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[GinaXXX]

Received another email last night as well, now Im really concern especailly if its true that the other party have CC information. Its getting crazy.

IT'S FAKE!!!!!

Stop feeding the trolls..... as Nicolet so eloquently said.

And remember, I never have and never will send out mass emails. Even if it appears to come from my real address, it will be fake. I do NOT send out mass emails, and this is one of the many reasons why (emails can be spoofed).

Always,
Gina

[slowlick]

People that are receiving these emails should post the header information or the IP address of where the message is coming from.

[Col. Zodiak]

I just wonder how much the troll that took the time to cause all this is feeling about all this? Pretty satisfied, I would say. Just shows that that person does not have much of a life, I would say. So how about we all just move along to other, more important pursuits instead of helping him/her/it/them get more jollies over it all?

And just for the record, GinaXXX is the Gina of Preferred 411 if anyone has any questions about it.



[old Jedi mind trick] Move along, there is nothing to see here [/old Jedi mind trick]

The Colonel

[Wakeup]

People...quit trying to explain it to idiots who will never get it...you can't fix stupid...and if they want to believe every word they get via e-mail, let them...

[Col. Zodiak]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

People...quit trying to explain it to idiots who will never get it...you can't fix stupid...and if they want to believe every word they get via e-mail, let them...

And don't forget, we all have Al Gore to thank for inventing the Internet in the first place.

[bullet0]

Originally Posted by skydiver

Just got another fake email from gina@preferred4ll.com

Yep. That domain was registered a few days ago (10-23) to the same person who registered p-411.com just before the first fake email went out.

I noticed on both these domains he set up forwarding to the real site to try to make these domains look legitimate.

[Capt. Lincoln F. Stern]

Originally Posted by bullet0

I got the same email and forwarded it to Gina at P411. She confirmed that this was NOT something they sent. If you'll notice, the email address had a dash between the P and 411. This domain, p-411.com was registered two days ago. So this looks like some troll either trying to hurt P411 or the hobby in general.

did a "whois" on p-411.com
set up on 18 October
user is _________________
but was registered to an address in Las VEgas, and it its to an apartment number

anyone who wants this info PM me and I can get it to you

[GinaXXX]

Originally Posted by Spirit13

did a "whois" on p-411.com
set up on 18 October
user is _________________
but was registered to an address in Las VEgas, and it its to an apartment number

anyone who wants this info PM me and I can get it to you

It might be a real person, but that name and address is NOT of the person who registered these domains.

Please do not engage in any vigilantism with that information.

The person/people behind this spends their entire life "spoofing" people. You cannot believe anything you see coming from them. I've been dealing with them for years, and they don't deserve any of this attention.

Delete. Ignore. Please. If you feed into the "drama and intrigue", you are just giving them what they want.

Always,
Gina

[Capt. Lincoln F. Stern]

what is weird is the site source indicates that it is pulling the real preferred411.com site up so my guess it is an IP capture.. (not a source code monkey am I) but viewing a web page is not illegal... however, they can compare IP's to emails they might get etc.. to see who is frequent flyers

[GinaXXX]

what is weird is the site source indicates that it is pulling the real preferred411.com site up so my guess it is an IP capture..

When you purchase a domain, you can forward it to ANY existing site you wish. It takes 2 seconds and costs nothing. You do not need to have any real connection to the site you point it to.

I can make any of my sites point to google.com or eccie.net if I want. So it's not strange at all. Please stop feeding the trolls!!

[Capt. Lincoln F. Stern]

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

It might be a real person, but that name and address is NOT of the person who registered these domains.

Please do not engage in any vigilantism with that information.

The person/people behind this spends their entire life "spoofing" people. You cannot believe anything you see coming from them. I've been dealing with them for years, and they don't deserve any of this attention.

Delete. Ignore. Please. If you feed into the "drama and intrigue", you are just giving them what they want.

Always,
Gina

Gina, I have worked for web hosting companies before and large networks.. one of my duties was tracking credit card fraud usage on sites signed up with bogus cards.

the info I speak of is PUBLIC information per say, you just need to know where to look for it. And I am not advocating we go all "vigilante" on them.. but the more you know about your enemies (if that is a good word for it) the better.

Snoop onto them as they snoop onto us I always say.....

Think of it like "client research" you check the backgrounds etc of a client before you see him.... well this is the same.. the info is just that.. info..

once you use it for other than informing you then you have crossed the line.

[Guest013121]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

People...quit trying to explain it to idiots who will never get it...you can't fix stupid...and if they want to believe every word they get via e-mail, let them...

+1million

[jframe2]

To be honest, this whole breach of security makes me think twice about p411. It is a pretty basic set of in-house protocols to prevent this type of data-theft.

I also know that a determined employee can get just about any data they want, given enough time and that I am sure there is more to the story than what has been released to us. And that is fine.

As with most company thefts, I am sure safety procedures will be in place from now on.

But this is just me, who happens to work in data management industry.

[bullet0]

Originally Posted by jframe2

To be honest, this whole breach of security makes me think twice about p411. It is a pretty basic set of in-house protocols to prevent this type of data-theft.

I also know that a determined employee can get just about any data they want, given enough time and that I am sure there is more to the story than what has been released to us. And that is fine.

As with most company thefts, I am sure safety procedures will be in place from now on.

But this is just me, who happens to work in data management industry.

Did I miss something? The "employee theft" was another spoofed email. As far as I know, no one really knows where the distribution list originated.

[guest100913]

@bullet0: No, you did not miss anything.

jframe, listen carefully... Nothing was stolen from P411. It is a FAKE, a HOAX, a RUSE, perpetrated by haters of P411 and ECCIE !!!