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01-14-2024, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman
She should not have been climbing through the window. She also should not have been shot.
What I have taken away from the videos that I have seen is that the police/security were poorly trained and unprepared for this type of situation.
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That is a reasonable statement. But the officer WAS a TRAINED Capitol Police Officer. The fact that he was bad at his job does not excuse him for committing murder.
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01-14-2024, 01:52 AM
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AKA ULTRA MAGA Trump Gurl
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Nothing is hard to comprehend when you don't get your news from the radical far-right conspiracy theory extremist news media. Try it sometime.
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your worldview is appalling. stop watching Rachel Maddow and CNN
thanks .. everyone else in America
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01-14-2024, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
Flip the scenario around and the MAGAs won't comment on it. If shooting someone trying to break and enter into your home, when you are fearing for your life, is 100% OK, so is someone part of a violent mob getting shot while they are breaking and entering and the guard fears for his life.
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Amen. Ashli Babbitt got what any MAGA would have done to any intruder on their property. She fucked around. She found out. It's ludicrous the way she's being defended in here.
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01-14-2024, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
Amen. Ashli Babbitt got what any MAGA would have done to any intruder on their property. She fucked around. She found out. It's ludicrous the way she's being defended in here.
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... The thread is NOT about defending her or encouraging
her death.
... It's about her family filing a lawsuit. ... Wrongful death.
Should the family get payed - or Not??
Hark! ... THAT is the question.
#### Salty
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01-14-2024, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... The thread is NOT about defending her or encouraging
her death.
... It's about her family filing a lawsuit. ... Wrongful death.
Should the family get payed - or Not??
Hark! ... THAT is the question.
#### Salty
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The family should be filing the lawsuit against the real people responsible for January 6. The insurrectionist treasonist traitor election lying-ass tRump, the maga Republicans who continued to spread the lies, lying ass faux news and the other far-right conspiracy theory extremist news organizations. She would not have been there if the above sick lying-ass pieces of shit would have not lied their asses off. Basket full of deplorables.
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01-14-2024, 11:54 PM
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... Nah.... They can just have the Government hand them $3 Million.
Wrongful death and all.
#### Salty
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01-15-2024, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... The thread is NOT about defending her or encouraging
her death.
... It's about her family filing a lawsuit. ... Wrongful death.
Should the family get payed - or Not??
Hark! ... THAT is the question.
#### Salty
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No. There was no "wrongful death" here. She was part of a violent mob trespassing, destroying property, showing no sign of letting up and threatening to do much more. She was warned repeatedly to stand down. Shit happens in those situations. She fucked around and found out.
I feel bad for her family, but they get nothing for their dumbass daughter's fatal stupidity.
Maybe a posthumous Darwin Award on her behalf or something.
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01-15-2024, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Nah.... They can just have the Government hand them $3 Million.
Wrongful death and all.
#### Salty
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Not just wrongful death, but she was murdered. And we all know if she was a leftist, leftists would have rioted nationwide, burning cities down until the murdering officer would be locked away in a cell
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01-15-2024, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by berryberry
Not just wrongful death, but she was murdered. And we all know if she was a leftist, leftists would have rioted nationwide, burning cities down until the murdering officer would be locked away in a cell

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If you look at report, police officers very rarely get charged for murder when they haphazardly unload their clip into someone at the wrong time. Just look basically every instance of a police shooting.
The GOP is all for militarizing the police and making our law enforcement stronger, except when one of their own gets killed. That is irony if I ever saw it
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01-15-2024, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
The GOP is all for militarizing the police and making our law enforcement stronger, except when one of their own gets killed. That is irony if I ever saw it
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Works both ways.
The Democrats are all for defunding the popo, making our LE weaker, and jailing rogue cops - except when their own feel threatened.
Then they flip on a dime, and don't even acknowledge the irony of their flip-flops.
Their lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
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01-15-2024, 11:56 AM
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Only the far left was ever in favor of defunding the police. Most Democrats were never on board with that. And the evidence of that is you never hear that slogan anymore. Because Democrats actually handle their business and take out their own trash. Meanwhile, with the GOP, the inmates truly run the asylum.
Regardless, Ashli Babbitt was a criminal trespasser and a violent, unhinged asshole. Her death was, in no way, "wrongful" any more than the death of any other unhinged, violent asshole, criminal trespasser who gets shot.
Sorry, not sorry. She got what she deserved.
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01-15-2024, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
Only the far left was ever in favor of defunding the police. Most Democrats were never on board with that. And the evidence of that is...
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Many of your fellow travelers in the Democrat Party DID favor it. BLM folks who openly advocate defunding & abolishing the police were featured speakers at the 2020 DNC convention. Numerous Dem-controlled cities - including New York, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, and Los Angeles - went ahead and implemented sweeping cuts in their police budgets in 2020 and 2021.
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^^^ Sorry, tommy.
I already shot you down on this point once before. Don't make me do it again, ok?
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01-15-2024, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
If you look at report, police officers very rarely get charged for murder when they haphazardly unload their clip into someone at the wrong time. Just look basically every instance of a police shooting.
The GOP is all for militarizing the police and making our law enforcement stronger, except when one of their own gets killed. That is irony if I ever saw it
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So you finally admit that the Capitol Police Officer wrongly and haphazardly unloaded their clip into Ashley Babbit
In the real world that is called murder.
Why do you want to allow this law breaking police officer to go free?
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01-15-2024, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... The thread is NOT about defending her or encouraging
her death.
... It's about her family filing a lawsuit. ... Wrongful death.
Should the family get payed - or Not??
Hark! ... THAT is the question.
#### Salty
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Absolutely not.
She was not supposed to be in the capital. She was not invited into it, nor was she acting in an intimidating fashion. She was a face in the doorway that represented all the ones behind her that were beating on the doors, breaking glass and threatening harm.
Hang Mike Pence.... Traitors and threatening to invade the sactitity of the chamber and duely elected representatives of Congress.
She should have been less threatening, and not there, - she literally put herself in harm's way. Why should her family be paid a dime?
In fact I would say that her family should bear the fines of her negligence by breaching the capital, just as others have been forced to pay fines and incarceration. Right is right. She was in the wrong from the moment she stepped across the threshold of those doors - anything had happened to her after that is from her own irresponsible actions.
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01-15-2024, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by berryberry
So you finally admit that the Capitol Police Officer wrongly and haphazardly unloaded their clip into Ashley Babbit
In the real world that is called murder.
Why do you want to allow this law breaking police officer to go free?
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Honestly he should be free. And this was NEVER murder except in the ppl who support the attempt to overthrow the election results.
A cop or anyone who's charges with keeping the peace can discharge a weapon with extreme prejudice to those threatening them.
The politics aside, it's not a left or right thing when you're looking at a mob breaking in.
Put it this way -if a mob was breaking into your house and you had a gun, would you be justified and shooting them?
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