No charges for Ashli Babbitt’s killer

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Wow. Trespassing is punishable by firing squad now. There’s gonna be lots of dead bodies lying around in Foot Locker next time BLM decides to freak out.

Exactly the point but you'll surely be asked why you are "deflecting" from the topic "they want to talk about". Because Hypocrisy and double standards MUST be addressed.

If it is OK to shoot Babbitt for illegally entering a building, any building because trespassing doesn't often stipulate were you may trespass and where you may not, then it should be OK to shoot anybody trespassing and looting and arson, when one enters a Foot Locker or a liquor store or a Pharmacy. We can't make laws against one group of people and not another. but that is exactly what we have done.

If we applied what the Left, Democrats are constantly telling us about excessive force by police, not shooting un-armed people no matter their intention unless it was to do bodily harm and where is the proof of that, then that Capital Police officer would have to be brought up on manslaughter charges, which I personally would not agree with. Then let's apply that same logic to every circumstance no matter the party ideology, or race. If we applied this "logic" to the Portland rioters, there would be dead bodies all over that Federal Courthouse.

Me, I'm not willing to hold that Capital Police officer guilty of being concerned for his life, "IF" we agree not to hold concerned business owners guilty from shooting anybody trespassing on their property with the intent to do harm. It either works for both groups or neither group. It is either legal to shoot an un-armed trespasser or it isn't, period but we know that isn't how the law is being applied.

And why didn't that Capital Police Officer have a non-lethal weapon he could use in a place where encountering a person with a lethal weapon is virtually non-existant?

Equal justice under the law or no justice is possible.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

"She was unarmed. You prove she was going to kill someone. Go ahead, try it."

George Floyd was unarmed as well and as best I can tell not trying to kill anyone, nor participating in mob violence directed against a bastion of democracy. Nor was Duante Wright.

Bunch of hippocrites here, justifying actions on their favored side. Sorry, but the first person to illegally enter the capital that day should have been shot dead on the spot....and may have been if secret service was involved. She just drew the short straw. Actions by all who entered are inexcusable, an affront to democracy, and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Exactly what the Left is doing but you seem to blind to see it. I would agree with you if you agree that the first BLM looter to enter a building should be shot dead. If you can't agree to that, then you sir are the hypocrite. Since I can either agree or disagree to both circumstances, I am not the hypocrite. See how that works?

Equal justice or no justice.

and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Which they are and guess what, not one of them will be executed. The fullest extent of the law does not include execution under these circumstances ( unless we agree that it should no matter who breaks a trespassing law ) and unless there is audio of Babbitt explicitly calling for somebodies death, intent to do bodily harm, what other people are yelling could not be summarily be applied to her in a court of law I would think.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bambino

She was unarmed. You prove she was going to kill someone. Go ahead, try it.

First, the officer who shot her had no idea whether or not she was armed. Babbitt was breaking the law just as hundreds of others that day. Preggolover89 laid out the scenario perfectly. She made a mistake and paid the ultimate price for that mistake.

[reddog1951]

"Floyd was a criminal. Babbit was a veteran. Floyd resisted arrest, Babbit was shot without warning. Are you really trying to make an argument here? From past posts, you’re not very good at it."

Babbitt was a violent criminal by the very nature of her actions and those of her throng that day. Being a veteran has absolutely no bearing either at that moment, or as justification; nothing but a sympathy card...an honorable veteran would not have been there. They were NOT breaking into a private residence and were NOT lawfully entering a public building. They WERE attempting to disrupt the LAWFUL action of the federal government and they WERE a credible threat to the safety of duly elected legislators and high level government officials including the Vice President of the United States. Again, if Secret Service had been engaged, many more of the trumped up antagonists would have been shot. This throng was NOT a group of patriots and those that defend their actions are not patriots either. They broke the law and threatened the fabric of our democracy and deserve whatever punishment meted out.

Cowboys should stick to football; even room for improvement there.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

First, the officer who shot her had no idea whether or not she was armed. Babbitt was breaking the law just as hundreds of others that day. Preggolover89 laid out the scenario perfectly. She made a mistake and paid the ultimate price for that mistake.

There were others beside her and Capital police behind her. He gave no warning. He just fired. Did you see the video? She clearly didn’t have a weapon. It’s as atrocious as the the others that the MSM promotes.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

First, the officer who shot her had no idea whether or not she was armed. Babbitt was breaking the law just as hundreds of others that day. Preggolover89 laid out the scenario perfectly. She made a mistake and paid the ultimate price for that mistake.

And how exactly do you think that would play, oh, say, a White cop shooting a Black person? A police officer is not supposed to shoot an un-armed person unless they think there will be immediate bodily harm like a man directly in front of him with a knife in hand.


"I didn't care whether she was armed or not and still 10 feet away from me", wouldn't be a great defense in any instance other than this but if this is OK, then I say again, shoot any un-armed person entering a locked store where they do not belong and pile them up like cord wood if they keep coming.


We could just as easily be saying "the cop made a mistake using excessive force and should pay a price", but we aren't because of the who and the where. Put a Black person into the equation and suddenly the who becomes everything regardless of the where or why. That's the problem as I see it.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

Babbitt was a violent criminal by the very nature of her actions

Her "action" was breaking a door and trespassing. I don't think you'll find execution in the criminal justice manual for that action.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

First, the officer who shot her had no idea whether or not she was armed. Babbitt was breaking the law just as hundreds of others that day. Preggolover89 laid out the scenario perfectly. She made a mistake and paid the ultimate price for that mistake.

Okay, so why did the officer and only that officer fire one shot? If there was fear in the ranks then why not a fusilade of shots by more than one officer? Sounds like that officer violated procedures and should face discipline and his identity should be revealed.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

"Floyd was a criminal. Babbit was a veteran. Floyd resisted arrest, Babbit was shot without warning. Are you really trying to make an argument here? From past posts, you’re not very good at it."

Babbitt was a violent criminal by the very nature of her actions and those of her throng that day. Being a veteran has absolutely no bearing either at that moment, or as justification; nothing but a sympathy card...an honorable veteran would not have been there. They were NOT breaking into a private residence and were NOT lawfully entering a public building. They WERE attempting to disrupt the LAWFUL action of the federal government and they WERE a credible threat to the safety of duly elected legislators and high level government officials including the Vice President of the United States. Again, if Secret Service had been engaged, many more of the trumped up antagonists would have been shot. This throng was NOT a group of patriots and those that defend their actions are not patriots either. They broke the law and threatened the fabric of our democracy and deserve whatever punishment meted out.

Cowboys should stick to football; even room for improvement there.

You make up a lot of shit. How many legislators were killed? Injured? Kidnapped? "Thousands" of people and not one single target was found...how odd. With the exception of a single policemen, whose exact cause of death is being smoke screened, every death was of a Trump supporter...how very odd.

[HedonistForever]

And some Liberal talking heads to this day, continue to say that 5 people were murdered at the hands of Trump supporters, proving once again that so many of these people simply do not care how much they lie and or embellish to make a narrative that simply isn't true. It is so disgusting.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

And some Liberal talking heads to this day, continue to say that 5 people were murdered at the hands of Trump supporters, proving once again that so many of these people simply do not care how much they lie and or embellish to make a narrative that simply isn't true. It is so disgusting.

Not one person was arrested for having a firearm either. Not one.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

First, the officer who shot her had no idea whether or not she was armed. Babbitt was breaking the law just as hundreds of others that day. Preggolover89 laid out the scenario perfectly. She made a mistake and paid the ultimate price for that mistake.

Seriously? In what world is it ok to shoot someone who you have no idea if they’re armed or not? Can I just blast some random guy who is j-walking because he’s committing a crime and may or may not be armed? Should cops be allowed to open up on someone who ran a stop sign? Your justification for killing this girl is truly frightening, the EXACT shit that genocide is made of.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Seriously? In what world is it ok to shoot someone who you have no idea if they’re armed or not? Can I just blast some random guy who is j-walking because he’s committing a crime and may or may not be armed? Should cops be allowed to open up on someone who ran a stop sign? Your justification for killing this girl is truly frightening, the EXACT shit that genocide is made of.

He’s getting up in age. Like Joey Bribes. He doesn’t believe his own eyes.

[nevergaveitathought]

Never let it be said that these two respondents let reason, intellect, understanding, law, equal treatment before the law, distinctions, the inability to follow argument, or anything else get in the way of non stop partisan blather

[Jacuzzme]

Put a little khat in the leftists and it’ll be Rwanda 2.0. Hacked to pieces for owning a MAGA hat? No problem. Pro-life? See ya. Pro second amendment? Throw your ass off a building.