Debate predictions...

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

neither did I.. why do you think I believe he did? I have written nothing that would remotely suggest I thought Trump meant that. even Waco knows that. try to argue rationally next time.



nope.. 50-50 for now. Trump had other avenues, but he bailed.. appropriating other funding sources, to use for the Wall. Trump decided to skip that idea. he has not been persuasive in his crisis arguments. Trump believes traffickers, Drug Lords and Rapists are the problem, Democrats think Leadership breakdowns in Venezuela and its neighbors, are the source of the problem. when 2 sides are that far apart, on the root cause, no wonder the crisis continues. but Trump could be remanding these people back home, like he promised.. instead he warehouses people, hoping to deter the next wave. remember early in his Presidency, when Trump and the Right touted the idea that illegals were afraid to try and come, now that Trump was in charge, they were too afraid? that is so funny to think about now.

Check what you posted. Post #24. “Mexico is not paying for the wall”

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by bambino

Check what you posted. Post #24. “Mexico is not paying for the wall”

they are not paying.. by check, deed, or any other method. in fact, they are making us pay MORE to house, feed, clothe, and medicate THEIR people, since Trump took office!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

they are not paying.. by check, deed, or any other method. in fact, they are making us pay MORE to house, feed, clothe, and medicate THEIR people, since Trump took office!

You just said you said they are “paying a little”. When in fact they are paying a lot to avoid paying more in tariffs. You said you didn’t take Trump “literally”. That’s what you said. The bottomline, Mexico is spending a significant amount of money to stop the flow of immigrants. Either thru the new trade agreement or enforcing their southern border. Both ways it’s better than it’s been for decades from them. So essentially, the money we save for Mexico’s actions, they are paying for the wall. BTW, will you admit your were wrong? The wall is being built as we speak.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

they are not paying.. by check, deed, or any other method. in fact, they are making us pay MORE to house, feed, clothe, and medicate THEIR people, since Trump took office!

Those are central Americans and not Mexicans.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

According to the Drudge Report and the Washington Examiner, Tulsi Gabbard won the debate easily. Both are considered to be right wing organs though. However, Google reports that Tulsi was the most looked up name of all those on the stage. Booker came in a distant second and only where black people reside. The people of Oklahoma were looking up that white woman Elizabeth Warren.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Here are some opinions as to the "winners" and "losers" in the first debate:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

https://nypost.com/2019/06/27/the-wi...ential-debate/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ebate-n1023066

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

no, both sides are at fault, but you insist on giving Trump a pass. remember how he was going to remand all these illegals back to their host Countries? bullshit.. he was all bluff. just like Mexico paying for the Wall.. just like "lock her up", he hasn't done shit about Hilary's crimes.

I'm curious, do you think you live in a banana republic? No president can just lock up an opponent or anyone else for that matter. There is the law, the investigation, the indictment, the trial, and the conviction before anyone gets locked up. Yeah, Lincoln was at war, Wilson manufactured evidence, and FDR said he was "protecting" Japanese-Americans. Jeff Sessions was asleep at the switch but the IG investigation is ongoing. As with everything else, things don't happen overnight especially when you have drag members of your own party with you.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Here are some opinions as to the "winners" and "losers" in the first debate:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

https://nypost.com/2019/06/27/the-wi...ential-debate/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ebate-n1023066

Three left wing publications...at least I said that my two sources are right wing. Google is not and they say the country was interested in who Tulsi was. Any news outfit that reports Blasio "soared" above everyone else needs to pee in the cup. As for the pandering Booker, can you find a smaller demographic than transgender people? Tulsi didn't talk about them...most of the country doesn't talk about them unless one does something idiotic. You never hear of a 6'2" trans-woman running into a burning building to save lives. You do hear of Bruce Jenner almost killing a woman with his car.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Three left wing publications...at least I said that my two sources are right wing. Google is not and they say the country was interested in who Tulsi was. Any news outfit that reports Blasio "soared" above everyone else needs to pee in the cup. As for the pandering Booker, can you find a smaller demographic than transgender people? Tulsi didn't talk about them...most of the country doesn't talk about them unless one does something idiotic. You never hear of a 6'2" trans-woman running into a burning building to save lives. You do hear of Bruce Jenner almost killing a woman with his car.

I did not pick the websites based on any political leanings. They are the first ones I found that gave opinions on the debates. Some of the opinions I would agree with, some not so much.

[grean]

I didn't watch. Would I be just as informed had I watched mud wrestling at strip club?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by grean

I didn't watch. Would I be just as informed had I watched mud wrestling at strip club?

The debate did highlight issues that Democrats will be focusing on in 2020. Climate change. Immigration policies. Debate over whether the Trump economy has benefited everyone equally. Gun control. Healthcare.

[grean]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The debate did highlight issues that Democrats will be focusing on in 2020. Climate change. Immigration policies. Debate over whether the Trump economy has benefited everyone equally. Gun control. Healthcare.

Ok lets see how I do. Again, I didn't watch. Tell me how close I get.

Climate Change - The world will end if we don't do something.

Immigration policy - Anything from complete amnesty to abolishing ICE but all the while insisting we will have secure borders.

Trump Bad.

Gun Control - They don't want to take our guns, only the ones they don't like.

Healthcare - Everyone, including illegal immigrants get free health care. Their plan to pay for it will not have bipartisan support EVER.

Close?

[oeb11]

Hand grenade radius close, Grean.

[Austin Ellen]

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[the_real_Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The debate did highlight issues that Democrats will be focusing on in 2020. Climate change. Immigration policies. Debate over whether the Trump economy has benefited everyone equally. Gun control. Healthcare.

May I translate; massive taxes and regulations to fight an ambiguous thing called climate change
gun confiscation and regulation of law abiding gun owners
paying off the debt of deadbeats who voluntarily took low interest loans to pay for their college so they could get better jobs
open the borders, shut down ICE, let them vote
punish the cops, believe all the criminals are innocent
what economic recovery?
medicare, free healthcare, free everything
socialism for everyone