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Old 01-18-2013, 04:37 AM   #31
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I'm gonna add this little technical note. This may be shocking news to the ladies, but oral sex can be a bit taxing if the lady is a slow on the uptake, if you catch my drift. I mean your tongue can get fatigued, your neck can get stiff, you can even get bored or discouraged, but a good monger knows he has to keep on slogging away until she either O's or gives up.

Here is where that digit can be a great a ally who can give the tongue a little respite and add some variety into what can be a monotonous task. And, at least in my view, it enhances and improves the experience, but the no digit girls don't want to hear that (sigh).
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:09 AM   #32
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awl4knot.

I can see your point, I used to have the same opinion. Then one day (or I should say night ) many years ago. I was awakened to by this.


I was in the Army at the time. I had met two girls that were roommates. We got along great, they were young, like I was. In my opinion they were on the hot side of hot. The only draw back for me was they were not into guys.


The subject came up one night during the consumption of a bottle of Jack that we were all trying in make go away. I told them about the stiff neck, tired tongue, sometimes not being able to breath. When one of them told me I was doing it wrong. And she was very adamant about it. So i made this young guy smart-ass comment to the effect of OK, teach me. And my brother, did she ever. It was interesting to say the least.


I learned this. If your neck if stiff, your in the wrong position. If you can't breath, your down to low. if your tongue is tired, your flicking to much and not licking enough. And when she gets to the big "O" grab the legs, don't let go and don't just stop. Suck that love button into your mouth and hold on for the ride. It will take every inch of the bed and sometimes the floor to chase here around wiggling screaming and shaking.


If you get into the right position, breathing is not a problem. You give the illusion of breathing through your ears. And the stiffness in the neck is not s factor. Sometimes, it is just a matter of increasing or decreasing the angle by as little as an inch. lol


This works for me, YMMV


By the way, this night I mentioned. Is also where I learned that watching, leads to joining in.


Now, as for the digits. Some like it, some don't. I have had success with and without the use of digits. It just depends on the girl. I do however see your point.


My dad told me something once many years ago, that I just didn't understand at the time. It hit me several years later, like running into a brick wall. He said son, remember this when taking a girl to bed.


"If, you make them scream three or four times before you fuck em. They won't remember if you fucked them for 5 minutes or 5 hours. They will only remember that they screamed three or four times."


If, a woman has boundaries that, does not include what I wish to engage in. I just move onto another. I have found that some women are better at somethings than others.


Now ladies, before you flame me on this. I understand, this whole thing, goes both ways. Men, just like women have good and bad days. So, yes ladies. YMMY as well.

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Old 01-18-2013, 07:58 AM   #33
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I'm gonna add this little technical note. This may be shocking news to the ladies, but oral sex can be a bit taxing if the lady is a slow on the uptake, if you catch my drift. I mean your tongue can get fatigued, your neck can get stiff, you can even get bored or discouraged, but a good monger knows he has to keep on slogging away until she either O's or gives up.

Here is where that digit can be a great a ally who can give the tongue a little respite and add some variety into what can be a monotonous task. And, at least in my view, it enhances and improves the experience, but the no digit girls don't want to hear that (sigh).
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:56 AM   #34
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TheSearcher,

Your helpful comments and story about learning from the ladies are awl true, but I have to tell you that more than once I have been told that I "eat pussy like a girl." I take that as a compliment.

I follow these simple rules: (1) soft foreplay and hard sex and (2) once you've locked into that winning position or rhythm, don't you dare stop.
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Some times, it is good to do things like a girl! (Grin)
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:30 AM   #36
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If it is such a chore for you, then don't do it. You're certainly NOT required. The fact that you think you know what every woman wants down there, is your first problem. You insisting that a finger gets EVERY woman to a faster orgasm, is complete bullshit, because that is about as dumb as me telling a guy during a bj that a finger up his ass will help! For 'some" it will, and for others, I would get kicked in the damn head!

I have NEVER had any of my female lovers stick their entire finger in my vagina, because it actually takes me LONGER to orgasm that way. I think I know MY vagina better than anyone else...thanks.

Many women feel the same, and like tongue only. I have a very intense technique whilst giving head, and would say that when I do a certain thing 90 percent of men will blow, BUT that other 10 percent want something different, so I adjust.

No, it is not shocking that oral sex can be "taxing" as you say, but it's no walk in the park dealing with some of the guys here either who do on PURPOSE to take 45 minutes for that first nut, then want to try and get another one in before time is up. I have given head laying, standing, on my knees, and upside down for crying out loud. Do you think our necks don't need an adjustment as well? If a guy flat out tells me, "Look, I need you to slow down and go deep," you think I am going to INSIST on going fast because I ASSume what has worked on others will work on him? That would be a NO!

I don't mean to sound condescending, but your quoted text below is you TELLING a woman, what you THINK she likes. The thread did not start out that way though. You asked for guidance, and now you're basically saying you know best and that women who don't like fingers whilst getting oral, are somehow deluded. I think we know what WE like lol.


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Old 01-19-2013, 11:54 AM   #37
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I have found the only consistent "technique" to get a lady to orgasm is actually paying attention to her body's reactions: listening, watching, feeling. Trying to guess--or assume this lady will respond like the last on--leads to frustration more often than not.
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Cheers Old T, and YOU certainly did listen lol.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:17 PM   #39
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Well you were certainly right when you announce that the "Baitch is back" because you've misconstrued everything I've said in an unnecessary attempt to create drama. Or maybe I'm judging you on your reputation and not on your words.

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If it is such a chore for you, then don't do it. You're certainly NOT required. No, I like DATY and I am good at it. But doing any form of sexual activity for 10, or 15 or 20 minutes can be tiresome, like you point out further down in your post. That was my point, and I'm pretty sure you understood that, but you just wanted to pick a fight.

The fact that you think you know what every woman wants down there, is your first problem. You insisting that a finger gets EVERY woman to a faster orgasm, is complete bullshit, because that is about as dumb as me telling a guy during a bj that a finger up his ass will help! For 'some" it will, and for others, I would get kicked in the damn head!

Bullshit, I don't know what every women wants and I never said that. Indeed, as my earlier posts show, what I asked for was guidance for the good of the male order. I didn't say, at least seriously, that I believe that digits help every woman. Every woman has a right to set her menu and limits, and I scrupulously follow their rules, but that doesn't mean that my experiences and opinions are invalid. One of my hottest experiences was with the most beautiful provider I have seen who took my hand and made me use two digits to pump her as she rubbed her clit to a convulsive orgasm. It was living, breathing porn of the highest order. Interestingly enough she didn't permit DATY since she saved that for her civvie guys. I still think that if she permitted DATY with digits, she would have had an even better O, but I will never know and I knew better to ask.

I have NEVER had any of my female lovers stick their entire finger in my vagina, because it actually takes me LONGER to orgasm that way. I think I know MY vagina better than anyone else...thanks.

I'm sure you do, and I acknowledged that in any earlier post. So aren't you just stating the obvious?

Many women feel the same, and like tongue only. Yes, and many like both, and some like digits only. Nothing new here, sister.

I have a very intense technique whilst giving head, and would say that when I do a certain thing 90 percent of men will blow, BUT that other 10 percent want something different, so I adjust. Yes, just like any competent escort, or monger, will adjust. Nothing revolutionary about this. And BTW, I'm not a fan of very intense techniques. I like the more sensual techniques. Take a note.

No, it is not shocking that oral sex can be "taxing" as you say, but it's no walk in the park dealing with some of the guys here either who do on PURPOSE to take 45 minutes for that first nut, then want to try and get another one in before time is up. I have given head laying, standing, on my knees, and upside down for crying out loud. Do you think our necks don't need an adjustment as well? If a guy flat out tells me, "Look, I need you to slow down and go deep," you think I am going to INSIST on going fast because I ASSume what has worked on others will work on him? That would be a NO!

Yep, sex can be boring and even uncomfortable for both genders. But as I said in another post, you just keep on doing what needs to be done until she quits or gets her O. It's your manly duty. And If they want you to change your technique or position they can you. So, why make it a big deal when I state the obvious? Just want to wrangle, huh?


I don't mean to sound condescending, (but you are, and more) but your quoted text below is you TELLING a woman, what you THINK she likes. The thread did not start out that way though. You asked for guidance, and now you're basically saying you know best and that women who don't like fingers whilst getting oral, are somehow deluded. I think we know what WE like lol

Here's what I wrote in earlier posts:

"Digits seem to be an awl or nothing proposition for the ladies. They either love them or won't tolerate them. I know from posts on this board and other places that for some it's a matter of hygiene, but for some like BBW Katrina, it seems that many men don't know how to do it "right." So maybe we can redirect this thread and make it educational and you naysayers can tell us why you don't like fingers and then make suggestions on how guys can improve their performance."


"Well, I'm not sure what's handicapping your kitty, but fact based responses like this are helpful, because, just as every woman is different, every guy is different too and we need guidance. ... My usual approach is to massage the G-spot, and for me that requires full insertion of my fore and/or middle fingers. Your comment makes me think that would be too deep for you."

"One of my favorites used to be a big fan of digits but it's now on her no list. I'm going to ask her why. I will be upset if some oafs were too rough because they have now ruined it for me. Again, thanks for the insights."

From these quotes you will see that I recognized the differences in likes and responses and I particularly noted how your preferences were at odds with my favored approach. I also asked for guidance so the guys could be more effective lovers. In was in that vein of sharing information that I made my last comments See, the "(sigh)" was supposed to signify wistfulness, not arrogance. Maybe if I used the more common "lol" you would have gotten the irony of my comment. But no, you wanted the fight. Are you happy now?

So here we are. You've accused me of arrogance because I think digits are helpful. I've accused you of being a drama queen looking for a fight. Sounds like we are at a stand off. So I guess I'll never stick anything in your handicapped kitty, and the world will go on. But give your kitty a stroke for me. Purrrr.

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I'm so glad London's back. She just has a flair. She is right in that just about every fucktard and hooktard gets off differently. I would like to get that BBBJ that involves laying down,standing up, on her knees, upside down and she goes for 45 minutes. The only problem is I would probably get off after 3 minutes. lol Let's see 45 divided by three? Fuck that's 15 nuts. Ok london where do I sign. lol
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Where's that poll about whether the board is better or knot? I want to change my vote.
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If it is such a chore for you, then don't do it. You're certainly NOT required. The fact that you think you know what every woman wants down there, is your first problem. You insisting that a finger gets EVERY woman to a faster orgasm, is complete bullshit, because that is about as dumb as me telling a guy during a bj that a finger up his ass will help! For 'some" it will, and for others, I would get kicked in the damn head!

I have NEVER had any of my female lovers stick their entire finger in my vagina, because it actually takes me LONGER to orgasm that way. I think I know MY vagina better than anyone else...thanks.

Many women feel the same, and like tongue only. I have a very intense technique whilst giving head, and would say that when I do a certain thing 90 percent of men will blow, BUT that other 10 percent want something different, so I adjust.

No, it is not shocking that oral sex can be "taxing" as you say, but it's no walk in the park dealing with some of the guys here either who do on PURPOSE to take 45 minutes for that first nut, then want to try and get another one in before time is up. I have given head laying, standing, on my knees, and upside down for crying out loud. Do you think our necks don't need an adjustment as well? If a guy flat out tells me, "Look, I need you to slow down and go deep," you think I am going to INSIST on going fast because I ASSume what has worked on others will work on him? That would be a NO!

I don't mean to sound condescending, but your quoted text below is you TELLING a woman, what you THINK she likes. The thread did not start out that way though. You asked for guidance, and now you're basically saying you know best and that women who don't like fingers whilst getting oral, are somehow deluded. I think we know what WE like lol.
Plus 1 and damn I should have made an appointment with you! Any woman who is willing to go at a BJ for 45 mins straight is ok in my book especially with a tight kitty to enjoy afterwards!
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Plus 1 and damn I should have made an appointment with you! Any woman who is willing to go at a BJ for 45 mins straight is ok in my book especially with a tight kitty to enjoy afterwards!
Mr. Clueless,
And she will hate you for your selfishness and lack of consideration. You'll get your nut but not a second one and you will never see her again. Too bad, because you're in her hood.
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And she will hate you for your selfishness and lack of consideration. You'll get your nut but not a second one and you will never see her again. Too bad, because you're in her hood.
Its mind over matter with you .......And I think you are just angry bc she schooled you
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I think if a manual came with each woman that we see, life would be easier on the guy trying to please his partner. But as that is not going to happen then it is up to the guy to figure out the technique that works best. Her subtle voice command of get 'down there and make me cum' with the guided hand coaxing the fingers in and around and the active face grinding added by the screams of delight help a lot. It's all about communication and this forum thread is a big help as well. Thanks ladies for the information, the words of wisdom and the expertise.
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