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[catnipdipper]

You should write an article about it.

[kcbigpapa]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

You think you are funny, don't you. Your made up quotes are just sick. Not because you are making fun of religion. They are sick because it is a lie. I have no respect for someone who intentionally lies. It is not a joke when you make up stuff just to talk.

Copernicious ??? WTF, that is just stupid. I know the story of science and religion better than most. This is not funny, just stupid.

JR

I found it amusing, but if you are on a hobby website and get offended because of a satirical bible quote, then I don't know what to say.

[Guest090920]

Originally Posted by kcbigpapa

I found it amusing, but if you are on a hobby website and get offended because of a satirical bible quote, then I don't know what to say.

Exactly! I can only imagine what how he would have reacted to learning about the Book of Hesitations and Anticipations!

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by kcbigpapa

I found it amusing, but if you are on a hobby website and get offended because of a satirical bible quote, then I don't know what to say.

Big Papa,

You missed the point. This is not a quote. This is not satire. I don't care that it concerned religion - or not. It was just plain stupid.

If you follow my writing at all, you will understand that the offense is when one makes a stupid statement, and tries to cover the lie by pretending quote someone.

The offense would be the same if he had pretended to quote either Time Magazine or Mad Magazine.

JR

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by scorpio31

Exactly! I can only imagine what how he would have reacted to learning about the Book of Hesitations and Anticipations!

Now, this is funny. These books don't exist, and that is the joke.

No pretense is made to cover ignorance. The joke is on the ignorant.

Do you catch the difference?

JR

[JD Barleycorn]

The shield that all so-called comedians hide behind. If they say something intelligent or insightful they want full credit but if it turns out to be rude, intolerant, stupid, or just plain wrong then they were only kidding. So just calm down.

[kcbigpapa]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Big Papa,

You missed the point. This is not a quote. This is not satire. I don't care that it concerned religion - or not. It was just plain stupid.

If you follow my writing at all, you will understand that the offense is when one makes a stupid statement, and tries to cover the lie by pretending quote someone.

The offense would be the same if he had pretended to quote either Time Magazine or Mad Magazine.

JR

You are offended when someone makes a stupid statement? I can understand that I guess. Like this statement below which is obviously stupid.

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Catnipper,

Some of us had to read the bible when we were young. It is required reading for every educated person in western society.

Every educated person. Seriously? Not one educated person in western society is not a reader of the Bible? I bet a lot of non-Bible reading western educated smart people would take great offense to your biased statement. This defense of the Bible leads me to think your offense to Cat's post is about religion, whether you admit it or not.

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Now, this is funny. These books don't exist, and that is the joke.

No pretense is made to cover ignorance. The joke is on the ignorant.

Do you catch the difference?

JR

Are you saying the Book of Copernicious is real?

[kcbigpapa]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The shield that all so-called comedians hide behind. If they say something intelligent or insightful they want full credit but if it turns out to be rude, intolerant, stupid, or just plain wrong...

John, if these were the criteria for being a comedian, you would be the most successful comedian on this board.

[JD Barleycorn]

First, the name is not John and how about responding to what I wrote rather than hurl insults?

[kcbigpapa]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

First, the name is not John and how about responding to what I wrote rather than hurl insults?

No thanks, John, I'm fine.

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The shield that all so-called comedians hide behind. If they say something intelligent or insightful they want full credit but if it turns out to be rude, intolerant, stupid, or just plain wrong then they were only kidding. So just calm down.

Kidding can be light, or just mean. Many times have we heard some asshole say to us they were only kidding, when we know that they really meant to hurt, dig, or criticize.

It may be the asshole's most used excuse for being what he is.

As for the educated person in Western Society, this is like the political reporter that I heard state several years ago that no one reads certain books anymore (how sad). I had read them all: "The Communest Manifesto" by Carl Marx and Frederick Engels (1848), "Das Kapital" by Carl Marx, "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler (1939), "Common Sense" by Thomas Pain (One should also read the rest of his political pamphlets.)

If you have other contacts in the world you should have also read the basic works of Buddha to understand that his work was as much a psychology as a religion. Psychology did not exist in his day, and religion was the only way to express his views and teachings.

If you have contact with the middle east it would be recommended that the time be taken to read the Koran (or Qu'ran) the primary source of faith and community practice for over 1.5 billion people.

Likewise, Christianity represents roughly 1/3 of the world's population. Anyone who claims to be educated should understand the religion of over 2 billion people.

If you are involved with science work one should have also read about the development of science, and the split between science and religion with the work of Isaac Newton and other alchemists which many have classified as occult. Today we view chemistry not in religious terms, but as Newton did, as elements classified into groups. His pursuit of chemical experiment that did not work and the religious implications that did not work either have, in today's world, lead us to a greater understanding of the basic principles of science.

By the way, everyone likes sex. Just because we discuss other things here, our appreciation of sex is not an excuse to misuse others, lie, abuse, steal or just be stupid.

JR

[catnipdipper]

JR is your brain the product of past ingestion and perhaps abuse of illegal substances?

Pleeze tell me that you do not own weapons or even sharp objects of any kind.

[kcbigpapa]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Kidding can be light, or just mean. Many times have we heard some asshole say to us they were only kidding, when we know that they really meant to hurt, dig, or criticize.

It may be the asshole's most used excuse for being what he is.

As for the educated person in Western Society, this is like the political reporter that I heard state several years ago that no one reads certain books anymore (how sad). I had read them all: "The Communest Manifesto" by Carl Marx and Frederick Engels (1848), "Das Kapital" by Carl Marx, "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler (1939), "Common Sense" by Thomas Pain (One should also read the rest of his political pamphlets.)

If you have other contacts in the world you should have also read the basic works of Buddha to understand that his work was as much a psychology as a religion. Psychology did not exist in his day, and religion was the only way to express his views and teachings.

If you have contact with the middle east it would be recommended that the time be taken to read the Koran (or Qu'ran) the primary source of faith and community practice for over 1.5 billion people.

Likewise, Christianity represents roughly 1/3 of the world's population. Anyone who claims to be educated should understand the religion of over 2 billion people.

If you are involved with science work one should have also read about the development of science, and the split between science and religion with the work of Isaac Newton and other alchemists which many have classified as occult. Today we view chemistry not in religious terms, but as Newton did, as elements classified into groups. His pursuit of chemical experiment that did not work and the religious implications that did not work either have, in today's world, lead us to a greater understanding of the basic principles of science.

By the way, everyone likes sex. Just because we discuss other things here, our appreciation of sex is not an excuse to misuse others, lie, abuse, steal or just be stupid.

JR

Rationalize it all you want, but you were wrong. Also, are you saying you are free of the "misuse others, lie, abuse, steal or just be stupid," part of your post?

[Seomon]

"As for the educated person in Western Society, this is like the political reporter that I heard state several years ago that no one reads certain books anymore (how sad). I had read them all: "The Communest Manifesto" by Carl Marx and Frederick Engels (1848), "Das Kapital" by Carl Marx, "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler (1939), "Common Sense" by Thomas Pain (One should also read the rest of his political pamphlets.)"

@ JR

Did you REALLY read Mein Kompf??? Just so you could get inside of the head of Adolf Hitler???? BEEEEEE ZAAAHHHRRR bro. I was a History major and never once did a professor of mine advocate reading it. Marx, Engels, and Pain yes. Adolf Hitler NO! Nothing and I mean absolutely NOTHING can be learned from Mein Kompf. So sayeth me and all my History professors from that expensive college I went to.

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by Seomon

"As for the educated person in Western Society, this is like the political reporter that I heard state several years ago that no one reads certain books anymore (how sad). I had read them all: "The Communest Manifesto" by Carl Marx and Frederick Engels (1848), "Das Kapital" by Carl Marx, "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler (1939), "Common Sense" by Thomas Pain (One should also read the rest of his political pamphlets.)"

@ JR

Did you REALLY read Mein Kompf??? Just so you could get inside of the head of Adolf Hitler???? BEEEEEE ZAAAHHHRRR bro. I was a History major and never once did a professor of mine advocate reading it. Marx, Engels, and Pain yes. Adolf Hitler NO! Nothing and I mean absolutely NOTHING can be learned from Mein Kompf. So sayeth me and all my History professors from that expensive college I went to.

Yes I read Mein Kompf my senior year of High School. I had read about all of the problems of the extermination camps during WWII and how bad the war was, and how wrong the German's had been. In 7th grade there was a reference in my history book about how the ancient Germans has "loved war". My reason for reading it was as Paul Harvey says now: to get "the rest of the story".

I am not any of the following: Buddist, Muslin, Communest, Marxist, or a psychologist.

I have read all of the works mentioned. What did I learn from Mein Kompf? I learned what was being said to about 19 million people in 1939 at the start of WWII. Further readings in chemical history has lead to a deeper understanding of just why Hitler was funded by the industrial sector of German Society in his rise to power. That doesn't mean he was right. The question is: Why was he believable to a large number of Germans? Why did so many people follow, and support him?

There is always another point of view besides the one in our society. That is what is learned by reading alternate works.

Nothing is 100% good, as we see with the recent problem of priests and children in the Catholic Church. That doesn't mean the Catholic Church is 100% bad.

JR