Banned in the USA!

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

If you think we don't know that private areas are not "secure" you don't know squat. But when people who have information they should not have and USE IT they have to deal with the consequences.

I've met Lisa once. I think she's a cool girl. I'm sorry she's put in this situation thanks to a couple of idiots who decided to share private information. This is all their fault. She's placed in the position of getting clients in trouble or taking the brunt herself. Either way, someone's got to pay the price when rules are broken.

Okay - so your position is not that the private areas are secure.

Your position is not that you can EVER make them secure.

Your position is - these guys were too stupid and left a paper trail - so they have to be punished.

I can dig that. Lesson there for guys is - just make sure you leave no evidence behind and it's all cool.

Still - if you have all the evidence you need - why are you leaning on Lisa and giving her ultimatums?

By the way - ARE YOU SO SURE THAT MODS AREN'T LEAKING INFO TO PROVIDERS?

I'll just leave that hanging out there ... like a turd in a toilet bowl for y'all to smell while trying to figure out how to flush it. If there's gonna be a witch hunt - let's do it right!

[pornodave69]

Originally Posted by Arverni

I call it like it IS - and this is a witch hunt. You can hide behind a technical definition all you wish - it's the same exact thing.

If you got PM's - YOU went into people's in-boxes without their permission or else you bullied them into giving them up - otherwise you wouldn't have to threaten Lisa with a ban to get your info.

Can we now say it's safe to conclude that ECCIE administrators can enter private PM boxes to spy on PM's? Of course they can - more evidence of the truth of what I'm saying - THIS PLACE IS NOT SECURE - so why are you burning on members in a futile attempt to make it so?

This is exactly the way LE works.

Like I said before, if you don't know what you're talking about it's best just to keep quiet. We can't go into PM boxes. Never have. Not even top administrators can do that. There's this thing called the RTM button on every post and every PM. You see, sometimes, when people get unwanted, unsolicited, threatening or inappropriate PMs they REPORT them and they go to a a staff area where every moderator and administrator can view them and take the appropriate action.

That's all that needs to be said on the matter as far as I'm concerned. You can keep running your mouth with misinformation, conspiracy theories or whatever nonsense you believe in, but you'll just be proving how much of a fool you are.

[Arverni]

Okay Dave - so assuming that mods and admins can't get into PM's (which I don't believe but I'll stipulate you're correct) ... then it means that providers are either VOLUNTEERING these PM's to you - or you are bullying them to get access to 'em.

Either way - that shouldn't give any of US a "warm and fuzzy" feeling now should it?

[Guest062114-5]

Or someone PM'd someone about private info and that person hit the RTM button and complained. I think that's what Porno means.

I still don't like this whole thing. It just feels "wrong" but not my business...


going to watch ConAir on Netflix now...

[pornodave69]

Originally Posted by LilMynx69

Or someone PM'd someone about private info and that person hit the RTM button and complained. I think that's what Porno means...

WE HAVE A WINNER! At least someone understands how this works, even after I already explained it.

[Guest062114-5]

LOL...I like to think my Green Wave education makes me smarter than the average bear (or Tiger)...ijs

[annie@christophers]

Usually for using a bad language .... but yall gotta stop being 10 handles... i have no idea who im bitching at these days..lol Lisa i admire ya for not telling on the source ..eat it and youll be back sooner or later. Not the end of the world... xo annie p,s- whoever sent you the info was probably setting you up for the fall.

[chellachella]

I still think its stupid, like eccie is some super covert site with tons of sensitive info lol. Yeh that will teach her to ever be human again and look at premium access info only meant for men who are too chicken shit to say it in public.

Life changing event for Lisa. Im sure she will somehow recover from the devastation

The funny part in all of this is the guys who are not loyal to anyone in their personal life upset about a disloyalty on a hooker board. How dare some hooker betray the trust and sacred ground of the mens room? I wonder if they think about that when in church on Sundays with the family, maybe they will pray for her to redeem herself on eccie and be an honorable honest hooker...

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Arverni

I don't know if you're talking about me - but if you are you're talking out of your ass again............So if you want to indict my opinions in this forum - you're going to have to be more inventive than trying to insinuate that I'm a "leaker" of PA information - since I don't even have access.

Try again.

I didn't say anything to you in this thread. You have been drinking haven't you. Relax......your white night trophy for the year is still safe. Your just trying to pick a fight now with someone for no reason in this thread. If you gonna pick a fight at least have reasoning behind it.

I guess the pressure to respond just got to ya, and you exposed your hand.

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by chellachella

The funny part in all of this is the guys who are not loyal to anyone in their personal life upset about a disloyalty on a hooker board. How dare some hooker betray the trust and sacred ground of the mens room? I wonder if they think about that when in church on Sundays with the family, maybe they will pray for her to redeem herself on eccie and be an honorable honest hooker...

^^ This - and I suppose I'm one of those guys with loyalty issues but at least I'm not hypocritical about it - I'm not deluding myself.

Hate the Game - not the Player. It's ECCIE that makes gaining access to the ML so easy for anyone. It's also ECCIE that has set up a system where a guy can attack a gal's livliehood and she has zero options to respond to it. So of course - ECCIE has provided both the MEANS and the INCENTIVE for gals to get access to it - one way or another.

Then they complain when the gals are simply trying to balance the scales.

Yes - I realize that it's all probably a violation of the ToS - and I'm not trying to encourage anyone to violate the terms of service - it's ECCIE that encourages it by setting up a system of zero accountability and zero recourse.

It's not just the "White Knights" that give out information. If it's not the girl getting the information directly from her own "strawman" account - then it's a boyfriend or husband who has access that gives it to her. It's her ATF who has access to it that gives it to her. It a MOD who gives it to her.

Some of the very people complaining so vocally about this info getting out are people who have - at one time or another - given out information that they learned about in the ML.

And now LL is being bullied into giving up her sources - and it's thought that will deter people from giving out information in the future? Right - the same way that LE prostitution stings have deterred all us guys from seeing escorts! LMAO!!!

[disilene]

This thread is quickly becoming the "Jerry Springer" thread of white knights, lol.

The private areas are not 100%, but if Eccie got rid of them....how would eccie ever induce anyone to pay? Newspapers tried that, but if you can get the exact same thing for free, why would you pay for the exact same thing?

Without PA access for reviews, who would ever take on the hassle (and the blow back) of writing reviews?

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by disilene

This thread is quickly becoming the "Jerry Springer" thread of white knights, lol.

The private areas are not 100%, but if Eccie got rid of them....how would eccie ever induce anyone to pay? Newspapers tried that, but if you can get the exact same thing for free, why would you pay for the exact same thing?

Without PA access for reviews, who would ever take on the hassle (and the blow back) of writing reviews?

And enter Dislene - who (a) is known for making ad hominem attacks and (b) has said a long time ago that he can't see my posts because he's "blocked" me - LOL, guess we know that's never been the case now.

Look - the system would work FINE if guys understood the playing field that they're on and used it that way instead of trying to pretend it's something it's not. It's not secure - it never will be secure - and that is NOT the end of ECCIE as long as guys would quit pounding the table because things aren't the way they want them.

Write GOOD reviews. I never write bad reviews. If I have a bad experience - I simply don't write a review. A girl who has no reviews would pretty much say it all now wouldn't it? And no girl can come back on you for NOT writing a review. Simple really. But the complainers on the forum want to see the "train wreck" - they want the controversy - they live for it. There's something in them that gets angry about the fact that these women own their pussies - and NOT them! So they "get off" when some "uppity" ho gets the "what for" in a review - it gives them back a piece of of their beta-manhood - makes them feel as if they've regained a morsel of "power" that they've LOST by paying a woman for sex.

LOL - what an illusion.

The bad reviews don't tell me anything anyway. Any idiot knows there's always two sides of a story - and on ECCIE (at the penalty of banning) only one side ever gets aired. So why pay attention to a deadbeat who's got to drum on about how bad a girl is while he's hiding like a coward behind ECCIE PA?

Sometimes people don't click. What idiot is NOT going to see a girl simply on the basis of a bad review that she can't respond to without getting herself involved in the never-ending (and completely futile) ECCIE witch-hunts aimed at keeping PA sacrosanct?

[disilene]

I feel like Deja Vu all over again....wasn't that in a movie. Yeah, I have you blocked, which is why I apparently missed a pm you sent me, but I digress. When you block someone, there is a little button that allows you to view posts, also when someone quotes you I can read them. But once again I digress.

You should start your own hooker board. I am sure it would be a lovely place. I think you were born in the wrong time Arverni. I imagine you quite at home in the time of Victorian England.

Nothing wrong with that. I just think your views sound too much as though they are coming from the mouth of a women, which you are not. A very gallant person you are however.

Which digresses further. I guess I am saying having been told you are not a provider posing as a man (which is what I thought you were) which is why I had a beef with you. I propose we bury the the figurative hatchet.


Eccie, for as much as people want to change it.....has stood the test of time. Their business model works and perhaps the better vote of confidence.....all those who claim so many problems with it, still frequent it's domain.

So a good day to you, now let the accusations start flying again. It was rather enjoyable.

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by disilene

I think you were born in the wrong time Arverni. I imagine you quite at home in the time of Victorian England.

LMAO! I was definitely born in the wrong time!

Men own all the "physical power". Women own all the "sexual power". It is this dynamic that makes our relationships work - each must have power. Men cannot "own" what belongs to women anymore than women can pretend to own what belongs to us.

Dysfunction occurs when one sex tries usurp what the other owns. For centuries men have attempted to use their physical power to "own" women - and it hasn't worked out very well and neither men nor women are happy. Now - in the 21st century - some women - neo-feminists - are attempting to define manhood for us. Now you get shit like "PIV is Rape - always" (PIV = Penis in vagina).

My views on this forum - you can call me "White Knight" - I'm good with that - but it's way overly simplistic because my views are driven by natural law. Usually when I comment as a "White Knight" I'm actually commenting because I see a guy - or guys - attempting to upset the balance of natural law.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Arverni

Look - the system would work FINE if guys understood the playing field that they're on and used it that way instead of trying to pretend it's something it's not. ...........

Write GOOD reviews. I never write bad reviews. If I have a bad experience - I simply don't write a review. A girl who has no reviews would pretty much say it all now wouldn't it? And no girl can come back on you for NOT writing a review.

If guys used their playing field like you just stated...where they never included their "no" reviews........and just posted their yes experiences......the board would serve no purposes.

The mere fact you don't write bad reviews if they happen.........takes a little gusto off the ladies you write them for.....and the ones you cosign. Since guys would determine you aren't objective and won't touch on service flaws at all.

And you comment about a girl not having reviews carrys no water. That just means no one thought to write one for her yet. Or no one cared to do one.

No reviews tend to be more useful than yes reviews. They show trends.