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Old 08-04-2017, 11:58 PM   #31
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Your link does not say anything about a "single payer system". Also, it states that if the health insurance companies as we know them (Aetna , BCBS, Cigna) evolve they will be fine. The ACA is only for 10% of the population. The other 90% get group health insurance from the employer, Medicaid or Medicare (for those over age 65). It does not say that these so called "Accountable Care organizations" are funded by the government From your link:

In a March 2, 2014, article in The New Republic, titled “Insurance Companies as We Know Them Are About to Die,” Emanuel writes that Obamacare “will force insurance companies to evolve or become extinct.”
The unabashedly partisan health care expert explained how Obamacare created “accountable care organizations (ACOs)” that directly compete with private insurance companies in the government-created “exchanges and for exclusive contracts with employers.”
“Over the next decade many of these ACOs and hospital systems,” Emanuel wrote, will develop, or purchase the “actuarial capacity to predict and manage financial risk,” an area where private insurance companies currently dominate.
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Old 08-05-2017, 12:18 AM   #32
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Prove me wrong or crawl back under the house or the rock whichever you prefer.


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Old 08-05-2017, 02:36 AM   #33
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Well, according to today's news, Chicago is getting ready to be hit by a 44% HIKE In their obamacare rates.. Hope they are happy voting for him and hillary..
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:15 AM   #34
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Your link does not say anything about a "single payer system".
"His" link makes no difference. That was, and is, the strategy of the Liberals with Obaminable leading the charge. The flaw in the "single-payor" system is the same as ObaminableCare. The "devil" is in the details of the REGS, WHICH WILL BE FULL OF EXEMPTIONS!

If EVERYONE from the POTUS (and his family) all the way "down" (or "up" depending on how one views the office) WERE REQUIRED to have the EXACT SAME COVERAGE BY AN ACT OF CONGRESS with NO SUPPLEMENT or face a minimum of 10 years in PRISON (not probated sentence) ... it would NEVER BE ENACTED INTO LAW.

(It would probably also be unConstitutional.)

As long as this country has at least three tiers of health care coverage available for the RESIDENTS ... and a 4th tier if one considers the uninsured to be a "tier" ... any government run program will be a failure for the nation AS A WHOLE!

How is the Federal Government going to tell Gates, et al, he can only receive health care within the one of the United States?
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Old 08-05-2017, 10:01 AM   #35
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this is a extension of this post. was going to add more didn't have time to so.

this is in reference to Congress's illegal healthcare bailout by executive order.

https://thefederalist.com/2017/08/01...s-health-care/

So the Obamacare law terminated the coverage members of Congress previously had through the Federal Employee Health Benefit (FEHB) program, required them to sign up on the Obamacare exchanges, and provided no employer contribution.

Obama directed the Office of Personnel Management to issue a rule (78 Fed. Reg. 60653-01) purporting that Congress, which has thousands of employees, is a small business and therefore: “the DC Health Link Small Business Market administered by the DC Health Benefit Exchange Authority, is the appropriate SHOP from which Members of Congress and designated congressional staff will purchase health insurance in order to receive a Government contribution.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/artic..._congress.html


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...ption-n2362489

forgot one more link.

send a petition letter to donald trump

http://action.americancommitment.org...n/letter?zip=/
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The problem is ... that's not factually what happened. If a member wanted an employer (aka taxpayer!) contribution they had to sign up through the portal. They could obtain coverage elsewhere ... like if their spouse covered them through the spouse's coverage with the spouse's employer.
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