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02-22-2015, 01:03 AM
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You've been lyingly misrepresenting Mr. Lamb's position your whole, miserable little life, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, because it's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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02-22-2015, 09:45 AM
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#482
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You're a demonstrable liar, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp. It's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
You should read Harold Lamb book on the Crusades and get some background.
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Harold Lamb's books on the crusades relates it quite different than that.
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You, more likely than not, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, did not understand what Lamb wrote.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Notice your fallback position is to ignore anything concerning Harold Lamb...
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Lamb wrote 23 fiction and 20 non fiction books was a student of Asia spoke French,Latin, Persian,Arabic, and a smattering of Mancho-Tarter. Just because he wrote something contrary to what you want to hear tough shit. Bet you discount the Bible because it was written a while back.
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Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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"FOR two centuries of the thousand-year strife between Islam and Christianity, the cross-bearers carried the war into Asia. They fortified themselves beyond the sea, making the valley of the Jordan the front line of Christendom. At the end of the two centuries they were driven out of this front line, because they were left without support in the face of the new Moslem forces drawn from central Asia. Counter-attacks launched from Europe failed to recover this ground, and in the next centuries the Moslem attack swept on over the Mediterranean and into eastern Europe. The crusaders sacrificed themselves in taking and holding that front line. While they were on the Jordan, the rest of Europe except in Spain, where the crusaders also appeared before long was safe from Moslem aggression. And after the crusaders were wiped out, the experience gained in their wars, the new weapons and lessons learned in strategy and in fortification, and especially the new fleets built up during the crusades, aided in the preservation of Europe when Christendom was placed on the defensive.
"So, as a military venture in that long war, the crusades gained much. The loss was in the sacrifice of lives and wealth the gain in experience, so says the soldier.
"With all this the scoffer will not agree. And just at present he is very much in fashion. He sees in the crusades a waste of hundreds of thousands of lives, and uncounted wealth. He reminds us that the first cross-bearers ate human flesh at need and stained their swords by savage massacres. And that later, adventurers and plunderers filled their ranks. It seems to him that these men set out to be saints and ended by being devils. He decries the whole thing as a failure. The scoffer, however, is weighing men of the Twelfth Century in scales of the Twentieth. If he had lived when the crusaders lived, he would have known:
That other men as well had eaten human flesh at need.
That the crusaders ceased the massacres after the first onrush, when they had settled in Outremer and thereafter the mamluks, for example, equaled the worst of their deeds....
That the venturesome crusaders instead of looking for fortunes in the East sold or mortgaged their property at home in order to journey into the East, and gained little thereby.... "For to their own dark age the crusaders brought the fire of unselfish purpose. Around this fire they drew men from all lands centuries before the first alliance of peoples in our modern world. And by this light they went out into the unknown regions centuries before Europe could send forth its colonists.
"And this spirit of the crusades was not in the world before they came, and it has not appeared again, after their passing.
"No words of ours can alter what these men did the best or the worst of them who followed a star. They drained the cup of devotion, and if they tasted the dregs of shame, they knew also the exaltation of victory. They reached the summit of daring.
"And the memory of that will endure long after our own workaday lives are ended."
(pp. 465-66, The Crusades: The Flame of Islam, 1930, by Harold Lamb).
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02-22-2015, 12:50 PM
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Isn't a LAMB a forbidden topic?
You've done it again, IBIdiot. Congrats!
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02-23-2015, 12:31 AM
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#484
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
You're a demonstrable liar, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp. It's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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02-23-2015, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
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You're still lying and misrepresenting Mr. Lamb's position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, because it's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
You should read Harold Lamb book on the Crusades and get some background.
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Harold Lamb's books on the crusades relates it quite different than that.
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You, more likely than not, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, did not understand what Lamb wrote.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Notice your fallback position is to ignore anything concerning Harold Lamb...
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Lamb wrote 23 fiction and 20 non fiction books was a student of Asia spoke French,Latin, Persian,Arabic, and a smattering of Mancho-Tarter. Just because he wrote something contrary to what you want to hear tough shit. Bet you discount the Bible because it was written a while back.
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Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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"FOR two centuries of the thousand-year strife between Islam and Christianity, the cross-bearers carried the war into Asia. They fortified themselves beyond the sea, making the valley of the Jordan the front line of Christendom. At the end of the two centuries they were driven out of this front line, because they were left without support in the face of the new Moslem forces drawn from central Asia. Counter-attacks launched from Europe failed to recover this ground, and in the next centuries the Moslem attack swept on over the Mediterranean and into eastern Europe. The crusaders sacrificed themselves in taking and holding that front line. While they were on the Jordan, the rest of Europe except in Spain, where the crusaders also appeared before long was safe from Moslem aggression. And after the crusaders were wiped out, the experience gained in their wars, the new weapons and lessons learned in strategy and in fortification, and especially the new fleets built up during the crusades, aided in the preservation of Europe when Christendom was placed on the defensive.
"So, as a military venture in that long war, the crusades gained much. The loss was in the sacrifice of lives and wealth the gain in experience, so says the soldier.
"With all this the scoffer will not agree. And just at present he is very much in fashion. He sees in the crusades a waste of hundreds of thousands of lives, and uncounted wealth. He reminds us that the first cross-bearers ate human flesh at need and stained their swords by savage massacres. And that later, adventurers and plunderers filled their ranks. It seems to him that these men set out to be saints and ended by being devils. He decries the whole thing as a failure. The scoffer, however, is weighing men of the Twelfth Century in scales of the Twentieth. If he had lived when the crusaders lived, he would have known:
That other men as well had eaten human flesh at need.
That the crusaders ceased the massacres after the first onrush, when they had settled in Outremer and thereafter the mamluks, for example, equaled the worst of their deeds....
That the venturesome crusaders instead of looking for fortunes in the East sold or mortgaged their property at home in order to journey into the East, and gained little thereby.... "For to their own dark age the crusaders brought the fire of unselfish purpose. Around this fire they drew men from all lands centuries before the first alliance of peoples in our modern world. And by this light they went out into the unknown regions centuries before Europe could send forth its colonists.
"And this spirit of the crusades was not in the world before they came, and it has not appeared again, after their passing.
"No words of ours can alter what these men did the best or the worst of them who followed a star. They drained the cup of devotion, and if they tasted the dregs of shame, they knew also the exaltation of victory. They reached the summit of daring.
"And the memory of that will endure long after our own workaday lives are ended."
(pp. 465-66, The Crusades: The Flame of Islam, 1930, by Harold Lamb).
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Isn't a LAMB a forbidden topic?
You've done it again, IBIdiot. Congrats!
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You're the one with the perverted thoughts that went there, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.
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02-24-2015, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
You're still lying and misrepresenting Mr. Lamb's position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, because it's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
You're the one with the perverted thoughts that went there, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.
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02-24-2015, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
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You're the one with the perverted thoughts that went there, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.
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Who brought a it up. IBIdiot?
You did.
pervocreep!
and a documented LYING MotherFucker!
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02-24-2015, 01:07 AM
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You lied more than twenty times, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, and you're still lying when you continue to misrepresent Mr. Lamb's position as you've done your entire, miserable little life, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp. It's very obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
You should read Harold Lamb book on the Crusades and get some background.
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Harold Lamb's books on the crusades relates it quite different than that.
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You, more likely than not, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, did not understand what Lamb wrote.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Notice your fallback position is to ignore anything concerning Harold Lamb...
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Lamb wrote 23 fiction and 20 non fiction books was a student of Asia spoke French,Latin, Persian,Arabic, and a smattering of Mancho-Tarter. Just because he wrote something contrary to what you want to hear tough shit. Bet you discount the Bible because it was written a while back.
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Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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"FOR two centuries of the thousand-year strife between Islam and Christianity, the cross-bearers carried the war into Asia. They fortified themselves beyond the sea, making the valley of the Jordan the front line of Christendom. At the end of the two centuries they were driven out of this front line, because they were left without support in the face of the new Moslem forces drawn from central Asia. Counter-attacks launched from Europe failed to recover this ground, and in the next centuries the Moslem attack swept on over the Mediterranean and into eastern Europe. The crusaders sacrificed themselves in taking and holding that front line. While they were on the Jordan, the rest of Europe except in Spain, where the crusaders also appeared before long was safe from Moslem aggression. And after the crusaders were wiped out, the experience gained in their wars, the new weapons and lessons learned in strategy and in fortification, and especially the new fleets built up during the crusades, aided in the preservation of Europe when Christendom was placed on the defensive.
"So, as a military venture in that long war, the crusades gained much. The loss was in the sacrifice of lives and wealth the gain in experience, so says the soldier.
"With all this the scoffer will not agree. And just at present he is very much in fashion. He sees in the crusades a waste of hundreds of thousands of lives, and uncounted wealth. He reminds us that the first cross-bearers ate human flesh at need and stained their swords by savage massacres. And that later, adventurers and plunderers filled their ranks. It seems to him that these men set out to be saints and ended by being devils. He decries the whole thing as a failure. The scoffer, however, is weighing men of the Twelfth Century in scales of the Twentieth. If he had lived when the crusaders lived, he would have known:
That other men as well had eaten human flesh at need.
That the crusaders ceased the massacres after the first onrush, when they had settled in Outremer and thereafter the mamluks, for example, equaled the worst of their deeds....
That the venturesome crusaders instead of looking for fortunes in the East sold or mortgaged their property at home in order to journey into the East, and gained little thereby.... "For to their own dark age the crusaders brought the fire of unselfish purpose. Around this fire they drew men from all lands centuries before the first alliance of peoples in our modern world. And by this light they went out into the unknown regions centuries before Europe could send forth its colonists.
"And this spirit of the crusades was not in the world before they came, and it has not appeared again, after their passing.
"No words of ours can alter what these men did the best or the worst of them who followed a star. They drained the cup of devotion, and if they tasted the dregs of shame, they knew also the exaltation of victory. They reached the summit of daring.
"And the memory of that will endure long after our own workaday lives are ended."
(pp. 465-66, The Crusades: The Flame of Islam, 1930, by Harold Lamb).
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Who brought a it up. IBIdiot?
You did.
pervocreep!
and a documented LYING MotherFucker!
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You're lying again, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, and the proof that you are lying is in the very post you quoted, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.
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02-25-2015, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
You lied more than twenty times, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, and you're still lying when you continue to misrepresent Mr. Lamb's position as you've done your entire, miserable little life, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp. It's very obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
You're lying again, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, and the proof that you are lying is in the very post you quoted, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.
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02-25-2015, 12:18 AM
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Tradition has it that the Crusaders probably ate fish on Fridays, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp. Meanwhile, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, you've been lying every day of the week by misrepresenting Mr. Lamb's actual position your whole, miserable little life, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, because it's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
You should read Harold Lamb book on the Crusades and get some background.
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Harold Lamb's books on the crusades relates it quite different than that.
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You, more likely than not, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, did not understand what Lamb wrote.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Notice your fallback position is to ignore anything concerning Harold Lamb...
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Lamb wrote 23 fiction and 20 non fiction books was a student of Asia spoke French,Latin, Persian,Arabic, and a smattering of Mancho-Tarter. Just because he wrote something contrary to what you want to hear tough shit. Bet you discount the Bible because it was written a while back.
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Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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"FOR two centuries of the thousand-year strife between Islam and Christianity, the cross-bearers carried the war into Asia. They fortified themselves beyond the sea, making the valley of the Jordan the front line of Christendom. At the end of the two centuries they were driven out of this front line, because they were left without support in the face of the new Moslem forces drawn from central Asia. Counter-attacks launched from Europe failed to recover this ground, and in the next centuries the Moslem attack swept on over the Mediterranean and into eastern Europe. The crusaders sacrificed themselves in taking and holding that front line. While they were on the Jordan, the rest of Europe except in Spain, where the crusaders also appeared before long was safe from Moslem aggression. And after the crusaders were wiped out, the experience gained in their wars, the new weapons and lessons learned in strategy and in fortification, and especially the new fleets built up during the crusades, aided in the preservation of Europe when Christendom was placed on the defensive.
"So, as a military venture in that long war, the crusades gained much. The loss was in the sacrifice of lives and wealth the gain in experience, so says the soldier.
"With all this the scoffer will not agree. And just at present he is very much in fashion. He sees in the crusades a waste of hundreds of thousands of lives, and uncounted wealth. He reminds us that the first cross-bearers ate human flesh at need and stained their swords by savage massacres. And that later, adventurers and plunderers filled their ranks. It seems to him that these men set out to be saints and ended by being devils. He decries the whole thing as a failure. The scoffer, however, is weighing men of the Twelfth Century in scales of the Twentieth. If he had lived when the crusaders lived, he would have known:
That other men as well had eaten human flesh at need.
That the crusaders ceased the massacres after the first onrush, when they had settled in Outremer and thereafter the mamluks, for example, equaled the worst of their deeds....
That the venturesome crusaders instead of looking for fortunes in the East sold or mortgaged their property at home in order to journey into the East, and gained little thereby.... "For to their own dark age the crusaders brought the fire of unselfish purpose. Around this fire they drew men from all lands centuries before the first alliance of peoples in our modern world. And by this light they went out into the unknown regions centuries before Europe could send forth its colonists.
"And this spirit of the crusades was not in the world before they came, and it has not appeared again, after their passing.
"No words of ours can alter what these men did the best or the worst of them who followed a star. They drained the cup of devotion, and if they tasted the dregs of shame, they knew also the exaltation of victory. They reached the summit of daring.
"And the memory of that will endure long after our own workaday lives are ended."
(pp. 465-66, The Crusades: The Flame of Islam, 1930, by Harold Lamb).
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02-25-2015, 12:50 PM
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Once again, you are engaging in the same tactics as your adversary, yet claiming to be above him.
You look just as stupid as he does.
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02-25-2015, 03:22 PM
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Once again, you are engaging in the same tactics as your adversary, yet claiming to be above him.
You look just as stupid as he does.
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Any skin off your butt? Fuck off I am having fun.
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02-26-2015, 08:07 AM
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Tradition has it that the Crusaders probably ate fish on Fridays, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp. Meanwhile, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, you've been lying every day of the week by misrepresenting Mr. Lamb's actual position your whole, miserable little life, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, because it's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
Meanwhile, this is what Mr. Lamb actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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02-26-2015, 08:53 AM
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I remember IBIdiot being admonished for repeating the same post over and over and over and over again, 23 times thus far in this epic thread. He's now moved past sounding like a broken record and gone totally Rain Man.
Actually, he sounds like Goebbels, repeating the same stuff until people believed his BIG LIE. It won't work here because the rest of the Idiot Klan, err, Clan brothers have abandoned him and hewon't convince anybody else he's anything but fucking nuts (and God knows what else).
You'd think by now he'd be sanctioned or warned and have left in a late-model HUFF.
We can only hope.
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02-26-2015, 09:04 AM
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It's indeed laughable, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, how you lied and misrepresented Mr. Lamb's actual position your whole, pathetic little life, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, because it's obvious Mr. Lamb has, and always did have, a contemptuous view of your stupid -- "the scoffer's" -- position, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
You should read Harold Lamb book on the Crusades and get some background.
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Harold Lamb's books on the crusades relates it quite different than that.
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You, more likely than not, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp, did not understand what Lamb wrote.
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Notice your fallback position is to ignore anything concerning Harold Lamb...
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Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Lamb wrote 23 fiction and 20 non fiction books was a student of Asia spoke French,Latin, Persian,Arabic, and a smattering of Mancho-Tarter. Just because he wrote something contrary to what you want to hear tough shit. Bet you discount the Bible because it was written a while back.
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Despite your lying claims, this is what YOUR noted historian, Mr. Lamb, actually wrote, Stumpy the Inbred Chimp:
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"FOR two centuries of the thousand-year strife between Islam and Christianity, the cross-bearers carried the war into Asia. They fortified themselves beyond the sea, making the valley of the Jordan the front line of Christendom. At the end of the two centuries they were driven out of this front line, because they were left without support in the face of the new Moslem forces drawn from central Asia. Counter-attacks launched from Europe failed to recover this ground, and in the next centuries the Moslem attack swept on over the Mediterranean and into eastern Europe. The crusaders sacrificed themselves in taking and holding that front line. While they were on the Jordan, the rest of Europe except in Spain, where the crusaders also appeared before long was safe from Moslem aggression. And after the crusaders were wiped out, the experience gained in their wars, the new weapons and lessons learned in strategy and in fortification, and especially the new fleets built up during the crusades, aided in the preservation of Europe when Christendom was placed on the defensive.
"So, as a military venture in that long war, the crusades gained much. The loss was in the sacrifice of lives and wealth the gain in experience, so says the soldier.
"With all this the scoffer will not agree. And just at present he is very much in fashion. He sees in the crusades a waste of hundreds of thousands of lives, and uncounted wealth. He reminds us that the first cross-bearers ate human flesh at need and stained their swords by savage massacres. And that later, adventurers and plunderers filled their ranks. It seems to him that these men set out to be saints and ended by being devils. He decries the whole thing as a failure. The scoffer, however, is weighing men of the Twelfth Century in scales of the Twentieth. If he had lived when the crusaders lived, he would have known:
That other men as well had eaten human flesh at need.
That the crusaders ceased the massacres after the first onrush, when they had settled in Outremer and thereafter the mamluks, for example, equaled the worst of their deeds....
That the venturesome crusaders instead of looking for fortunes in the East sold or mortgaged their property at home in order to journey into the East, and gained little thereby.... "For to their own dark age the crusaders brought the fire of unselfish purpose. Around this fire they drew men from all lands centuries before the first alliance of peoples in our modern world. And by this light they went out into the unknown regions centuries before Europe could send forth its colonists.
"And this spirit of the crusades was not in the world before they came, and it has not appeared again, after their passing.
"No words of ours can alter what these men did the best or the worst of them who followed a star. They drained the cup of devotion, and if they tasted the dregs of shame, they knew also the exaltation of victory. They reached the summit of daring.
"And the memory of that will endure long after our own workaday lives are ended."
(pp. 465-66, The Crusades: The Flame of Islam, 1930, by Harold Lamb).
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I remember IBIdiot being admonished for repeating the same post over and over and over and over again, 23 times thus far in this epic thread. He's now moved past sounding like a broken record and one totally Rain Man.
You'd think by now he'd be sanctioned or warned and have left in a late-model HUFF.
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Says the Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM that used the same eponymous epithet almost 1300 times; thus, earning it its title three years running:
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