REPORT: 'Whistleblower' Who Complained About Trump's Call to Ukrainian President Zelensky Revealed

[WTF]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

If

We can all speculate that if Trump is impeached by the House and not convicted by the Senate, which party will benefit the most from it.

The Democrats will benefit the most as it will drive independents away from Trump.

These Trump supporters are like the jurist on the O J Simpson trial....no amount of evidence would be enough to convict their Juice!




But the proverbial jurists in the 2020 election are the independents....not our rabid Trump lovers in this forum.

And the evidence so far is not looking good for Trump.

Trump better hope the GDP shifts into another gear. His 4.0 is barely in the 2's.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Bullshit! This country spent $30 million on an investigation and when it was done, Mueller didn't know who Glenn Simpson was or what the fuck Fusion GPS did. The "investigation" into foreign involvement into the 2016 election was a political farce. And you fantasize the investigation is "going well"?

I was not in any way referring to the Mueller investigation. But the fact is that every security expert in this country believes Russia interfered in the 2016 elections. Do you believe otherwise?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

If Trump told the Ukrainian President to investigate wrong-doing between Joe and Hunter Biden in order to receive money from the U.S., is that an impeachable offense?

The incident happened in 2016. It is now the end of 2019 and Joe Biden is one of the leading contenders trying to unseat Trump in 2020. Bad timing by Trump, if nothing else. Looks like he is taking action solely for political reasons. At no time in the past 3 years has anyone come forward and accused Joe Biden of acting inappropriately when he threatened to withheld $1 billion in U.S. aid from the Ukraine unless the Ukraine fired Viktor Sholkin. Now it is a problem.

I think the investigation is being handled rather well. A supposedly reputable person comes forward and accuses the POTUS of inappropriate behavior which may or may not be impeachable. It should be investigated. Maybe the process should have been different but there is no set protocol for impeachment proceedings. Eventually, if the full House decides that Trump's actions were impeachable, the matter will be put to a vote and I'm sure the vote will be mostly along party lines. Then it will move to the Senate for a trial and again, I expect the vote to be mostly along party lines.

We can all speculate that if Trump is impeached by the House and not convicted by the Senate, which party will benefit the most from it.

you should read the topic before you post.


And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government.


now about that dirt ..


Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446


anything else you need to know about why Trump asked Ukraine about investigating election interference from 2016?


thank you valued poster!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

The Democrats will benefit the most as it will drive independents away from Trump.

These Trump supporters are like the jurist on the O J Simpson trial....no amount of evidence would be enough to convict their Juice!




But the proverbial jurists in the 2020 election are the independents....not our rabid Trump lovers in this forum.

And the evidence so far is not looking good for Trump.

Trump better hope the GDP shifts into another gear. His 4.0 is barely in the 2's.

What evidence?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I was not in any way referring to the Mueller investigation. But the fact is that every security expert in this country believes Russia interfered in the 2016 elections. Do you believe otherwise?

What Trump was trying to get them to believe is that Ukraine interfered and not Russia....that way he can pardon Paul Manifort. That was what really Rudy was working on. That and Trump could say it wasn't Russia that helped get him elected....it was Ukraine!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I was not in any way referring to the Mueller investigation. But the fact is that every security expert in this country believes Russia interfered in the 2016 elections. Do you believe otherwise?

It's known fact that Russian operatives connected to Putin gave bogus kompromat to a foreign asset Christopher Steele who was in the employ of hildebeest. That has not yet been investigated.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by bambino

What evidence?

You're a Trumper…..just like an OJ Jurist.

No amount of evidence will convince you.

This is an impeachment for the independent voters.

So please sit down and stfu, we all know how you are voting.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

you should read the topic before you post.


And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government.


now about that dirt ..


Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.


https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446


anything else you need to know about why Trump asked Ukraine about investigating election interference from 2016?


thank you valued poster!

Where in my post #28 which you cited did I talk about 2016 Russian interference in the election? Hint: NOWHERE!!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by WTF

You're a Trumper…..just like an OJ Jurist.

No amount of evidence will convince you.

This is an impeachment for the independent voters.

So please sit down and stfu, we all know how you are voting.

independent voters won't be swayed by clearly partisan democratic grandstanding by a Obama admin holdover whistle blower who cooked up a nothing burger for Schiff to use.


Schiff will hide the whistleblower Eric Ciaramella from the house hearings. perhaps you may be aware but the trial is held in the Senate and they can call witnesses too. all members of the Senate are jurists .. guess who is not?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

It's known fact that Russian operatives connected to Putin gave bogus kompromont to a foreign asset Christopher Steele who was in the employ of hildebeest. That has not yet been investigated.

Do you believe Russians interfered in the 2016 election? Yes or no.

https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/

[WTF]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

independent voters won't be swayed by clearly partisan democratic grandstanding

We will find out in just over a year....

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Do you believe Russians interfered in the 2016 election? Yes or no.

https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/

do you believe Clinton paid foreign actor Steele to get false dirt from the Russians to interfere with the 2016 election? Yes or Yes.


BAHHAAAA

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Do you believe Russians interfered in the 2016 election? Yes or no.

https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/

I answered your damn question, you just want to ignore the reality of the fact that the Russians played ALL fucking sides. The Russians were meddling in the election BEFORE Trump was the Republican nominee -- another fact you intentionally ignore.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

do you believe Clinton paid foreign actor Steele to get false dirt from the Russians to interfere with the 2016 election? Yes or Yes.


BAHHAAAA

+1

[WTF]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I answered your damn question, you just want to ignore the reality of the fact that the Russians played ALL fucking sides. The Russians were meddling in the election BEFORE Trump was the Republican nominee -- another fact you intentionally ignore.

Is this you and bambino?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by WTF

Is this you and bambino?

Your question is a delusional manifestation of your ignorance.