. They can get a phone number and meet this girl for a bonafide date that may or may not lead to sex on the first date, but it's the idea of being able to do this. How many guys here have seen a hot chick at the Grocery store and all ya did was stare. Guys that really understand women normally won't seek escorts. Because they like the chase and drama of pursuing a girl they are attracted to. They are also good in bed because they know how to generate seduction within a women. Now you were asking if seeing an escort makes a hobbyist a better lover. I think it can if he learns something about how to seduce a women. That can be hard for some, cause lets face it. We know very little about one another. The prospect of sex is pretty much expected and there really isn't anything a hobbyist has to do to spark any attraction. Now you mentioned that you've pointed things out to clients that may help them and they didn't seem to want to take your suggestions well they should have. Hobbyists can learn from an escort. Geraldo Rivera wrote a book on his life and in it he stated he learned a lot about women from escorts at a very early age. Nothing wrong with a 24 year old escort telling a 45 year old guy that he's a lousy kisser and what he might do to improve. I only use escorts to learn or to improve what I was always good at anyway. I would like to meet another nice girl one day. I don't want to sit around thinking, "Oh Man I am Horny" then try and find a girl on BackPage to call. I don't want to be that guy.

[MrGiz]

I guess it's just me... but I believe we have been waaaaaay too over-analytical here!!* I took the original question to infer sexual performance... not social/romantic/bar/grocery/library/church/work scene pick-up success performance.... maybe I read it wrong.

In most areas of human experience... the more practice one has with any one activity... the more proficient they become.* Sex is no different.

The Hobby presents a unique opportunity for a huge practice field made-up of many different types male-female partners.* If practice does indeed improve proficiency.... The Hobby simply has to provide a venue!!

For those girls here, who have suggested that very few guys know what the hell they are doing.... please show me your certified, card-carrying, proof of self-proficiency!!* PLEASE!! Some of you definitely fuck more than the average hobby dawg.... but not ALL of you.* And even if you do.... that is certainly no guarantee of higher qualification!!

With all the fucking that occurs between male & female hobby members.... I cannot see how The Hobby cannot help improve sexual performance, overall.... male and/or female!!* Practice is Practice... plain and simple!* Some will never learn.... but most will!

Of course.... I could be wrong... the above is only my opinion!!

[acp5762]

Well your post was fine and your opinion well granted. Ha, maybe I got a bit analytical, I'll appologize, sometimes I just lock and load, lol. One point I was trying to bring across and it may have gotten lost. Escorts do provide a method of learning. But I can't see the value in patronizing escorts for ever. I've read posts where members reveal they have been hobbying for as much as 15-20 years. So I would think they are good at the actual act. I realize the actual thread was about, does hobbying make you a better lover before you started. Then I got onto a routine about attracting women and seduction and all that. I guess I wrote that post in the manner in which I did, because I haven't really adapted well to the "hobby". I am single again after a long marriage. I do date conventionally, unfortunately the women I've dated it hasn't always lead to any sexual encounter. I guess at this stage of my life I've seen escorts in hopes of acquiring some knowledge about women and myself that I may carry into my private dating life. Where as with other hobbyist they may not be particularly concerned whether or not this hobby has made them a better lover or not.

[alexxxia]

I am a Mature Companion; therfore, the majority of the Gents whom seek my company are also of mature age. The truth is that most of these Gents have been married to the same lady for 25,30,40 and even 50 years. Their wife was mostly a young virgin, who believed that sex was an act for reproducing and most were not open-minded to experimenting. Any act outside of the "norm" was and still is viewed as perverted and unacceptable. For example . . Oral sex, anal sex and even passionate kissing, which by the way, has also evolved to more meaningful act throughout the years. For the sake of keeping the "peace" or " the conservative up bringing" . . Sex was mostly a bland act . . . No Sugar or Spice. Meaning, Not Much Experience was gained.

Most of the older gents were too busy working and providing for there families to care about the "adventurous" sex. However, now that they are retired and have more time on their hands to wonder about and desire what they never had before . . They are making time to fulfill their fantasies.

Personally, I have had a greater number of Gents meet with me who put forth their best efforts to satisfy me than those who literally lay flat on their backs and put forth zero effort. In fact, I've only had 1 of those effortless wonders, about a year ago, and he still continues to visit with me, except now does more to take care of me too.

The truth is . . I enjoy getting to know my "friends" before actually "providing" for them. During the "Meet & Greet" session I ask several questions that will allow me to gain a better understanding of the person that is sitting there with me. I'm always curious to know what level of experience he has and if he is willing to experiment or be a little more open-minded. After all, I want him to have an unforgettable experience. Plus, I want to know what the boundaries are . . . I would never want anybody to feel uncomfortable. I've learned that even the far experienced "great lovers" are willing to be coached a little during a session . . they understand that not all ladies are pleased in the same way.

Suggestion to try something new IS a form of instruction when the Gent is willing to experiment. Suggestion is the power to manipulate and control the session. We as Companions can control how Great or Poor a session will turn out . . regardless of the Gents experience and motivation or lack of.

Every first time visitor will ask me "What turns you on?" I am very honest with my answer when I say "ENERGY". The truth is that I feed off the energy that I receive. If the Gent is high energy then he is going to receive the same in return; however, if he is low energy, I respect that. Eventually, the level of energy will increase, but if it doesn't . . . Thats Okay Too.

[heresy]

YES, I am certain of it.