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02-28-2014, 04:25 PM
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Charge what you want to charge... if peeps want to see you they will. If not, they won't. The rest is just static in the ethersphere.
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02-28-2014, 04:57 PM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
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If Grace were to post taint then she could charge a much higher rate ... ijs.
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02-28-2014, 05:18 PM
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Why post it? I can't wait to go see it!
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02-28-2014, 06:03 PM
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Grace, Thank-you for bringing up a great topic!
While there is nothing more consistent than a regular 9 to 5 job or a sugar-baby stipend (My personal favorite), providing does seem to be inconsistent and in some cases, in-existent during very slow times. But then again, this is the nature of the beast, and a gentlemen allocating the necessary funds for "play-time" isn't something that is generally a priority after he has taken care of the wife, children, and the bills that he is obliged to pay.
Hence, it only makes sense that a gentlemen would ask for specials in an effort to save their money and allocate the funds necessary. I enjoy my regulars and I see them at much lower rates because I appreciate their business and the stability that they bring. But even still, no matter how low my rates may be for regular clientele, it doesn't mean that they are obligated to see me and/or have the extra time to swing by my in-call.
To me, a gentlemen who visits once a month is a regular, and I find that consistent enough to fan the flame in order to keep the dates exciting and full of anticipation! However, sometimes things happen in the month, and extra funds would make the cushion even softer. Mind you, I seldom text my regulars unless they initiate communication - no matter how much I may just need them to kiss me more.
However, when you mention "lowering" your rates to improve "consistency", I think of the ads that currently flood Back-page. I'd like to assume that a lot of these ladies charge rates as low as $40 in order to have consistent business, well, consistent phone-calls rather, as opposed to not having their phones ringing at all, (which, most of them will try to "upsell"). Ideally, phone calls/bookings for dates are nice to have every day, but I wouldn't want to have a false sense of security in knowing that it would possibly drain me physically and emotionally if I wanted to make "X" amount of money in a "X" amount of time. I might as well get a regular job at that point!
My personal advice,
Instead of lowering your rates, try incorporating more activities into your dates. If you don't offer PSE, try offering simple Kama Sutra lessons. If you offer GFE, then try offering to cook a meal and "play up" the girlfriend experience. If nothing else, try incorporating naked twister or naked body painting. Do things that are unique and that may solicit return business. After all, A great experience, is a great memory that is to be savored and enjoyed again.
Not every man wants to pay for a release, and usually, the ones who solely want to pay for the sexual release and/or instant gratification are the ones who are less than willing to come out of their pockets for the wholesome experience that some providers give. Nothing wrong with doing that, because everyone is surely entitled to their own dicks and their own pocketbooks with their preferred choice of poo-tang. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing!
But then at the end of the day, I agree wholeheartedly with KayleeHotChick:
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No need to justify yourself. Your life, your business and you do what you need to do.
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Grace, you have great reviews, great pictures, and you are very intelligent and know your stuff. If a gentleman can't discern the level of service that you provide, then play it like Jay-Z and move on to the next one!
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02-28-2014, 06:36 PM
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Congrats!
Also, I forget to add - Look at who is provider for the day !
Congratulations Grace!
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02-28-2014, 06:51 PM
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Great thread and Congrats on Provider of the day.
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02-28-2014, 06:57 PM
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Everyone has provided some really great suggestions. It is a little off course from your original question, but I wonder if you could supplement your income outside the hobby to provide the consistency you seek. For example, freelance work of any kind that you do when your not providing might give you the stability you want while also diversifying yourself (not all eggs in one basket so to speak). This has the advantage of not messing with a business model that is successful although not consistent.
2 cents.... worth less I'm sure.
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02-28-2014, 09:21 PM
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Just another guy
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This is where I think the P411 ads, twitter and other "limited shelf life" means of communication would come into play. The lady posts her regular rates in her profile or showcase, then when she's looking to fill in some free time offer a special only through those media. She keeps her "base rate", but might be able to fill in the gaps through these other outlets.
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I like this. A few years ago, I was thinking Yahoo! Messenger or some other IM program would be a good way for a lady to let others know her status. You'd have to deal with tire-kickers and time-wasters, and that would probably sink the idea. I'm not up on social media, but there has to be some way to post real-time status.
Facebook probably offers some opportunities as well, but I don't know of many ladies who have working FB accounts, and I think most guys are loathe to set one up for hobby purposes.
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The analytics of this fascinate me. Too bad I don't have the time to collect and analyze the data LOL!
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Me, too. Good weather? Bad weather? Heat? Cold? Day of the wek? Time of day? 1st and 15th, or 16th and last, or every two weeks? Geographic area?
I sit around most of each day with not much to do except look at Showcases and BP ads and dream, and wait for the infrequent ECCIE discussion that's worth joining. Ladies, at your service!
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03-01-2014, 01:24 AM
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Webcam shows are a great idea too. A great way to supplement income during off times.
imlive and streamate
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03-01-2014, 05:40 AM
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Raising rates or sustaining high rates to 'control' calls coming your way is no excuse, IMO. If and when you've reached your provider quota for the day, TURN YOUR PROVIDER PHONE OFF. It's that simple.
Same situation if you have rates that aren't sky high. Once you've done enough business for the day, turn off the phone.
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03-01-2014, 07:19 AM
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Ramblo-- I don't have to turn off the phone, I don't publish my number.
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03-01-2014, 08:00 AM
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I have met Grace
and enjoyed our visit. She is a very low keyed classy lady
Good to see that you posted this. Lotta interesting comments here. Many things DO affect who sees you and how often. Rates certainly fall in that category. There are several different thoughts that establish repeat clientel. Some women clearly do not care, and others definitely do. If one is in the area and in this for a long haul then established clientel is a good thing. Much easier to deal with and prepare for, generally.
I have been around off and on since the Delphi boards. And my observation is that establishing regulars is best for the stretch. You have a good perspective here. Keep it up. I'd add more but I think you have made your mind up, and I hate typing.
Take care
Shooter
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03-03-2014, 12:47 PM
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Raising rates or sustaining high rates to 'control' calls coming your way is no excuse, IMO. If and when you've reached your provider quota for the day, TURN YOUR PROVIDER PHONE OFF. It's that simple.
Same situation if you have rates that aren't sky high. Once you've done enough business for the day, turn off the phone.
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That's an interesting theory. Care to elaborate?
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03-03-2014, 05:07 PM
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I wouldn't presume to advise you on how you should run your business. But some feedback for what it's worth (not much!). If I understand you correctly
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to ensure a consistent flow of business, as opposed to my "feast or famine" that seems to happen now.
I'm not doing poorly.. I'm just not CONSISTENT.
I really don't intend to increase my volume.. I just want to make sure that each day I am available I can "fully book" for the day
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you'd like to change an adequate-on- average-but-highly- variable demand into similar-on-average-but-less-variable demand. TinMan offered some suggestions on that, through intensive management, but I suspect it would be difficult to do effectively. The airlines have some success at that but it's a very intensive process that probably would not scale smaller very well. Clients also tend to plan well in advance for flights than they do for P4P. I'd guess you might be able to reduce variability somewhat but not as much as you need to. You can't easily shift the demand to another day, at least if many clients wanna play when they wanna play.
What you seem to be contemplating, instead, is not really making demand less variable - it's increasing the demand so you will always have at least X requests for any day you work, and turning down more of that demand than you do currently. Some days you'll have twice that many requests, or more, because you haven't eliminated the variability, but you will turn down any over that desired level. You won't have to eat everything at the "feast" today because you're not worried about a "famine" tomorrow.
That might very well work. You mentioned a concern about how prospective clients might view the lower rates. I'm not really sure. Some might think it indicated a problem, but I suspect for most prospective clients the brain would shut off after processing the lower rates. They'd be so pleased with saving a few bucks -- because that seems to be the most important thing for many of our brethren -- that they couldn't think of anything else. If it were a problem, I'd think only for a very significant drop - say, 40% or more. But I could be wrong, and I suspect you and your "sisters under the sheets" are much better at forecasting that sort of thing than I would be anyway.
Another potential factor would be that you may find yourself turning away a higher volume than before. Might that discourage some guys who contact you frequently but unsuccessfully because you're already booked? Will they eventually give up and complain about TCB because you're just never available? (Is that a factor in the declining demand for a FOTM?) Maybe, but again you and your "sisters under the sheets" are a better judge of that than I am.
In any event, good luck.
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03-03-2014, 06:26 PM
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Just another guy
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Speaking only for myself,
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Another potential factor would be that you may find yourself turning away a higher volume than before. Might that discourage some guys who contact you frequently but unsuccessfully because you're already booked?
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Yes.
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Will they eventually give up and complain about TCB because you're just never available?
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I'd give up, but I doubt I'd complain about TCB skills. I'd probably figure she just wanted to consort with a higher class of client.
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