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As for the OP...obviously Trump is right about some of you being idiots. Hey, you asked.
Yeah, let's flag this predick-tion and see how it holds up in August and December. That is if Dtrump doesn't live up to his true talent level..."Waffle" House flipper.
Possibly the answer to the questions is "both." If these tariffs are so good for American manufacturers and American jobs, maybe someone can tell me why share prices of some companies like Ford Motor are at multi-year lows.
As you probably know, parts and intermediate products used to manufacture an automobile can cross the border multiple times. Apparently a 25% duty will be paid now every time that happens. Anderson Consulting is estimating the cost of pickup will go up by $8000 and an SUV by $9000. Or that's what the talking heads on CNBC are saying. Fruits and vegetables imported from Mexico will go up big time. How are we supposed to grow avocados and watermelon for harvest in March in the good old USA?
The Trump administration is telling us that we're imposing tariffs on Canada to stem the flow of f******* and illegals. Bull shit. Do they really believe we're that stupid?
The US probably sends more d**** and illegals to Canada than they send to us. And how about the new 10% tariff on imported oil? Republicans fought tooth and nail to keep the Keystone XL pipeline on track, to ship oil from Canada to the USA, so we'd have more energy security and more jobs. And now Trump has given the Canucks a bigger incentive to ship their oil to China than Biden did when he jerked Keystone. This is no way to treat your 51st state!
Well, I guess that Mexico and Canada can team up with China now, since they're all kind out of locked out of trading with us. The Europeans will be next.
I feel sorry for Treasury Secretary Bessent and Commerce Secretary Lutnick, having to explain this lunacy.
What the f*** was Trump thinking?
Got a couple things way wrong there, Biden did not cancel the XL, the courts did and he just followed the rulings.
That sludge from Canada was only for export, mostly to make plastics. Had nothing to do with Energy security for us.
Gentlemen, Please ignore the title. Your view on the substance of the post, whether the 25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada make sense, would be appreciated. They've been delayed a second time, at least as to products covered by the USMCA trade agreement, but I believe are still supposed to go into effect in less than a month.
lngtalltxn, At least 5 people, the ones who liked my post, disagree with you. Unless all 5 likes were from the Waco Kid, to fuck with my head.
Given the makeup of the Supreme Court, I don't think the courts could have prevented its construction.
You'd get a mix of heavier hydrocarbon products (like fuel oil and asphalt), along with lighter products like diesel and gasoline from refining the heavy oil. Feedstocks for plastics wouldn't be that significant.
If you reply, please create a new thread so we don't get pointed.
"Chicken! Chicken! The winner of the game would holler CHICKEN!!"
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Originally Posted by Tiny
What the f*** was Trump thinking?
Well, with Donald that's always a good question!
That must be why someone on FinTwit recently posted that any adventure into governance with Trump is sort of like Forest Gump's box of chocolates ... you just never know what you're going to get!
One day, the rationale for the "BBTs" (big, beautiful tariffs) is to raise a lot of revenue in order to pay for large tax cuts. Another day, the stated intention is to bring lots of manufacturing jobs back to the USA. Then at various other times, they have been advanced as a way to bludgeon Mexico and Canada in an effort to pressure them to bend to our will regarding cooperation with control of illegal migration, smuggling, etc.
How about a little "game theory 101," or a high-stakes game of "chicken?" Donald probably figures that we hold the higher cards and that Mexico and Canada will swerve first. But our neighbors rightly feel that they're not exactly bereft of cards to play.
May I suggest that this little hit from the early days of the hot rod rock-n-roll era might be an appropriate theme song for this initiative?
Chicken! Chicken! The winner of the game would holler "chicken!"
That must be why someone on FinTwit recently posted that any adventure into governance with Trump is sort of like Forest Gump's box of chocolates ... you just never know what you're going to get!
One day, the rationale for the "BBTs" (big, beautiful tariffs) is to raise a lot of revenue in order to pay for large tax cuts. Another day, the stated intention is to bring lots of manufacturing jobs back to the USA. Then at various other times, they have been advanced as a way to bludgeon Mexico and Canada in an effort to pressure them to bend to our will regarding cooperation with control of illegal migration, smuggling, etc.
How about a little "game theory 101," or a high-stakes game of "chicken?" Donald probably figures that we hold the higher cards and that Mexico and Canada will swerve first. But our neighbors rightly feel that they're not exactly bereft of cards to play.
May I suggest that this little hit from the early days of the hot rod rock-n-roll era might be an appropriate theme song for this initiative?
Chicken! Chicken! The winner of the game would holler "chicken!"
Good post! I fear that President Trump is engaged in a game of chicken and doesn't know it. He thinks we hold all the cards. We don't, and, by ignoring comparative advantage, he's chosen to play a "lose-lose" game.
And Biden would not take a cognitive test and Trump did. The fact that you slavishly followed Biden shows us what we need to know about you.
Biden did shut down the XL pipeline at a loss of 20,000 jobs. Furthermore, Biden green lit Putin's Nordstream II pipeline making Russia rich enough to invade Ukraine. Biden also ok'd it for Iran to sell their oil making it possible for Hamas to attack Israel.
And Biden would not take a cognitive test and Trump did. The fact that you slavishly followed Biden shows us what we need to know about you.
Biden did shut down the XL pipeline at a loss of 20,000 jobs. Furthermore, Biden green lit Putin's Nordstream II pipeline making Russia rich enough to invade Ukraine. Biden also ok'd it for Iran to sell their oil making it possible for Hamas to attack Israel.
.. Ya know, mate - as we all play the "idiot game" here, it's all rather astounding
to see those lads who profess to know MORE
about the economy and running the country complaining NOW
- when they actually wanted Biden or Kamala to continue
as President... ...
I have a question for those who blindly support your idiot master no matter what, can you explain to me why the stock market is tanking and inflation is rising with your master's stupid ass tariff plan? Yeah Yeah Yeah, your master said it will work out perfectly in the long run. Dumb Dumb should have campaigned on that unlikely scenario instead of that day one bullshit that so many on the fence gullible fools actually believed. Geez, I wonder whether he would have won if he did so.
I'll let you Trumpettes in on a little secret, his bullshit tariff grand plan is not going to work. Trump is an idiot and he is stubborn so I wonder how long people's wallets will have to suffer before his stupid ass figures out the obvious and back pedals like a cornerback covering Randy Moss back in the day.
I have a question for those who blindly support your idiot master no matter what, can you explain to me why the stock market is tanking and inflation is rising with your master's stupid ass tariff plan? Yeah Yeah Yeah, your master said it will work out perfectly in the long run. Dumb Dumb should have campaigned on that unlikely scenario instead of that day one bullshit that so many on the fence gullible fools actually believed. Geez, I wonder whether he would have won if he did so.
I'll let you Trumpettes in on a little secret, his bullshit tariff grand plan is not going to work. Trump is an idiot and he is stubborn so I wonder how long people's wallets will have to suffer before his stupid ass figures out the obvious and back pedals like a cornerback covering Randy Moss back in the day.
... The stock markets are sliding and inflation rising due to
the same ebb and flow that we constantly see... And soon
they will rise and slide the other way.
President Trump's tariffs are used as negotiation tools.
So, they will be enforced or not - based on the other nation's
reaction and ACTION... If the other nation(s) thus listen
and capitulate enough in President Trump's favour - then
He drops the tariffs... Hmmmm... Common sense, yes? ...
... Remember, though - as you process this - that YOU surely
wanted Biden or Kamala to continue on. ... And while BOTH
of them play the "Idiot Game" really well - better than
almost anybody - the wars would still persist and the
bankrupting of the country would continue. ...
... So THAT said - Let's give President Trump some more
time to fix things! ... As He makes America GREAT Again.
I have a question for those who blindly support your idiot master no matter what, can you explain to me why the stock market is tanking and inflation is rising with your master's stupid ass tariff plan? Yeah Yeah Yeah, your master said it will work out perfectly in the long run. Dumb Dumb should have campaigned on that unlikely scenario instead of that day one bullshit that so many on the fence gullible fools actually believed. Geez, I wonder whether he would have won if he did so.
I'll let you Trumpettes in on a little secret, his bullshit tariff grand plan is not going to work. Trump is an idiot and he is stubborn so I wonder how long people's wallets will have to suffer before his stupid ass figures out the obvious and back pedals like a cornerback covering Randy Moss back in the day.
Lucas posted what's called a turn out the lights cut the mic post.
Trumpfs an idiot.
Case closed