The Israeli/Hamas conflict

[Chase7]

Originally Posted by chizzy

show me where i "personally" insulted you... you cant because I didnt

noone on this site whines more than you about getting points

again yuri would be proud........

You described that person as a mature adult. This person tried to control others with false accusations, is that point worthy.

For some reason some simply won’t except another persons point of view then try to get them banned. This is why so many don’t post anymore, I know I don’t like I used to.
You made a comment then this person simply wants you banned because your view/thought does not agree with theirs.

I’ve simply moved on from commenting do to the likes of describing Trump and others as “turds” ect.
You did not insult this person in any way, it was simply banter.

[Dr-epg]

Gentlemen it’s time to get back on topic please

[HDGristle]

There are hardline elements in Israel using the tragedy to justify atrocious actions. Hamas doesn't veil their hatred for Jews at all. We don't need to recount the horrors abd atrocities. And the blood keeps flowing. And it's all over hands on both sides.

For the sake of the Isrseli people and the Palestinians, something significant needs to change.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

When the vast majority of people who you kill are civilians it's not collateral damage. It's collective punishment. It's a war crime according to the Geneva Convention.

You are the poster child for exactly who my original post on this thread was thinking of. You don’t like extremism on the right, but it’s becoming more obvious you are a far left extremist. Doubt you would admit it, but I’m assuming you support the people tearing down the pictures of kidnapped men, women and children.
Your line of thinking may put Trump in office!! A vast majority, including me, resent your strategy, whatever the hell it would be, to fight terrorists. I guess do nothing when they rape and kill your civilians.

[1pittsburgh]

What Isreael is doing absolutely fits the definition of collective punishment as defined by the Geneva Convention. What's extreme about saying that? What's extreme is killing over 12,000 Palestinian civilians. What's extreme is killing over 4000 Palestinian children. You support that, but call me extreme? Interesting.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

What Isreael is doing absolutely fits the definition of collective punishment as defined by the Geneva Convention. What's extreme about saying that? What's extreme is killing over 12,000 Palestinian civilians. What's extreme is killing over 4000 Palestinian children. You support that, but call me extreme? Interesting.

how would you classify what Hamas did?


thank you valued poster.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

When the vast majority of people who you kill are civilians it's not collateral damage. It's collective punishment. It's a war crime according to the Geneva Convention.

Hamas intentionally killed women and children. is that a war crime? at the least. it's really a crime against humanity.



you do know that Hamas militants recorded their attack and the Israelis have captured a lot of it yes? they did. and the liberal antisemitic types don't want anyone to see it.


one wonders why?


Gal Gadot’s screening of Hamas terror attack film ends in mass brawls between pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian protesters

https://nypost.com/2023/11/09/news/b...ts-hamas-film/

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

What happened 2000 years ago is highly debatable, but what is not debatable is that after WWII, the COUNTRY Israel was formed, many Europeans migrated there, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost their homes in the Nakba, and many more have lost their homes since then.

What's also not debatable is that several hundred members of Hamas committed heinous acts on October 7th, killing over 1200 mostly civilian Israelis, and since then, Israel has used that to justify the heinous act of killing over 11,000 mostly civilian Palestinians, and to justify destroying the homes of up to 40% of the Palestinians.

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

You're talking about the actions of a couple hundred people. As heinous as those actions are, and I've said repeatedly that they are heinous, they don't justify killing thousands of children, nor do they justify killing 12,000 people, who are mostly civilians. That's called collective punishment, and it's considered a war crime, according to Article 33 of the fourth Geneva Convention. People who support that are supporting war crimes.

I've already condemned those actions as heinous multiple times in this thread. Of course they were extreme actions. Try reading what I've said before you address me. Unlike you, I don't have a problem with condemning all war crimes when they happen.


I want all of the truth to be seen, including what happened to the innocent Israelis, and what's happening more than ten fold to the innocent Palestinians.


Liberal anti Semitic types? What's anti Semitic about opposing the actions of the country Israel? Is it Islamaphobic to oppose the actions of the country Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia?

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by chizzy

lets see, you stated israel is a terrorist nation and if they had their way,they would wipe out the palestinians

show any of us where you can find the goverment of israel stating that............... you wont and cant

Well, the Prime Minister of Israel displayed a map of his vision for the future of the region, and that map wiped out the West Bank, East Jerusalem, or Gaza. He made his intentions clear to any reasonable person who's not in denial. His vision is one of Eretz Yisrael.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/netanyahu-map

[Chase7]

You can Thank Obama and his Puppet Biden for this, Afghanistan, Ukraine and possibly Taiwan in the future.
Giving Billions to Iran to fund terrorist, missiles for Russia to use against Ukraine.
Taking brides from China, Ukraine to look the other way and act like they (Obama and him) have nothing in any of this.

[chizzy]

Lol commondreams. U nailed it and showed urself

Common dreams is a pro communist/socialist site

The author is as left as u can go

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by chizzy

Lol commondreams. U nailed it and showed urself

Common dreams is a pro communist/socialist site

The author is as left as u can go

Chizzy, are you saying that Prime Minister BM did not show a map of his vision for the future of the region, a map which did not include Gaza, West Bank, or East Jerusalem? You'd be denying a basic fact.



Do you prefer an Israeli source?https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...-at-un-speech/


How about this stuff from prominent Israelis that you conveniently ignored?

In March of this year, Far-right minister Bezalel Smotrich, one of the most senior members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government, said that Israel should “wipe out” the Palestinian town of Huwara in the West Bank.


Zvika Fogel, close political ally of National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir said earlier this year: “I want to restore security for the residents of the State of Israel,” Fogel told Galey Israel Radio. “How do we do that? We stop using the word ‘proportionality’. We stop with our objection to collective punishment [just] because it doesn’t fly with all sorts of courts. We take the gloves off.”
He concluded: “A closed, burned Huwara; that’s what I want to see. That’s the only way to achieve deterrence. After a murder like yesterday’s, we need burning villages when the [Israel Defence Forces] don’t act.”

There are a bunch of high ranking Israelis who would love to wipe the Palestinians off of the map, and complete their vision.

[1pittsburgh]

Anyone want to double or triple down on their support of Israel killing over 5000 Palestinian children in the past month and a half? The truth is undeniable and the world is waking up to it.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Anyone want to double or triple down on their support of Israel killing over 5000 Palestinian children in the past month and a half? The truth is undeniable and the world is waking up to it.

I will. Don’t trust your version of the truth, But your opinion is noted. And again, when you kill women and children, then you hide behind women and children you leave no option.
Thank you for making my original point.

To my fellow republicans, this is the type of thinking that needs exposed and used to our advantage. Just need to get the Trumpers out of Orange Turds spell and we may be able to win come 2024.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Charley3

I will. Don’t trust your version of the truth, But your opinion is noted. And again, when you kill women and children, then you hide behind women and children you leave no option.
Thank you for making my original point.

To my fellow republicans, this is the type of thinking that needs exposed and used to our advantage. Just need to get the Trumpers out of Orange Turds spell and we may be able to win come 2024.

As long as Twitler commands the mob, the Republican Party will continue to fail.

Call the opposition whatever label du jour is popular among the GOP hopeful. But the GOPs real opposition to virtually everything - including the Middle East - is the cult of trump.