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10-10-2017, 05:17 PM
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Looking for my ATF
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... how many times over the years have you heard something reported and drawn a conclusion from the initial disclosure, but later on after a more complete investigation the facts as originally reported are modified, clarified, and/or recanted and replaced with the correct information?
That's the danger of releasing information to the press ....
... and worse yet, leaks, which are usually partial, incomplete, and tainted!
The person standing up there answering questions is repeating what he was told (as he recalls it) ... I've seen the Sheriff ask someone off camera several times about specifics and passes on answering the question. Again, there have been numerous caveats! I'm not saying it's the case here: but they will release false information and wait for it to come back to them from a source with whom they are interacting ... and they will not mention key elements so that fake sources can't know those elements so they can verify if someone knows what the fuck they are talking about to them ....
.. this investigation is still ongoing and sounds international in scope.
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I have never seen the time line of a shooting change so radically as reported by the police themselves at press conferences over a weeks time. They went into detail with charts describing how Jesus the security guard stopped the mass shooting, about a week later the same people report just the opposite, that now he was the first person shot.
That is a MAJOR detail that is easily cleared up by simply asking Jesus himself. This information came from the sheriff with the FBI standing next to him at press conferences, not the media. This stands out like a broken arm.
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10-10-2017, 05:38 PM
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#32
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the why he did does not really matter.
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It does to WTF ... apparently ...
.... because he thinks it's important!
You know? To prosecute the dead guy!
After all, that's what they do on all the TV cop shows he watches!
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10-10-2017, 06:18 PM
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Does anyone find it strange that George Zimmerman barged into the room and head shot Paddock? Or that they caught Woody Harrelson's Dad on the roof of the Luxor with a .50 Barret with a bump stock?
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10-11-2017, 09:16 AM
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#34
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
the why he did does not really matter.
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
It does to WTF ... apparently ...
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Why then is Law Enforcement looking so hard for clues as to the why you know the MOTIVE?
You two seem to think you know the MOTIVE , yet LE is still looking. Are you two implying they are incompetent?
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10-11-2017, 07:58 PM
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Why then is Law Enforcement looking so hard for clues as to the why you know the MOTIVE?
You two seem to think you know the MOTIVE , yet LE is still looking. Are you two implying they are incompetent?
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never said they were incompetent.
there some cases that are impossible to divine motive. this is one of them.
unless they find something in paddock's system and that is just getting started.
they are doing it because that is their job.
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10-11-2017, 09:00 PM
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The shooter was a registered Democrat so his mental illness is well documented.
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10-12-2017, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
unless they find something in paddock's system and that is just getting started.
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.. one should inquire as to WTF's "motive" for insisting on a "clear motive" (whatever the fuck that is!) .... because he's created a "red herring" as demonstrated by the word "clear"!
The "clearest" motive is the one shown by the existing facts, as opposed to supposition, speculation, and/or circumstantial evidence. The existing FACTS show that his "motive" was to "visit" upon the concert goers maximum suffering and death in the shortest period of time.
All of WTF's other bullshit ... is just that ... bullshit!
If you don't believe me ... what his posts to follow!
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10-12-2017, 07:14 AM
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there some cases that are impossible to divine motive. this is one of them..
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Please tell LexusLover...many of us realize that we may never find his MOTIVE. Unlike LL , we do not have to make up a reason.
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.. one should inquire as to WTF's "motive" for insisting on a "clear motive" (whatever the fuck that is!) .... because he's created a "red herring" as demonstrated by the word "clear"!
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All of Law Enforcement (except you) are looking for the reason he did what he did. They have put up billboards looking for any clue as to his MOTIVE.
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10-12-2017, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
.. one should inquire as to WTF's "motive" for insisting on a "clear motive" (whatever the fuck that is!) .... because he's created a "red herring" as demonstrated by the word "clear"!
The "clearest" motive is the one shown by the existing facts, as opposed to supposition, speculation, and/or circumstantial evidence. The existing FACTS show that his "motive" was to "visit" upon the concert goers maximum suffering and death in the shortest period of time.
All of WTF's other bullshit ... is just that ... bullshit!
If you don't believe me ... what his posts to follow!
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Slow learners usually benefit from repetitive presentations...
let's see if WTF does, because he's about as slow as they come!
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10-12-2017, 05:03 PM
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. IMO the "search" for a "motive" at this point and all the hand wringing about a "motive" is purely an attempt to shift "blame" on a political or social group ... ?
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So you do not know the MOTIVE....yet you had previously claimed you did.
You seem to think he was a Sadist that had no other MOTIVE other than to inflict pain.
That in fact may be true....the problem is there is no evidence to back up your theory.
He just as easily could have believed that killing those people put them in heaven and any physical pain they suffered would be relieved x a million in Heaven.
See how stupid things can spin out of control with out evidence to back up your theory Counselor?
The fact of the matter is that we have no evidence of any MOTIVE as of now...and we may never ever do so!
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10-12-2017, 05:11 PM
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10-13-2017, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
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He's the LAUGH who keeps on giving a reason to LAUGH!
BTW: Listened to someone who does know WTF he's talking about, unlike Mr. LAUGH-WTF, who was discussing an explanation for some of the "confusion" with the time line and other alleged "facts."
He mentioned the Hotel is issuing conflicting information from that of LE/FBI, and their motive is modifying the timeline etc to protect themselves from liability .... the "issue" had to do with the difference in the in-house detective originally being touted as being responsible for stopping the shooting to where the FACTS are today that the first shooting was 200 rounds into the hallway hitting the in-house UNARMED "detective" AND a delay of almost 10 minutes from the firing INSIDE THE HOTEL before an "alert" was put out ....
... which normally would require the approval of the "MOD" at the time as is typical of hotels (My comment).
So far there have been no reports I've seen or heard that Paddock was using any weapons with noise suppression on them and I can't imagine no one on the 32nd floor was "alarmed" by a 200 round burst of rifle fire on their floor (I've heard loud voices in the hall of nice hotels) ... and at least called the desk to complain of the loud noise that sounded like gunfire.
The internal scramble and failure to instantly call 911 may have cost a lot of lives and a lot of injuries even though Paddock started shooting rather quickly after his burst inside the Hotel....apparently there were some on duty officers at the hotel who were not notified initially.
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10-13-2017, 07:51 AM
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The internal scramble and failure to instantly call 911 may have cost a lot of lives and a lot of injuries ev.
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More supposition on your part Counselor?
I thought you liked to wait for all the accurate facts to come in before making accusations....
So far you have , without any accompany proof , given us a motive for the Shooter and now with conflicting reports out in the public spree, assigned the Hotel as responsible for more deaths.
The fact of the matter is we still do not know the actual motive or it appears the correct timeline. Yet you seem to think you have solved the case and assigned blame.
What Law school did you graduate from? Outhouse U?
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10-13-2017, 08:31 AM
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He's the LAUGH who keeps on giving a reason to LAUGH! ....
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WTF is still bringing down the house with laughter!
Yet another curtain call!
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10-13-2017, 08:39 AM
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WTF is still bringing down the house with laughter!
Yet another curtain call!
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Quoting yourself again
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