Why does discrimination exist in the hobby????

[gary5912]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

So Gary, you're saying the ladies have the right to.. 'play the race card..'? We all have that right don't we. Even president Obama.

no I'm just saying they have the right to say no no matter what color their skin is JOHNNY

[NoahScape]

Originally Posted by jackson12345

Greetings fellow hobbyists and providers,
Let's put it all out there...I am a black man! I am not a pimp, not a thug, I have a legit well paying job, college educated, and I still get discriminated in the hobby! It is frustrating to get hung up on, told no, and sometimes cussed out because of the color of my skin! This is 2013 and we still have this going on???? This not only angers me but it also saddens me. I thought we have come so far...

Well, there's no legal requirement for a provider to see you. It's not like you're seeking employment or trying to buy/rent housing.

And there's no cultural component that compels a provider to see you either. A lady can decline to see you for whatever reason she wants.

Sorry, that's just the way it is.

I doubt there's really a dearth of providers that would be willing to see a client of another race. Maybe there's another reason you're getting turned down.

Best,
Noah

[Guest030817]

A provider can and should DNS for any reason, whatever reason, no reason. i wasn't debating that. My point is that it's really in thorough screening that you weed out all of the things other than personal preference and that there are professional, cultured, educated gentleman of different races. Also, that I don't really buy that as many providers care as do the insecure men behind them. Which really makes it his choice, not her choice.

I wasn't trying to make a statistical point of speaking for or against anyone. I was simply saying that race hasn't shown to be a determinate based on MY criteria. I love white guys....easily 90%+ of my friends. Those I see who are minorities tend to go out of their way to be polite and respectful, I assume wanting to completely go against the stereotype.

[blade78]

Originally Posted by cuddlyteddybear

Whether it is or isn't a choice does not justify the bigotry. Ignorance is a choice too, but I don't discriminate against you just because you're ignorant.

It's incorrect to say that Ignorance is a choice.
Do you unwderstand what "ignorance" means, my friend?
ignorance means you don't know information; you lack knowledge ie
ignorant
Adjective

• Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
• Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular: "ignorant of astronomy".

Would it make any sense for me to laugh at your inability to do simple math problems when you have never been taught math? no

Being obese is a choice people make daily as they eat. They eat too much, this extra energy gets stored as fat. The reason they eat so much has to do with a variety of factors, which I shouldn't tease you for being ignorant of for not knowing; as it may not be common knowledge in your life, so your aren't expected to know that information.

Unlike when people teased Sweetheart,http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=689075&page=2, because she used a word incorrectly. That was information she should know, ie not be ignorant about since she is above the age of a 5th grader

[blade78]

Originally Posted by MsElena

I've had a few guys tell me that if I wasn't Mexican or Native American Indian, they'd see me.

It does work both ways.

People like who they like.....I can't fault them for it. I don't know if racism always plays a part in it though. If it does, that sucks, but racism of any type is always going to be part of our lives. Move on and find another who is willing to see you.

interesting how life works, sometimes
I'd see you because you are Mexican or Native American Indian.

[jackson12345]

Originally Posted by NoahScape

Well, there's no legal requirement for a provider to see you. It's not like you're seeking employment or trying to buy/rent housing.

And there's no cultural component that compels a provider to see you either. A lady can decline to see you for whatever reason she wants.

Sorry, that's just the way it is.

I doubt there's really a dearth of providers that would be willing to see a client of another race. Maybe there's another reason you're getting turned down.

Best,
Noah

While there is no legal right, it still does not make IT right to lump EVERY black guy into the same category. I'm not crying or anything about not being able to have an encounter with someone, that is there loss! I know who I am, I know what I am working with (because I aim to please and not just be pleased, and I still get mine. I am just venting about how unfair it is. This is something that I see more in the Midwest than I did in Texas. Texas providers were on a whole nother level than these Wichita/Midwest providers.
In response to your last statement...it is no other reason than being black, because these ladies are cool until they find out that I am black. They are willing to meet up until they find out I am black. I did not get cussed out until I said that I was black. So going by deductive reasoning, the common denominator is because I am BLACK! Even though this is the world we love in, it still sucks!!!!

[MsElena]

Blade........well, I'm both.

I don't know if I'd see you though. You're wanting to use the term slut to define escorts. Even though the dictionary defines the word slut as a hooker, I've never heard a hobbyist call a escort a slut. Its a matter of semantics.

But, in order for you or any other hobbyist to get respect from a "slut," you must give respect. I'll treat you the way you treat me.

[Johnny4455]

Originally Posted by gary5912

no I'm just saying they have the right to say no no matter what color their skin is JOHNNY

Of course they have the right to discriminate on race. As you do too. My point with you has been when the op posted how it makes him feel, and asked why do Hookers discriminate, your response was 'stings doesn't it? See how us white folk feel when Obama plays the race card'.... That's a lot different than stating the obvious.. A hooker has a legal right to refuse her services to a black man.

[b4life]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

Of course they have the right to discriminate on race. As you do too. My point with you has been when the op posted how it makes him feel, and asked why do Hookers discriminate, your response was 'stings doesn't it? See how us white folk feel when Obama plays the race card'.... That's a lot different than stating the obvious.. A hooker has a legal right to refuse her services to a black man.

When has Obama used the race card and why do you keep bringing politics into what the government sees as illegal at the moment.

[Guest013121]

I'm sorry, but i have to post regarding this thread. Ok, I'm not really sorry..Lol! First off, I have to say that J12345 is a great guy!! One of the nicest, cleanest, most polite and very respectful gentleman. He always smells good and has donation placed on dresser immediately. I wish I could say this about all guys. With that being said, who gives a fuck what color someone is? The only color any 'true hoe' should care about is green. And for those of you that are naive (stupid) enough to believe when girls whine about being scared of black men trying to pimp them or be rough or rob them and this is their reason for NOT seeing them.....Well, that justs sounds stupid. Ignorance isn't even an excuse anymore. Let me help you all out. That is a fabricated story by girls with pimps. And it's so predictable that girls will use that story. Also, if you ever check any threads like this, you will hardly see any of the pimped girls responding within these threads. The girls who give their pimps access to their memberships are putting peoples' lives in danger everyday. A black man that wants to participate in the hobby is not putting lives at risk. I've seen black men in and outside of this hobby. If a provider is a real provider then she is professional, and professionals are used to every race and every type of man. This is 2013 and discriminating against people is truly played out. Time for new excuses.

Anyway, this is something that always upsets me. J12345 is a sweetie, and a FUN time.
@J12345, it's their loss baby, I know what a gentleman you are.

[Johnny4455]

Originally Posted by b4life

When has Obama used the race card and why do you keep bringing politics into what the government sees as illegal at the moment.

Read garys post and have him give you example s of what he means by Obama playing the race card. Or why he brought that up.

[jackson12345]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

I'm sorry, but i have to post regarding this thread. Ok, I'm not really sorry..Lol! First off, I have to say that J12345 is a great guy!! One of the nicest, cleanest, most polite and very respectful gentleman. He always smells good and has donation placed on dresser immediately. I wish I could say this about all guys. With that being said, who gives a fuck what color someone is? The only color any 'true hoe' should care about is green. And for those of you that are naive (stupid) enough to believe when girls whine about being scared of black men trying to pimp them or be rough or rob them and this is their reason for NOT seeing them.....Well, that justs sounds stupid. Ignorance isn't even an excuse anymore. Let me help you all out. That is a fabricated story by girls with pimps. And it's so predictable that girls will use that story. Also, if you ever check any threads like this, you will hardly see any of the pimped girls responding within these threads. The girls who give their pimps access to their memberships are putting peoples' lives in danger everyday. A black man that wants to participate in the hobby is not putting lives at risk. I've seen black men in and outside of this hobby. If a provider is a real provider then she is professional, and professionals are used to every race and every type of man. This is 2013 and discriminating against people is truly played out. Time for new excuses.

Anyway, this is something that always upsets me. J12345 is a sweetie, and a FUN time.
@J12345, it's their loss baby, I know what a gentleman you are.

Thank you Gemma! You are the greatest!:-)

[blade78]

Originally Posted by MsElena

Blade........well, I'm both.

I don't know if I'd see you though. You're wanting to use the term slut to define escorts. Even though the dictionary defines the word slut as a hooker, I've never heard a hobbyist call a escort a slut. Its a matter of semantics.

But, in order for you or any other hobbyist to get respect from a "slut," you must give respect. I'll treat you the way you treat me.

semantics is correct, a rose by any other name, etc,
I can call cake crap and it still takes like cake, or I could call crap cake and I'd never eat "cake" again

I said that comment as I was annoyed by typing(OMG TYPNIG IS SO HARDZ!) out "provider", but I know better than to just be THAT annoying

so let's forget the comment and hug it out!

[KenMonk]

Originally Posted by blade78

It's incorrect to say that Ignorance is a choice.
Do you unwderstand what "ignorance" means, my friend?
ignorance means you don't know information; you lack knowledge ie
ignorant
Adjective

• Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
• Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular: "ignorant of astronomy".

Would it make any sense for me to laugh at your inability to do simple math problems when you have never been taught math? no

Being obese is a choice people make daily as they eat. They eat too much, this extra energy gets stored as fat. The reason they eat so much has to do with a variety of factors, which I shouldn't tease you for being ignorant of for not knowing; as it may not be common knowledge in your life, so your aren't expected to know that information.

Unlike when people teased Sweetheart,http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=689075&page=2, because she used a word incorrectly. That was information she should know, ie not be ignorant about since she is above the age of a 5th grader

You just showed your own ignorance, which is highlighted in red. Simply being obese doesn't come from simply eatting too much. You continue to prove just how ignorant you are daily.

[blade78]

Originally Posted by KenMonk

You just showed your own ignorance, which is highlighted in red. Simply being obese doesn't come from simply eatting too much. You continue to prove just how ignorant you are daily.

what, pray tell, did I show any ignorance about?
if someone showed they lack knowledge, my friend, it is you...about why people are fat


oh, so eating doesnt cause you to be obese?
please, inform me of this magic that makes people fat without eating?
LOL


hypothyroid or even leptin insensitivity, both cause a lower basal metabolic rate, won't cause a person to become obese unless they eat
so, fill me in with this magic that makes someone obese without eating?
really, I want to win a nobel prize with the sekrets you has