i get BANNED!

[crowley79]

Lexi, Nikki, Aubrey have all three seen how far I will go to keep an appointment. You are full of shit Coach. It doesn't matter because those attacks are moot. Every provider who has met me in person has a rapport with me. I treat them well and everyone else should to. Be a nice guy. They don't always finish last.

Now assuming this were true, Im sure you were there when Destiny scowled and threw a tantrum because she couldn't get her some good ol' long dickem action. After all she did brag a whole bunch to other providers at the one meet n greet about my cock. Made me blush Coach. It made Aubrey see me but hey Im happy because she is fucking amazing as a provider and as a person. You should take some penis growing pills or something, maybe Destiny could be dick whipped instead of you being pussy whipped. She does like em big ya know.

Hey Coach, ask Destiny what's "crackalakin" for me.

Oh and eat your "Wheaties". Destiny loves them.

[Rxo]

Diveguy may not be as innocent as believed,when he first opened RTP all the avatars had pimp names, baby pimp etc,and he tried to recruit providers to work for an escort service he was trying to create by placing an add in the adult jobs section of Backpage.I'm pretty sure he tried to get Brooke Monroe to help him run it but she refused.Definitly shows a certain mind set.
Just sayin....

[oldbaldfat]

My thoughts exactly Doc, why in the world would a person see any of these ladies involved in this, whether they did anything right wrong or nothing at all! To much DRAMA!!!

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Word.
All these threads have done is make me cross a bunch of local providers off of my to do list.

[HounddoginKC]

Originally Posted by oldbaldfat

My thoughts exactly Doc, why in the world would a person see any of these ladies involved in this, whether they did anything right wrong or nothing at all! To much DRAMA!!!

I'm with the two of you.

[little_lexi]

i have retired so anything i say won't hurt my business.

[SunniGambinoSTL]

If the truth hurts my buisness, & saves a few girls, so be it! I was robbed & that should be known! All parties involved!

[SunniGambinoSTL]

& I don't think Dive knows as much as it seems! He just sees the best in people, even when there true colors shine through! Even the members of rtp, most of them are genuine nice guys! I LOVED rtp & the gentlemen that were members there! I felt like a punch in the stomach & a lot of hard work washed down the drain when I was deleted without being asked first! But Dive is a good guy, just doesn't want to see the bad in people! Same as Coach! He also is not a bad guy, just innocently wrapped up in some bullshit without his knowledge! Whether he wants to see, believe or not!

[Recapacitar]

Hey, Sunni. Sorry what happened. You are a very special person and your presence is missed.

[TheodoreHashbrown]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Word.
All these threads have done is make me cross a bunch of local providers off of my to do list.

Double word.

I just gotta wonder why the whole local STL scene has to explode in self-destructive drama every couple of years.

Here's my two cents on the situation for what it's worth. I have no inside info on the things happening, have not seen any of the ladies in question or know any of the guys outside of their posts on various boards including this one.

If someone has been physically attacked or threatened they have an obligation to make other providers aware of who this is for their safety. They also need to contact LE and file a report. If it's true, there is a psycho on the loose who belongs behind bars. Sunni, I respect you taking time to get in a better state of mind after what happened and collect yourself, but I hope you do the right thing.

I think some folks are way too intimately involved with providers. Hobbyists need to realize the relationship they have is based on money. Not saying we can't be friends or care about one another as human beings, but there are limits. Providers have a responsibility not to encourage this kind of behavior with their clients regardless of how good the money is.

There is a lot of hearsay in these posts and I'm having trouble following the arguments people are putting out there. It worries me too because LE read the boards as well and all this drama is going to get their attention.

Providers need to take screening seriously and not just rely on someone's status on a message board.

Okay, that's all I have to say. I hope things settle down soon and we can go back to normal, whatever that is.

[Rxo]

Originally Posted by SunniGambinoSTL

& I don't think Dive knows as much as it seems! He just sees the best in people, even when there true colors shine through! Even the members of rtp, most of them are genuine nice guys! I LOVED rtp & the gentlemen that were members there! I felt like a punch in the stomach & a lot of hard work washed down the drain when I was deleted without being asked first! But Dive is a good guy, just doesn't want to see the bad in people! Same as Coach! He also is not a bad guy, just innocently wrapped up in some bullshit without his knowledge! Whether he wants to see, believe or not!

Sunni that's very sweet of you to think that of Diveguy when he just deleted your 50 reviews without contacting you.Course we all know you are a sweetie!

[SunniGambinoSTL]

Hey, thanks recap! Its great to see you all still look at me the same as day 1! I miss you too! But you know where to find me! I'm here & on P411 also!

[corebread]

I would like to first express that I was sorry to hear what happened to you Sunni. No one should be subjected to the experience that you went through. I am guessing that some of the heated discussion by the hobbyists here is due to our frustration in not being able to change what happened to you. I suspect that that most of the hobbyists here wish they could have walked in on this scene and beat the shit out of this guy before he hurt you.

Although we have never met, I have always admired how you portrayed yourself with class on RTP and you always seemed to have an admiring following of hobbyists.

I believe that RXO and you have a misunderstanding of what verification means and in particular what it means to have a verified hobbyist. Verification is the process to substantiate something or someone. And in the case of a hobbyist, it is to testify to the fact that you had a safe encounter with them. It does not mean that the person is always going to be safe, or that the provider has enough personal knowledge of that individual to vouch for him as a person. Many very violent people live seemingly harmless lives that deceive those around them. Would you want to be held accountable for every okay you gave to another provider that turned out not to be okay? Of course not. Someone may have treated you fine but the next girl he meets triggers some idea in his head and he attacks her. Skilled psychologists are wrong in these predictions, even after months of therapy with a patient. The problem is not the verification system because by its very nature, it is limited in what it can do. The problem is the attacker. Unless you let the right people know who he is, others will be hurt and possibly killed.

I gather from what you wrote, that you feel this was a premeditated attack, and some have suggested that you were set up in a retaliatory effort against you. I have no knowledge of any facts that would support this idea. And unless I have missed it, you have not said anything to suggest that the attacker said anything to give you that idea. Again, I think this pulls the attention away from the real culprit here, and that is the man that attacked you.

I wish you a speedy recovery.

[stlguy1980]

Originally Posted by corebread

I would like to first express that I was sorry to hear what happened to you Sunni. No one should be subjected to the experience that you went through. I am guessing that some of the heated discussion by the hobbyists here is due to our frustration in not being able to change what happened to you. I suspect that that most of the hobbyists here wish they could have walked in on this scene and beat the shit out of this guy before he hurt you.

Although we have never met, I have always admired how you portrayed yourself with class on RTP and you always seemed to have an admiring following of hobbyists.

I believe that RXO and you have a misunderstanding of what verification means and in particular what it means to have a verified hobbyist. Verification is the process to substantiate something or someone. And in the case of a hobbyist, it is to testify to the fact that you had a safe encounter with them. It does not mean that the person is always going to be safe, or that the provider has enough personal knowledge of that individual to vouch for him as a person. Many very violent people live seemingly harmless lives that deceive those around them. Would you want to be held accountable for every okay you gave to another provider that turned out not to be okay? Of course not. Someone may have treated you fine but the next girl he meets triggers some idea in his head and he attacks her. Skilled psychologists are wrong in these predictions, even after months of therapy with a patient. The problem is not the verification system because by its very nature, it is limited in what it can do. The problem is the attacker. Unless you let the right people know who he is, others will be hurt and possibly killed.

I gather from what you wrote, that you feel this was a premeditated attack, and some have suggested that you were set up in a retaliatory effort against you. I have no knowledge of any facts that would support this idea. And unless I have missed it, you have not said anything to suggest that the attacker said anything to give you that idea. Again, I think this pulls the attention away from the real culprit here, and that is the man that attacked you.

I wish you a speedy recovery.

Interesting...first post and you act like it was her fault. Wonder if this one of the providers being accused of being involved or someone else trying to defend their actions under the cover of being helpful. Starts off well with a compliment of Sunni but quickly devolves in to blaming her for 'misunderstanding' how verification works.

Nice try.

[StlBondFan]

Would this be Diveguy? If so, why'd you ban her?

[crowley79]

I got word that Destiny was finally stripped of all Admin and Mod privileges. That was what I personally wanted as I felt that she brought some verification ideas to the site that partly led to a false sense of security with provider verification. I have been made aware of what Destiny was capable of more than I should have been and I openly admit I had a personal vendetta because someone else was attacked but in a different manner and I cannot discuss it with anyone because I promised not to.

I attacked Sunni among other things in my infamous PM sent to all RTP members. I made the wrong assumptions about Sunni. Sunni contacted me immediately asking why I did it and told me how much I hurt her in doing what I did. I immediately tried to follow up with a PM to all and apologize to Sunni as she was not truly my intended target but by then I was already blocked from sending group PMs. Sunni exhibits amazing courage for a woman and I admire her willingness to come forward in a highly volatile situation such as this and have willingness to deal with it. She was willing to hear me out with my apology I offered to her afterwards offline. She didn't have to but she did. I will openly admit I misjudged Sunni's character. Thank you Sunni for keeping some faith in me even though I was a total jerk to you and I did not deserve it.

I also indirectly launched an attack at Lexi. I'm not sure and I was never told this but I assume I hurt her as well. She never did reach out to me after all of this stuff went down and I never expected her to. I have since talked to Nikki and from what she has told me, I can honestly say I am proud of Lexi. I am glad she is out of this mess and is willing to give a shot at finding some way to take care of herself outside of this hobby. I want to say if Lexi is willing to hear me on this, I lumped you up with Destiny and with what knowledge I was operating off of at the time, I thought you were possibly complacent with some of the things she was attempting to do in ruining the business of other providers. I was not thinking correctly in respect to your character either and I admit I made a horribly bad judgement with that. I am truly sorry for my mistake Lexi. You may see me as a bad person but I promise you I am not. I have had some of my best sessions with you and I am truly grateful for that.