Raid at Number 1 Spa Post

[CG2014]

They could at least change some of the words and phrasing around.

There is such thing as a Thesaurus.

They all sound like a copycat of one another with the same BS narrative


each time one of these massage parlors get busted,


no matter what city or what state it's located in.

[Doug4343]

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

They definitely mentioned the online reviews in that article. LE is reading and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a mole on this site from the News Media with Premium Access. Reviews from this site and others are being used as intel for LE and has been confirmed. The prosecutors in this case will bring up these reviews as evidence in any trial against Mamasan/Owner. Any customers arrested can be subject to their electronic devices seized by a warrant and ANY evidence found therein used against them. They may even find incriminating evidence on your device that isn't even related to the arrest.

Refer to arizona busts. LE used the reviews as “pimping” and prosecuted the johns with felonies.

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

I'm very curious about the inflated numbers that LE gave. Up to 80 such businesses in the confines of Northwest Dallas. I wonder if they know about underground dark web establishments in nondescript locations or are they just giving those numbers to gain more support for their campaign.

[CG2014]

Appalling how these news reporters believe the bullshit they spew out.

I thought news reporter are held to a standard of truth

and they must be impartial and

must always verify everything that they put in print must be true and accurate

and not one sided.

Just because the Police tell them so it's not always true.

Police are the biggest liars around and biggest criminal organization around.

They are like mob and mafia and triad and cartel and yakuza with badges.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by Thaiman

I think why this article was written to bring attention to the horrible living conditions they live in. But it still cracks me up when all the girls are victims of human trafficking. Some maybe but not many

really? you think that is why the article was written?

absolute NONSENSE.

most of these ladies live better than I do, in nice apartments. you obviously believe the bullshit that these ladies are trafficked, and live onsite. the article describes a plastic-covered bed, insinuating that those are beds ladies sleep in.. the table shower beds.. absurd.

Originally Posted by Hank3fan

What a hack job. Typical pandering to the “trafficking” narrative. He forgot to mention the 6 grand they found was probably the ladies that worked there and they basically stole the money those women had been working for.

And to say the women were most likely trafficked from overseas and forced to come there against their will. And made to live and work there is incredible and irresponsible. Every one of them, as most of us who have been around a while know they are free to come and go as they please and some of them have apartments near there.

I like how he mentioned that the one mama was sitting on the ground next to a condom wrapper implying the its from that place. When in fact more likely from one of the 25 street hookers walking by.

FACT

Originally Posted by LargeBreastFan

"Vice officers estimate there are between 65 to 80 of these businesses in northwest Dallas alone."

yeah, sure.. that is a good 800% MORE than I would guess. this Wilonsky got played, the Officers wrote the article, basically, feeding him nonsense, trying to make their job seem "overwhelming", this "plague" infesting NW Dallas, oh my..

Originally Posted by Bootiescratcher

she will go after easy targets like this all day long and will make sure there is media to report on it to show that she is doing something.

yes.. Wilonsky got invited to spew the Police narrative, and he made sure to feed the ad revenue of the sales-dwindling Dallas Morning News, with that screaming headline "Human Trafficking". shoddy journalism, even his biased narrative inside the story made no mention of trafficking.

Originally Posted by BobbyMann

HSL: Passport? Who said anything about passports?? I don't see a reference to that in the news article, and it's not a practice at any spa I know. Please enlighten us.

indeed. what a spurious post. I never heard of anyone's passport held.

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

I'm very curious about the inflated numbers that LE gave. Up to 80 such businesses in the confines of Northwest Dallas.

absurdly inflated.

Originally Posted by CG2014

Appalling how these news reporters believe the bullshit they spew out.

I thought news reporter are held to a standard of truth

truth is a dying commodity in "News".. if News even exists anymore. both parties here have an agenda, and fed bullshit to the Public for their own gain.. Impeachment inquiry, anyone?

[RonnieReagan]

Chung, great refutation of that crap article. I implore you to put those points and other facts into an honest anonymous comment on the article, or even an article you write in response (if you could get them to print it). I think that the only reason Trump and most local politicians get on the anti-AMP bandwagon is they have the wrong facts about freedom of choice among sex workers. You can help explain the truth and maybe correct these distorted government priorities that undermine our liberties and divert our tax resources to misguided ends. Chung for president!

[Goose2u]

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

They definitely mentioned the online reviews in that article. LE is reading and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a mole on this site from the News Media with Premium Access. Reviews from this site and others are being used as intel for LE and has been confirmed. The prosecutors in this case will bring up these reviews as evidence in any trial against Mamasan/Owner. Any customers arrested can be subject to their electronic devices seized by a warrant and ANY evidence found therein used against them. They may even find incriminating evidence on your device that isn't even related to the arrest.

It certainly doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.... we've been shooting ourselves in the foot.

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

In the News article it was mentioned about the use of the word "Mamasan" in reviews. That can only mean one thing that LE has Premium Access because "Mamasan" is only used in the ROS of the reviews and not visible to non Premium members. Private tags may be useless at this point. You can bet your bottom dollar that they are sitting in on this board. The Million Dollar question is: Who is it???

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

They definitely mentioned the online reviews in that article. LE is reading and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a mole on this site from the News Media with Premium Access. Reviews from this site and others are being used as intel for LE and has been confirmed. The prosecutors in this case will bring up these reviews as evidence in any trial against Mamasan/Owner. Any customers arrested can be subject to their electronic devices seized by a warrant and ANY evidence found therein used against them. They may even find incriminating evidence on your device that isn't even related to the arrest.

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

In the News article it was mentioned about the use of the word "Mamasan" in reviews. That can only mean one thing that LE has Premium Access because "Mamasan" is only used in the ROS of the reviews and not visible to non Premium members. Private tags may be useless at this point. You can bet your bottom dollar that they are sitting in on this board. The Million Dollar question is: Who is it???

Exactly.

Which is why it it foolish to allow people to get all PA by doing reviews and paying for it. Meaning that a handle that has PA on Eccie does not necessarily mean they are a verified hobbyist.

[Cuckleberryfin]

They 100% are on here watching, I brought it up just after 9/1 in the mens lounge and how it may impact the amps. All I got was roasted from the likes of Chung telling me how the law had nothing to do with amps, well guess what guys...when it has to do with stuff online and people are writing all kinds of stuff about amps ofcourse it will. The prudent move would be to cease putting addresses, phone numbers, real names of spas, etc in these reviews and find a more discrete way to go about things, not that I'm saying anything that LE would frown upon is going on there but they could certainly interpret it that way.

[twitch760]

Originally Posted by Cuckleberryfin

They 100% are on here watching,

Maybe we should stop writing reviews and only post location information going forward. Take the reviews to known people that have a history of posting to PMs. Lower the exposure as much as we can.

[nightr]

Originally Posted by Cuckleberryfin

They 100% are on here watching, I brought it up just after 9/1 in the mens lounge and how it may impact the amps. All I got was roasted from the likes of Chung telling me how the law had nothing to do with amps, well guess what guys...when it has to do with stuff online and people are writing all kinds of stuff about amps ofcourse it will

I agree 100% and I think we all can agree the police read this from time to time. They would be stupid not to. That said there's not a whole lot they can do with it, legally speaking.

Honestly, I think over the years, with lack enforcement by Dallas PD AMPs became more relaxed in their security procedures especially with new customers. If the AMPs are smart they will retrain the girls on what not to say to a client. with just a little bit more effort AMPs can make it a lot more different for the police to build a case using undercover officers.

That said I also think CT has a point about them being targeted for blatant visibility to public and refusing to move. If that's truly the case I expect the next target to be all the prostitutes that walk Harry Hines and Walnut Hill night after night. I drive the area frequently (how I stumbled on the raid), and even I'm surprised by how many are out there. On a Monday night at 9 p.m. I literally counted over 30 of them. You don't get much more visible than that.

Let's keep an eye out to see what direction they target next, if any. And I know it said a lot on here, but you one of the unlikely one and get caught raid or sting... Don't say a thing, nothing you can say will help your case.

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

Originally Posted by nightr

I agree 100% and I think we all can agree the police read this from time to time. They would be stupid not to. That said there's not a whole lot they can do with it, legally speaking.

Honestly, I think over the years, with lack enforcement by Dallas PD AMPs became more relaxed in their security procedures especially with new customers. If the AMPs are smart they will retrain the girls on what not to say to a client. with just a little bit more effort AMPs can make it a lot more different for the police to build a case using undercover officers.

That said I also think CT has a point about them being targeted for blatant visibility to public and refusing to move. If that's truly the case I expect the next target to be all the prostitutes that walk Harry Hines and Walnut Hill night after night. I drive the area frequently (how I stumbled on the raid), and even I'm surprised by how many are out there. On a Monday night at 9 p.m. I literally counted over 30 of them. You don't get much more visible than that.

Let's keep an eye out to see what direction they target next, if any. And I know it said a lot on here, but you one of the unlikely one and get caught raid or sting... Don't say a thing, nothing you can say will help your case.

LE is getting direct intel from these reviews and are viewing them with Premium Access. LE will be creative and innovative in ways to put AMPs out of business. They can use it any way that they see fit. The city of Dallas has launched a campaign against our hobby. Don't let your guard down. Never assume anything. Expect the unexpected.

[BigBamboo]

Here’s the irony of all this sensationalized journalism...

The journalist inferring that all women working in spas are trafficked is a tremendous generalization. However, I spoke recently with an Asian provider who works in a particular Dallas AMP who many of us know. She is free to come and go as she pleases. She also owns a home in the DFW metroplex, but she’s working elsewhere in another state right now because she’s worried about her livelihood being disrupted by these law enforcement zealots. So for the true freedom she did have it is now ripped away from her by FEAR of being victimized by overzealous law enforcement and journalism not the supposed sex traffickers this journalist assumes is running EVERY AMP in Dallas.

[LargeBreastFan]

Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

In the News article it was mentioned about the use of the word "Mamasan" in reviews. That can only mean one thing that LE has Premium Access because "Mamasan" is only used in the ROS of the reviews and not visible to non Premium members. Private tags may be useless at this point. You can bet your bottom dollar that they are sitting in on this board. The Million Dollar question is: Who is it???

Mamasan is used in RubMaps, AMP Reviews, etc.