SA question.

[suspiciouscouch]

Originally Posted by Dino trex

Easy on us fat guys with small dicks

I felt personally attacked.

[tannana]

Originally Posted by spazzer

When I go to SA I want the girl that's exclusive or sees maybe a few a month. Not somebody that does it for a profession.

I think it's adorable you believe you are going to regularly find that. (the ones who tell you "you are the only ones" are a useful thing--it teaches you to spot liars when you are distracted).

Originally Posted by suspiciouscouch

Yeah, it isn't instant pussy. It's pussy farming.

If you do it for a couple of years - not constantly on, but 1 on and 2-3 months off, you'll have a nice list of friends with benefits.

Jesus. You can farm it without pay with the same kind of effort you are expending. And then you move into the pay portion if you want--that sequence of events is this newfangled thing which I'll henceforth refer to as "marriage."

SA, if you want to prey on the young and dumb, is great. 20 (and hell, even 30something) women these days seem to lack dudes of their own age who either have reasonable jobs and/or can hold a reasonable conversation and/or could find the clit with both hands and a map, etc. At some point, however, you are very likely to find yourself at the inevitable and inexorable crossroads of pro-hodom: the transaction part is so that she goes away.

I may be the only person who found SA, absent moving the conversation online, is no different than "farming" pussy "not on" the internet. If you can do one, you should be able to do the other. I found that it doesn't help with the way the whole FWB thing marches out or "reasons why pros are better in bed than dumb civvys" or any of that. YMMV.

[suspiciouscouch]

Originally Posted by tannana

I think it's adorable you believe you are going to regularly find that. (the ones who tell you "you are the only ones" are a useful thing--it teaches you to spot liars when you are distracted).



Jesus. You can farm it without pay with the same kind of effort you are expending. And then you move into the pay portion if you want--that sequence of events is this newfangled thing which I'll henceforth refer to as "marriage."

SA, if you want to prey on the young and dumb, is great. 20 (and hell, even 30something) women these days seem to lack dudes of their own age who either have reasonable jobs and/or can hold a reasonable conversation and/or could find the clit with both hands and a map, etc. At some point, however, you are very likely to find yourself at the inevitable and inexorable crossroads of pro-hodom: the transaction part is so that she goes away.

I may be the only person who found SA, absent moving the conversation online, is no different than "farming" pussy "not on" the internet. If you can do one, you should be able to do the other. I found that it doesn't help with the way the whole FWB thing marches out or "reasons why pros are better in bed than dumb civvys" or any of that. YMMV.

Totally agree with most of what you say here. My thing is that I'd rather do it on the internet for $90 than at a bar, or whatever, because I have some need for discretion, and I think SA is better than hitting on randos. Plus, frankly, I have better game via text.

And maybe I've been fucking the wrong hookers, I've found the range of skill varies as much in the pro community to the amateur one. The $1000 an hour girls are always great, but for $200, you're better with a civilian - in my experience.

Sounds like more SA girls for me and more pros for you. Everyone wins!

[spazzer]

Originally Posted by tannana

I think it's adorable you believe you are going to regularly find that. (the ones who tell you "you are the only ones" are a useful thing--it teaches you to spot liars when you are distracted).



Jesus. You can farm it without pay with the same kind of effort you are expending. And then you move into the pay portion if you want--that sequence of events is this newfangled thing which I'll henceforth refer to as "marriage."

SA, if you want to prey on the young and dumb, is great. 20 (and hell, even 30something) women these days seem to lack dudes of their own age who either have reasonable jobs and/or can hold a reasonable conversation and/or could find the clit with both hands and a map, etc. At some point, however, you are very likely to find yourself at the inevitable and inexorable crossroads of pro-hodom: the transaction part is so that she goes away.

I may be the only person who found SA, absent moving the conversation online, is no different than "farming" pussy "not on" the internet. If you can do one, you should be able to do the other. I found that it doesn't help with the way the whole FWB thing marches out or "reasons why pros are better in bed than dumb civvys" or any of that. YMMV.

Not quite sure of your problem but I've had no problem finding exactly that. Yes, I have to put the time in but I find it. Maybe it's all how you approach it?

[tannana]

Originally Posted by suspiciouscouch

Totally agree with most of what you say here. My thing is that I'd rather do it on the internet for $90 than at a bar, or whatever, because I have some need for discretion, and I think SA is better than hitting on randos. Plus, frankly, I have better game via text.

I dunno. I'm not sure how the text thing gets you in less trouble if stuff goes really bad, but your point is well taken. I think text is just a tad less expressive in subtle ways than one can be in person, but I'm old enough to remember how life was when we had to speak to one another (not just in the hobby, but period).

Originally Posted by suspiciouscouch

And maybe I've been fucking the wrong hookers, I've found the range of skill varies as much in the pro community to the amateur one. The $1000 an hour girls are always great, but for $200, you're better with a civilian - in my experience.

I know some $200 who look good, can fuck you to your exact specification, and who bolt after. I feel like it took less effort and money to find those than it would've on SA or by trolling the real world, but I don't know that for a fact certain. Not disagreeing that $$$$ is no guarantee of quality, but I think it's just as much of a crapshoot (skills wise) on SA (or IRL).

What I have had happen on SA (and IRL, recently) was a couple of bad cases of what I'll charitably refer to as a "disconnected reality" about what was actually happening. Pros don't have that problem (generally)--even ones who you probably throw/get a bone to/from now and then.

Originally Posted by suspiciouscouch

Sounds like more SA girls for me and more pros for you. Everyone wins!

I wouldn't take an unreferred SA find on a dare, these days and honestly, I stick to pros with a very narrow subset of various skills/factors.

Originally Posted by spazzer

Not quite sure of your problem but I've had no problem finding exactly that. Yes, I have to put the time in but I find it. Maybe it's all how you approach it?

You wrote:

Originally Posted by spazzer

When I go to SA I want the girl that's exclusive or sees maybe a few a month. Not somebody that does it for a profession.

And I'm telling you: if a girl is willing to take money from you, for an "arrangement," several things are true:

1. She'll take money from someone else.
2. She'll take money from multiple else's.
3. If someone offers her more than you, you are likely to get bounced (if it is indeed an "arrangement") and
4. If a girl tells you "I'm only seeing you" which, short of stalking her, you'd have to take at face value? She's either lying to you or will be soon.

If you make SA work and you think the time/value tradeoff is worth it? Great! Great thing about the world is there is something for everybody. But, I'd simply be real careful believing your own bias or what you are told if a girl who happily takes your money claims she's only taking yours.

[spazzer]

Tanana...you may think as you wish. Not every girl is as you say or as I say. I have 2 right now that aren't on the site because of the ignorance of men and how they speak.
As far as getting bounced...Im not looking for marriage. Usually 3 months and Im out looking for new. Variety.

[fstballsrus]

Berry Berry you sir are correct. I made the mistake of thinking she was different because she actually had a job. I also wondered why she didn't have a boyfriend. Now I know....just an ill tempered hoodrat and should have been treated as such. An ingrate to boot. Lesson learned. I'm sure she'll have no trouble finding another guy that will pay her not to have sex. At least she told me she could lol

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by tannana

And I'm telling you: if a girl is willing to take money from you, for an "arrangement," several things are true:

1. She'll take money from someone else.
2. She'll take money from multiple else's.
3. If someone offers her more than you, you are likely to get bounced (if it is indeed an "arrangement") and
4. If a girl tells you "I'm only seeing you" which, short of stalking her, you'd have to take at face value? She's either lying to you or will be soon.

You are wrong.

Yes, there are lots of girls on SA just like you describe. Probably the majority I would guess

But there are some others out there that are fine seeing just one guy on a regular basis to help supplement their income.

Different girls have different motivations and needs. You just have to find what you are looking for

And most of my SB finds have not been off SA so they are not out there actively looking for someone else who will offer more,

[Gabrielle]

Originally Posted by berryberry

And most of my SB finds have not been off SA so they are not out there actively looking for someone else who will offer more,

Well yeah, because SA is the only place they can find a hook up?!?

Right?



SA use to be a cool place, years ago. It was full of clients looking for an actual arrangement. We chatted, a lot, before meeting to get an idea of compatibility. We met for dinner and chatted some more. If it moved forward from there...the arrangement was discussed and decided upon before the dick got wet. If there was compatibility in the bedroom, the arrangement proceeded.

As the site gained popularity, more and more only want a one time hook up, but they still wanted all of the convo and time put into an arrangement. No thank you.

[Charley3]

The truth is somewhere in between spazzer and tannana’s argument. I’ve had girls tell me I’m the only one when I KNEW I wasn’t. Hell, one of Dames4u’s finest was on there and she pretended I was it. She didn’t know I saw pics of her on d4u website. Didn’t want to ruin it so I pretended not to know. Lol
I’d say the average sugar babe sees 2-3 guys and lies to all of them. Still far less then a pro, but to assume that girl that you’re seeing isn’t seeing someone else is naive. She’s just doing the same thing you are. But at the end of the day.....who gives a shit!! It’s all good fellas!!!

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Gabrielle

Well yeah, because SA is the only place they can find a hook up?!?

Right?

Did you even read what I wrote before spouting off?
Obviously you did not comprehend it.

Is it so hard to comprehend that every woman is not like you? That there are some out there that are fine seeing just one guy on a regular basis?

I really don't care who they see when they are not with me - and I have seen girls I know who were seeing a couple different guys. But I also know I have seen some who were only seeing me during our arrangement. Is that really that difficult for you to comprehend ?

[Gabrielle]

Yeah I read what you said. And I asked a question.
I never said you were wrong. I never insulted you. I never insulted your intelligence.
I just asked a question. Not sure what your problem is dude.

[berryberry]

Yeah whatever you say

[sexymaid_69]

There are plenty of ladies who are perfectly happy supplementing their income by seeing only 1 or 2 gentleman for some sort of monetary arrangement.
Hell, it's Soo much better than actually dating these days.

I'm sure SA is full of them and they don't believe they're at all "pros" and are true SBs.
However,
As I've repeatedly said in the past, some of you gentlemen review them here as though they are pros.
(While some of you are gentlemen and do not)

This has a couple of repercussions.

Some ladies leave SA out of fear of more reviews and exposure.

Some realize how much the semi pro can earn if y'all believe you're the only one, they then evolve.

It also drives more pros to the site trying the next best thing.


Way back before the internet, cell phones and pagers I knew a true SB.
Every man she was with believed he was the only one paying her rent, utilities, food and entertainment bills...
All 6 of them.
And none of them had a clue about the others because she was just that good.

[Big Stig]

Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

There are plenty of ladies who are perfectly happy supplementing their income by seeing only 1 or 2 gentleman for some sort of monetary arrangement.
Hell, it's Soo much better than actually dating these days.

I'm sure SA is full of them and they don't believe they're at all "pros" and are true SBs.
However,
As I've repeatedly said in the past, some of you gentlemen review them here as though they are pros.
(While some of you are gentlemen and do not)

This has a couple of repercussions.

Some ladies leave SA out of fear of more reviews and exposure.

Some realize how much the semi pro can earn if y'all believe you're the only one, they then evolve.

It also drives more pros to the site trying the next best thing.


Way back before the internet, cell phones and pagers I knew a true SB.
Every man she was with believed he was the only one paying her rent, utilities, food and entertainment bills...
All 6 of them.
And none of them had a clue about the others because she was just that good.

Well said. I've always consistently said that reviews of SA ladies are a bad idea. I've been refuted by those saying they had the lady's approval for the review. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, I don't know or care. But, I do know more than one SA lady that dropped off the site because of unwanted contacts and overwhelming attention due to them being reviewed on escort sites.