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Old 04-29-2013, 07:55 PM   #31
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again your assuming patients are all on the government tit, when they aren't. Im not really sure what escapes you about people buying insurance andcarrying an insurance card .The only government assistance for those people are the tax credits or the subsidies they receive direct from the government. Dr's don't figure into that scenario in any fashion.
Lol, go back and read. NOOOOOOOOO, the only thing I was trying to explain to you is why good doctors will not see poor people on Medicare/Medicaid now, nor will they see poor people on the Obamacare Bronze Plan in the future. Because they don't make as much profit and Obamacare does not change this!
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:22 PM   #32
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Lol, go back and read. NOOOOOOOOO, the only thing I was trying to explain to you is why good doctors will not see poor people on Medicare/Medicaid now, nor will they see poor people on the Obamacare Bronze Plan in the future. Because they don't make as much profit and Obamacare does not change this!

I like the way you said "good doctors" and not all doctors ... wiggle room complete.

so far youre entire argument is based on speculation and omits the law being amended .. when Afordable Healtcare takes full effect, and amendments straighten out the curves we'll see.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:40 PM   #33
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I like the way you said "good doctors" and not all doctors ... wiggle room complete.

so far youre entire argument is based on speculation and omits the law being amended .. when Afordable Healtcare takes full effect, and amendments straighten out the curves we'll see.
Not the entire argument. Presently it is happening with people on Medicare/Medicaid. The best, good, successful, the doctors I go to and the poor can't, call it what you want.

You are correct about the possibility of the free government program being better than that of what you and I will have. My speculation is only based on the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer, which tends to be the norm in America when congress is involved. For the poor, I hope you are right.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:01 PM   #34
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If its such great legislation why would it need to be amended?
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:17 PM   #35
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If its such great legislation why would it need to be amended?
legislation gets amended on a regular basis since it hasn't taken full effect I wouldn't call it great. Necessary would be better put IMO
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:10 PM   #36
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CBJ7 will never accept the truth about Obamacare. At least not until he is disconnected from the big Obamatron in Chicago. He actually believes the bullshit the liberals and Obama say about it! Never mind the independent reviews that show it will be a disaster.

Nope. Can't teach an Obamaton anything. Facts are useless.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:13 PM   #37
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CBJ7 will never accept the truth about Obamacare. At least not until he is disconnected from the big Obamatron in Chicago. He actually believes the bullshit the liberals and Obama say about it! Never mind the independent reviews that show it will be a disaster.

Nope. Can't teach an Obamaton anything. Facts are useless.

rub your crystal ball and tell everyone what the future holds
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:45 AM   #38
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Here is what I see, CBJ7:

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Old 04-30-2013, 04:02 AM   #39
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Here is what I see, CBJ7:


you see a cartoon .. I see an idiot with a brand new forte' ... posting cartons
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:50 AM   #40
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Hanoi Jane has turned into a cartoon.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:22 AM   #41
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My speculation is only based on the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer, which tends to be the norm in America when congress is involved. For the poor, I hope you are right.
I see that part happening even faster when you have less government regulation. The government is the only entity that can possibly stand up for the people. Corporations certainly are not going to do so as they have no vested interest in closing the earnings gap between the rich and the poor and by their very nature increase the earnings gap.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:15 PM   #42
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Yeah. Government has your best interest at heart. Good god, do you really believe that?
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