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Old 12-28-2012, 12:28 PM   #451
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I'm sorry, but the mother should have had her guns locked up. She had an unstable boy, I mean man in her house. Of course no one believes your family members are capable of doing such a horrific thing, but if I was that mother, I would have had all knives and guns locked up, even if to prevent him from hurting himself. But she didn't. She was lax and irresponsible, IMO.
Tatiana,
I absolutely agree with you, but we do not know what the situation was. The guns may very well have been locked up, and he stole the key...
We do not have all the facts, and I cannot condemn this woman for negligence until I do.
I had asked this question in an earlier post. To my knowledge it has yet to be verified by LE, what the circumstances surrounding these guns was.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:50 PM   #452
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well its looking like sister died with her guns, and looking like a female neighbor that lost her home in this gave the guns to him. Ya ones just like sister owned. I thinkin few more days before the story be right from the local news. drive by national news already gone. They got what they wanted, "it was a BushMaster". Ya the BushMaster did it.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:50 PM   #453
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Amazing how the national media doesn't report on THIS story.

Man Attempts to Open Fire on Crowd at Movie Theater, Armed Off-Duty Sergeant Drops Him (UPDATED)



Update: WOAI now reports it was an off-duty sergeant who fired a total of four shots, wounding the shooter. An Initial report by 1200 WOAI news said that an off-duty sheriff’s deputy shot the suspect one time.
The Bexar County Sheriff’s Office says the off-duty sergeant, who was working security, heard the gunshots and came running. She saw the gunman coming out of the men’s restroom. The Sheriff’s Office says the gunman did not shoot at her, but his gun was drawn so she opened fire.
That off-duty sergeant, identified as Lisa Castellano, fired four times, wounding the gunman. Only one other person was wounded, a 49-year-old man inside the theater, who was hit by one of the gunman’s shots. Both are expected to recover.
Investigators say about 30 rounds were fired. It’s unclear why the break-up with his girlfriend caused the man to go after his co-workers. Investigators haven’t ruled out a love-triangle involving someone else at the restaurant.
With one shot, an off-duty sergeant took down a gunman who attempted to opened fire at a crowded movie theater lobby during a late night showing of “The Hobbit” in San Antonio, 1200 WOAI news reports.
Police say a gunman, identified as Jesus Manuel Garcia, chased patrons from the nearby China Garden Restaurant into the lobby of the Santikos Mayan 14 movie theater at around 9 p.m. on Sunday. Garcia, an employee of the restaurant, reportedly walked in the establishment looking for a woman.

When the woman, also reportedly a restaurant employee, wasn’t there, Garcia pulled out a gun and attempted to open fire in the restaurant but his weapon jammed.
“It started at the restaurant and then went into the parking lot and then into the movie theater,” Deputy Lou Antu told 1200 WOAI news.
The commotion sent horrified restaurant patrons into the movie theater lobby, but the gunman followed. He again attempted to open fire, and this time his gun didn’t jam. Garcia reportedly shot one man in the chest before Antu says an off-duty sheriff’s sergeant working security the theater shot him once, dropping him to the floor.
Bexar County sheriff’s Sgt. Lisa Castellano reportedly chased the gunman toward the back of the theater. The 13-year department veteran cornered him after he ran into a men’s restroom and shot him before taking his gun.
“The officer involved, she took the appropriate action to try to keep everyone safe in the movie theater,” Antu added.
Due to the off-duty sergeant’s bravery, the gunman was not able to make it into the theater where he could have potentially taken many lives.
Police question a man near the Mayan Theater after an incident late Sunday, Dec., 16, 2012. Photo: JOHN DAVENPORT, San Antonio Express-News / SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS

Police question a man near the Mayan Theater after an incident late Sunday, Dec. 16, 2012. Photo: JOHN DAVENPORT, San Antonio Express-News / SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS (Photo cannot be sold to the public)

The gunman and the man he shot were hospitalized, according to WOAI.
Police say a recent breakup set off the man’s shooting spree on Sunday, MySanAntonio.com reports.
Jesus Manuel Garcia, 19, an employee at a China Garden restaurant next to the Santikos Mayan Palace 14 theater, apparently became upset Sunday night after his girlfriend broke up with him.
He lashed out by sending her a message saying he planned to go to the restaurant and “shoot somebody,” said Bexar County sheriff’s Sgt. Raymond Pollard.
Pollard said the woman called to warn restaurant employees, but by the time she saw his message, Garcia was already outside the China Garden firing a Glock 23 at the front door about 9:25 p.m.
If Garcia survives his attempt at mass murder, officials say he will likely face a charge of attempted capital murder as he allegedly shot at the San Antonia police car on Southwest Military Drive as he ran from the restaurant and into the theater.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:44 PM   #454
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oh yah and going on 5 weeks.. no guns for law abiding citizens
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:46 PM   #455
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WOAI now reports it was an off-duty sergeant who fired a total of four shots, wounding the shooter.

Investigators say about 30 rounds were fired.
So an off duty police officer, someone who was on the scene, stops the guy...but only after he's able to get off about 26 rounds.

Not sure that benefits your argument all that much. But whatever.
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So an off duty police officer, someone who was on the scene, stops the guy...but only after he's able to get off about 26 rounds.

Not sure that benefits your argument all that much. But whatever.
I would say it does. Bad guy with a gun gets stopped by a good guy with a gun. In this case, a good girl. Pretty simple.

I was actually commenting more on the fact that the national media has not given this story any air time at all. Gee, I wonder why? We wouldn't want all of the sheeple to actually be informed, now would we?
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:56 PM   #457
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While there are those who will insist that it is a "conspiracy of silence" on the part of the "liberal" press, it is more likely that gun violence is so common that incidences involving someone with a pistol trying to harm people, whether successful or not, are considered everyday garden variety and no longer newsworthy on a national scale.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:17 PM   #458
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:23 PM   #459
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Or does not fit the agenda. If one was to check the NRA site. You can find many story's of officer on or off and citizen saving others. That never make it to network news media. Yes there agenda is 180° out of sync with the other. and that is the point. One is selling its agenda, the other is to be selling news.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:25 PM   #460
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If this news were so important to the gun lobby, perhaps you guys should check whether it was reported in national FoxNews.

I could only find a report by the local San Antonio Fox outlet.
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national FoxNews, your kidding right

they just lead by the noise by the others.
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national FoxNews, your kidding right.
No, I would like to know whether this news was ignored by all national media - left or right.

BTW, before we get too excited about this "success" story, let us not forget that there was an armed guard at Columbine High School at the time of the massacre.
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:35 PM   #463
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And if you actually watch the video, it sounds like the guy had absolutely zero intention of "opening fire on a crowded movie theater".
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While there are those who will insist that it is a "conspiracy of silence" on the part of the "liberal" press, it is more likely that gun violence is so common that incidences involving someone with a pistol trying to harm people, whether successful or not, are considered everyday garden variety and no longer newsworthy on a national scale.
If you are someone who can't admit there is even a slight bias among the majority of the national media, then you have to be blind.

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If this news were so important to the gun lobby, perhaps you guys should check whether it was reported in national FoxNews.

I could only find a report by the local San Antonio Fox outlet.
I was wondering this myself, but foxnews (which sucks as far as I am concerned) is probably too busy covering car chases.

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No, I would like to know whether this news was ignored by all national media - left or right.

BTW, before we get too excited about this "success" story, let us not forget that there was an armed guard at Columbine High School at the time of the massacre.
I may be getting my "incidents" mixed up, but I do believe that the "armed guards" were under strict orders not to engage, or perhaps it was they had to leave the building to go get their weapons that were locked in their cars. Either way, I don't think it helps the gun control argument, but rather helps the pro-gun lobby argument.
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If you are someone who can't admit there is even a slight bias among the majority of the national media, then you have to be blind.
I actually agree that the national media as a whole probably lean a little to the left. All I was saying is that the apparent lack of national attention to this particular story is NOT a manifestation of that.
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