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Old 08-01-2020, 02:55 PM   #31
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That is abject horseshit. Putting up a fight is why cops hard charge. It sucks to have to bite your tongue around dickhead cops but it is pragmatic. Ive been there. Running your mouth is one thing. Physically resisting is a whole different ballgame. If you try to fight a cop you get what you get regardless of color. My favorite clips from LivePD are old white bitches that refuse get out of their car when directed. Seeing that grandmother get hip tossed to asphalt is her just desserts.

We don't agree on much but on this, we do. If you do not resist or disrespect the police, you will not be thrown to the ground. It's as simple as that. You want to show your ass, you will have cuffs put on and if you resist that, your ass will be on the ground whether you are black or white, male or female.
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That is abject horseshit. Putting up a fight is why cops hard charge. It sucks to have to bite your tongue around dickhead cops but it is pragmatic. Ive been there. Running your mouth is one thing. Physically resisting is a whole different ballgame. If you try to fight a cop you get what you get regardless of color. My favorite clips from LivePD are old white bitches that refuse get out of their car when directed. Seeing that grandmother get hip tossed to asphalt is her just desserts.


We don't agree on much but on this, we do. If you do not resist or disrespect the police, you will not be thrown to the ground. It's as simple as that. You want to show your ass, you will have cuffs put on and if you resist that, your ass will be on the ground whether you are black or white, male or female.



Agree with both of You!
Treat a Police officer like a human being concerned for his/her own life - cooperate with commands, don't mouth off - and you will be treated respectfully. More than 99% of the time.

Exceptions happen - but being a perp identified as a danger to a Police officer is a good way to get One forcibly retrained - or even shot.


I recognize this is contrary to the DPST disband the Police propaganda. You want a social worker to come to your car wreck, or home invasion, or OBLM 'non-vioent' riot/looting.



Be my guest - move to minneapolis and live in DPST marxist Communes. - ie - burnt out shells with no water, gas for heat, food access, or shelter - just Marxist 'Privilege"!
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Old 08-01-2020, 04:02 PM   #33
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I'm descended from slaves on both sides. Indentured servants on one side.. and actual slaves on the other.


It would be great if people would stop conflating the two. They weren't the same, not on any stretch. Not one black person was ever asked "Hey-- do you wanna be my slave for a few years in exchange for passage to the new world?" Part of the indentured servitude contract generally required the "masters" to provide the servant with land after their term of servitude was up. We still have descendants of slavery calling for their 40 acres.


70% of slavery in its inception was the fault of tribal wars. However... over 200 years of slavery means a lot.. and I do mean a LOT of people born into slavery. Hell, Sally Hemmings traded her own freedom in exchange for the freedom of her children when they turned 21-- which was spelled out in Jefferson's will and honored by his children (they could have just said to fuck off, since black people weren't people under the laws we were founded under). You can blame the tribes for starting it.. but you have to also blame our founders for continuing it. To this day-- we have assholes in DC who choose to refer to slavery as a "necessary evil". No. No it was not necessary-- it was a choice.
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Old 08-01-2020, 04:18 PM   #34
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Slavery was an economic need of the american south - slave labor for the Plantations - as it was an agrarian society. labor was needed to produce cotton for sale to the North and England.

It waas accpted in its' time.


Does that make it right - No. Not by american and most european present day mores and laws.

I don't know anyone who has ever owned a slave in America - it is illegal - and that prohibition is accepted socially.



yet OBLM and the DPST's want 'reparations' . land for a segregated black 'mmarxust' independent country, and freedom for all blacks in prison, among other demands. And they want white deaths in the millions as part of the reparations.

And the DPST's leadership all stepped right to Al sharpton and agreed - 'I will support reparations. This is al sharpton as poverty and race-baiting pimp imposing racism and racial divide on America.



I believe in Equality under the law for all, and Equality under our Constitution for all.

Biden - if elected - can come pry reparation taxation from my cold dead hands.



Civil War is coming - fomented by the DPST's!!
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Old 08-01-2020, 05:03 PM   #35
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The reason some want reparations-- is because their ancestors were promised them and never received them. Doesn't make it right or wrong at this point-- but there is some historical context for it.



Its so funny-- I keep hearing about how "all blacks" want me dead-- yet here I am, living in a predominantly black neighborhood, with nary a problem one with anyone in the neighborhood.
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Old 08-01-2020, 07:55 PM   #36
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The reason some want reparations-- is because their ancestors were promised them and never received them. Doesn't make it right or wrong at this point-- but there is some historical context for it.

blame andrew johnson for veto of 40 acres & one mule bill. its a shame there wasn't enough votes to override johnson's veto. it should have been a slam dunk back then.
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Old 08-02-2020, 03:51 AM   #37
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Sir, I don’t think all white people feel oppressed, victimized and ready for civil war when reminded of their privilege, just those who feel they are still entitled to it. That’s a small number, as we shall see in November.
If it is a small number why is it such a big deal?

Minorities have cultural privilege - they can say what they want with impunity - witness the usage of the n-word.

If I use it I could be killed - if a black person uses it, then it is OK.
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Old 08-02-2020, 07:33 AM   #38
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I generally don’t post on political threads because there is a serious lack of civility but I have to agree somethings are fairly obvious like fighting with a cop is probably not going to end well for anyone. We do have a big problem in America with social/economic injustice. If you breakdown the stats I bet economics will breakdown very much like race stats but will include all the other race demographics of violence , jail time and deaths. Poor people go to jail and get killed by cops rich people don’t . The rich get richer and there isn’t any “ trickle down “ because they are keeping it all for themselves.
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I generally don’t post on political threads because there is a serious lack of civility but I have to agree somethings are fairly obvious like fighting with a cop is probably not going to end well for anyone. We do have a big problem in America with social/economic injustice. If you breakdown the stats I bet economics will breakdown very much like race stats but will include all the other race demographics of violence , jail time and deaths. Poor people go to jail and get killed by cops rich people don’t . The rich get richer and there isn’t any “ trickle down “ because they are keeping it all for themselves.

Imagine the world if other jobs were allowed to physically assault people who were shitty towards them. Imagine if your cashier at Walmart was allowed to beat the f' out of Karen for getting in her face-- without the possibility of losing a job.


Imagine if cops were held to the same standard as everyone else.. I mean, they should be-- most people working a normal job don't have anything on them that could kill another human quickly.
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Yes, the playerpiano, economics break down into racial classifications.

Asains, for instance, are richer than whites on average in America, in spite of their language barriers and their mostly recent arrivals to our once great country.

Plus, I would say they work harder than the blacks who rule over us.
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If it is a small number why is it such a big deal?

Minorities have cultural privilege - they can say what they want with impunity - witness the usage of the n-word.

If I use it I could be killed - if a black person uses it, then it is OK.

FF - We are all familiar with the Use of the "racist' tag to cow white folks into guilt and submission.

The 'n' word use is just typical of DPST racism and hypocrisy.

'All Lives Matter' - take that sign out and the OBLM will mob, beat and likely kill a White Person.



Note - the Associated Press has deemed the word White to never be capitalized - and the world 'Black' to always be capitalized - fuck them and their Racism. I will write as i wish and not bother with the AP


My boycott list is growing " Boycott china, AP, AND THE nba.
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FF - We are all familiar with the Use of the "racist' tag to cow white folks into guilt and submission.

The 'n' word use is just typical of DPST racism and hypocrisy.

'All Lives Matter' - take that sign out and the OBLM will mob, beat and likely kill a White Person.

Note - the Associated Press has deemed the word White to never be capitalized - and the world 'Black' to always be capitalized - fuck them and their Racism. I will write as i wish and not bother with the AP

My boycott list is growing " Boycott china, AP, AND THE nba.

some media outlets will not follow the AP style standard, they will continue to capitalize White.
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Old 08-02-2020, 12:16 PM   #44
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Imagine the world if other jobs were allowed to physically assault people who were shitty towards them. Imagine if your cashier at Walmart was allowed to beat the f' out of Karen for getting in her face-- without the possibility of losing a job.


Imagine if cops were held to the same standard as everyone else.. I mean, they should be-- most people working a normal job don't have anything on them that could kill another human quickly.

Imagine if "everyone else" treated cops the way they would like to be treated. Wouldn't that be great. You use "get in her face" as if it has no meaning. When you get in a cops face, it is perceived as a threat. Why? Because so often it is. That gun he or she is wearing is not only a threat to the person a cop is confronting, not being prepared at any second to having that weapon taken from them could mean the end of their life. Think anybody at Wal-Mart faces that reality? Or anybody else in any other job?


Here's a solution, don't "get in a cops face". That is not a "right" that one has. You have the right to question your detention or arrest in a court of law, not on the sidewalk. If one understands that and plays by the rules, 99 out of a hundred go home.


Imagine if Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta had merely complied with officers after testing positive for DUI. Instead, he decides to not only fight but fires a taser at one of the officers who if it had hit the officer in the face would have surely don't bodily injury if not kill him.


Imagine if George Floyd had not decided he would resist either being put in or taken out of a patrol car as he was order to do. Does that give a cop license to cause his death of course not but imagine if Floyd had merely complied.


I see that a newly hired Black DA can't find evidence to charge Darren Wilson in the death of Michael Brown as bad as he and millions of people wanted him to make up, excuse me, find.


Imagine if Michael Brown had complied with the police officer and didn't decide to charge a police officer pointing a gun at him.


Imagine 99 out of a 100 incidents of Black men being shot by police both Black and White police had they merely complied with commands by police something you are compelled to do by law.


Imagine what a more equal outcome of justice we would have in this country if those confronted by police in 2020 not 1950 but 2020, would merely comply with police commands but no, in 2020 the media and Democrats are telling citizens that they have a right to question their detention or arrest and even fight police if they feel they have been "unjustly" detained.


Now imagine Black militia's patrolling the streets of a city like Minneapolis, answerable to no one but their leaders and they have to shoot and kill a Black man because some fool will decide he won't be taken into custody. What then?
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HF - well written - unfortunately - the DPST's and adherents /acolytes of their lawless marxism and cop hate - are listening to John Lennon's - 'Imagine"!!!
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