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Charley3 · 12-10-2023, 03:05 PM

Be an interesting next few months in Steelerworld. Our offense is so offensive anything is and should be possible.

chizzy · 12-10-2023, 09:26 PM

browns bring out old man flacco and he throws for over 300 yards and 3 tds

our guy cant even hit 200 yards and throws one interception and should have been 3.............

our season is over, might as well throw mason in there,maybe he will shine the rest of the season and be a good trade bait since tomlin has no love for him........

the team is stale, especially the coaching staff, its time for a change

Chase7 · 12-11-2023, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley3

Im not a Tomlin fan but he will be in the hall of fame. Circumstances sure do help. he doesn’t sniff it without Ben, but most successful coaches have a HOF QB. But the longer he’s around the worse it gets. Cowhers 8-8 year was Ben’s motorcycle accident and appendix being removed. He won a Super Bowl 2 years prior.
Tomlin inherited Dick Lebeow and Bruce Arians as his coordinators. WTF has Tomlin hired since then? What is the reason he has absolutely zero coaches that he has hired that moved on to head coach. That’s actually hard to do for 15 years. Sheesh.
Like Bill Walsh said a head coach should never stay more than 10 years. This is enough.

You’ve hit the nail on the head with the coaches Tomlin had.

Some here want to lay blame for the Steelers present failures on the present QB’s.

The blame is Tomlin’s fear of another coach on the team capable of replacing him, some may call this living in his fears, a phrase Tomlin has used over the years.
Tomlin had regular playoff appearances when he had a very good coaching staff that was handed to him. His replacement coaches is all on him.

Tomlin had a hall of fame QB for 15 years of his 17 with only two Super Bowl appearances.
Saying the reason Tomlin is losing now is not do solely not having a good QB. It’s on Tomlin, his coaching staff and drafts.
The losing is all on him.

tommy156 · 12-11-2023, 10:57 AM

The losing is not "all on him". Kenny sucks, in case you've been living in a cave since 2021.

I'm not happy about Tomlin's last few years either, but you can't polish a turd. We don't have a real QB in Pittsburgh right now. Not even Belichick could take this shit heap to a Super Bowl.

Charley3 · 12-11-2023, 05:48 PM

I hated Tomlins take today on his diva receivers. Saying it’s in large part to losing. Bullshit, tell Diva 1 and Diva 2 to stop your pouting and taking plays off or I’ll let Mincah kick your ass. Which I hope happens.
Neither one should be on the roster next year but I guarantee you if Tomlin is here they will be. A terrible culture. There is no excuse for taking plays off. Immature A-holes that need a strong punishment, which Tomlin won’t give.

Salty Again · 12-11-2023, 10:24 PM

... Agreed on that, Char... Antonio Brown was a "diva"
when the team was WINNING! ... Stop yer cryin' and just play ball!

The Constant Comment that I h--- Crikey! May be time for tea.

Lemme try again - the constant comment that I hear is that
Tomlin has surely "grown stale" in both his coaching style
and his game-plan execution. ... No real upside in retaining him.
Sorry to say.

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Charley3 · 12-13-2023, 10:45 AM

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...triots-options

I’m just dropping this link for the “Tomlin deserves more time” crowd. Belichick has how many SB wins??

tommy156 · 12-14-2023, 05:50 PM

Drafting Pickett will prove to be the straw that broke the camel's back for Tomlin.

Rooney has already shown he'll cave into fan pressure, so Tomlin will probably be gone after this year, and Kenny will remain (the exact opposite of what should happen).

Go ahead, fire Tomlin, but the team will continue to be mediocre for as long as Pickett in QB1. Not even Belichick could win playoff games with him.

Charley3 · 12-16-2023, 09:29 PM

Same old movie.
Bob Pompiani/ Chris Hoke mentioned lack of effort again for our receivers. How a team can allow repeated lack of effort is insane to me.
Our weak media better ask this question Tuesday!
Inexcusable culture.

Salty Again · 12-17-2023, 12:49 AM

... To be fair... Looks like "play calling" may not be the problem.
What do I see? ... Players that look LOST. No idea what they
should be doing.

And it also looks to me that Kenny is actually BETTER than Mitch.
How Sad.

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Chase7 · 12-17-2023, 08:45 AM

All they need to do is draft a franchise QB then they’ll compete for the Super Bowl every year. Sarcasm for those that don’t get it.
Wonder what the cause was when Tomlin had one for 15 years, only 2 Super Bowl appearances. No playoff wins in the last 7 years 5 with a Hall of Fame QB.

Should he have drafted a running back in the first round, WR & TE in the second when both lines needed talent.
How about Porter in the 2nd, looking like bust against good receivers. What about Mt Washington, he’s done nothing.
His punter is a disgrace but he sticks with a terrible punter because he won’t admit a mistake.
Why not sit Pickens and Johnson for their self serving not team play, they was going to lose anyway. You know damn well most of the other players don’t like their self serving diva play.

Most of us felt two years ago Trubisky wasn’t the answer Tomlin in his infinite wisdom struck with him until two minutes left in the game, more Tomlin wisdom.
Truly insulting to Trubisky and Rudolph.

I’ll repeat. Tomlin pulling Trubisky and putting Rudolph in with two minutes left with no chance of winning is insulting to both players and the rest of the team, disgraceful.

What a team, community builder and spokesperson wearing the fing top he had on.
Fing politics over the team and the fans. If he was asked to wear that he should have declined. Again disgraceful.

Iceman · 12-17-2023, 09:14 AM

I believe Tomlin is done in Pittsburgh. I hope he's not ruining any return the Steelers could get for him in a trade.

Part of me thinks that Rooney already told Tomlin that there will be major changes which will be out of Tomlin's control. Because of this Tomlin is not committed to the team and wants out.

chizzy · 12-17-2023, 10:44 AM

Unless a change in coaching can so.ehow put a system in that elavates Kenny's play making, he is a bust. Tomlin is stale, it happens just like it did for cowher. Time for a complete overhaul

Salty Again · 12-17-2023, 01:18 PM

... Too right on everything, mates.

I'm mostly a "hold the barrack" fellow, and will be so until
our play-off chance is finished, but NOW gonna need to "WIN OUT"!
And THAT starts next Saturday!

Though I surely gotta wonder just HOW LOUD those "TOMLIN SUCKS!"
chants will be. ...

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tommy156 · 12-17-2023, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chizzy

Unless a change in coaching can somehow put a system in that elavates Kenny's play making, he is a bust. Tomlin is stale, it happens just like it did for cowher. Time for a complete overhaul

Agreed. Kenny wouldn't be doing any better under Cowher, though it's possible with a guy like Andy Reid or McDaniel down in Miami.

My gut says if you're going for a complete overhaul, Kenny needs to be thrown out with the rest of the trash. Total bust.