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Outdoorsman · 02-24-2010, 02:25 PM

I guess I can put my .02 cents in. I agree with a lot that has been said. Supply and demnad, economic hardships, pricing, get what you pay for, etc. etc.

I look at it simple, I cannot control the market, I cannot control what others do - high prices, low prices, attitude, GFE - whatever. I can control how I respond to it and what I chose to do and who i chose to see.

I have seen porn star ladies advertise $700 per hour, not gonna happen for me I do not think the product is worth the pirce - period. I hope she finds lots of suitors and is happy with her business, just not for me. I have ATFs I can see knowing what I am going to get for half the price. I will not condemn her for her prices I will just chose to move on and give it no more thought.

On the flip side I have seen ads where price is as low as $80 for hh. I again chose to move on. I do not think I will recieve the product or service I am looking for. I want GFE for at least an hour. $160 per hour in my experience is not GFE, so not for me. Again I wish her well and hope that her business is thriving and I hope her clients are happy, just not for me thats all.

There is service out there for everyone in this hobby. Did you read the thread about foot jobs and saran wrap? Find what you like and can afford and have fun. If it pleases you tell us about it, if not thats okay too. I know I like to review so I do - simple. I know I like the service at $$$ per hour range so I do it - simple.

Have fun everyone!!!

Kaylee · 02-24-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pornodave69

That's part of my point. It is a luxury item for most and luxury items are the first things to go when money is tight. They're also the first to lower rates to get business back. Right now Vegas hotels, cruise lines, resorts and the like are offering deep discounts with half off or more rates just to stay afloat.

At some point, if/when things get worse and money is much tighter, many of the higher priced ladies might have to resort to lower rates just to get any business at all. Escorts are not recession/depression proof. No money to spend = no money to earn. Is it possible that those who dabble in the HDH realm drop down to the $300 to $400 ladies and keep them busy? Sure, but then the HDH ladies have to drop their prices. Unless you're selling something with actual overhead and expenses that must be recouped, prices can't go below a certain point in order to make a profit. Most women could manage to wear the clothes they already have and do their own hair, makeup and nails, so other than a hotel, overhead is very little, especially if they work out of their house. It's almost all profit and price can go much lower if need be.

And then there are some of us who just can't get lucky at a bar. So for us it is a "necessary" sort of thing to keep sane and not put a bullet in our head.

Good save Dave but no you won't die without the pussgggy. Sorry no sympathy there. You are correct that if an escort "needs" this business to survive she is pretty much at the mercy of what she can get. I would never put myself in that position period, which is why I make wise investments, save, and have other income. I do this for play money and shopping sprees, and love the travel and the fact that I can see who I want at the price I can get. Notice I said "can get," and that is not always the case. Plenty of girls will just start leaving town a few days a month rather than let the market dictate what they should charge, or offer discounts because they don't have to. For girls who live in dorm rooms and have a waitress job, sure they might need to take what they can get if their living expenses are more than they make.

It really is not about greed or who is better, but rather what any given individual feels her time is worth. Just like you guys have the option to pick and choose, a few of us have that same luxury not being a victim of the market. I love traveling and do so about twice a month around my other obligations. I have found that has been much more fruitful and less time consuming then staying in my local area. In 4 days I can pull in 3-5 thousand and that is with no more than 2 appts per day, only one being fs. I have noticed many girls doing this exact thing and making bank. If you are only charging 4 and you go to an area where 6 is easy to get, or it's a small town with no hot girls, you will do very well your first few trips. Guys always want to see the new hot, young girl on the block and if she offers cim and greek at a price of 4-500 she is going to be very busy. Well if you go a different place every month you are ALWAYS that new girl. Makes sense right. I take very good care of my regulars because I feel they have earned the right through constant support and respect, to garner that extra time or discount. Contrary to what people say there are MANY HDH companions in Texas getting what they want for a rate. Again, they don't lower it because they are just here playing around and have another job that already makes them over what most of us make in the civie world.

After taxes I only clear around 4500 from my pro job, so I need at least an extra 2-3 a month to live comfortably, not lavishly. I own 2 properties that I get rent from, have IRA's, and a nice savings, so within 2 years if I play my cards right, I will retire all together quite comfortably. Perhaps grow old in Destin with my dog or something or marry and work in admin if I so choose. I just have a huge issue with guys who try and de-value a woman just because they can't afford them. If you are a crack head, no offense and my sympathy goes out to you, but you will be taken advantage of. Look at that pregnant girl and what she has to resort to. It is sad all the way around what some guys will do just to get a nut, and even sadder what some women have to do to survive.

Guest031210-2 · 02-24-2010, 08:34 PM

Saran wrap and footjobs, hmmm. You just aint sucking on my toes dude! LOL

Seriously, for those guys hittn that 80 buck special, uhhh, wanna bet whose weenie starts to rot and fall off first.

then do some splaining to the wifey about that one.

I guarantee you will be the joke of the nurses station at the nursing home in your golden years.

EWWWW!

laoilman · 02-24-2010, 08:46 PM

To each his own, there's something out there for everyone. Chella when I told you that avatar was killing me that was a joke, this one really is. Please go back!

Guest031210-2 · 02-24-2010, 08:55 PM

You oughtta see my sexy red glittery shoes I be wearing hunny! HAHA!

And I agree to each his own, but frankly, I keep notes, and those who be eaching his own and being a risk to me aint nevah evah going to be graced by my delightful presents(lmao intended misspelling) in other words, ya keep reviewing high volume hunnies, streetwalkers etc. I wouldnt be talking to ya fo sho! Too much of a health risk, and I dont want nuttin to do with no crusty one eyed tallywhacker of death with stuff you know there aint no cure for.

MrGiz · 02-24-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chellablaine

.... and I dont want nuttin to do with no crusty one eyed tallywhacker of death with stuff you know there aint no cure for.

Ahhhhh... you always were, quite the sweet-talking charmer, Chella!

Guest031210-2 · 02-24-2010, 10:21 PM

Awww sweatheart, now you know I had you in mind when I wrote it. ALWAYS thinking of you dear. MUAH!

Jacquie · 02-25-2010, 10:45 AM

Let me just say that it is perfectly feasible to survive on three thousand dollars a month. It seems I might be quite a bit younger than you, so I don't have all the financial obligations that you do. I drive a brand new car that's paid in full. My rent is relatively low and always has been--I don't have to live in the best digs ever, because I'm never home anyway. Plus, I'm not in a settled enough state to want to purchase a home. Like that wouldn't look sketch to my family and friends! I have very few bills, and I mostly do this for tuition, play money, and my own personal fetish for the act. I raise my rates as I see fit. It's statistically true that the girls in the $$$$-$$$$$$ range are doing poorly in comparison to $$.50-$$$, which is what I charge now. That's not to say that they take on more clients. --I've never seen more than three in a day ever, and I'm not even doing providing full time.

I do not have diseases. I have never nor will I ever have a drug problem. I've never even seen a real pimp, I often wonder if they exist, but I'm pretty suburban.

As for suggesting that these men pick up women in bars, you and I both know that's not a sure thing. Not all men have enough charisma, confidence, or social aptitude to make that happen. Hell, one of my best guy friends who has all that, money, and good looks has trouble getting laid in a bar. Some of them have recently divorced and have been off the dating market for so long, they don't know where to begin in that realm. Also, he could be throwing away money on drinks for women that are the "homeless" you've described. Women in bars are also blatantly unpredictable. And, if you bring the wrong one home, she could send you off with rape charges. Who here also got the lecture in their Catholic school that if you're under the influence and someone fucks you that's rape? I know lots of girls with lawyer daddies who do that shit for fun and attention. Does anyone want to deal with that brand of psycho?

Why do you bother with this profession if it's your intention to devalue other women yourself? Honestly, I think your masked remarks were absolutely degrading and appalling. You're obviously an educated woman, so is it necessary to waste your busy schedule on feeding the fire of dated stereotypes? Step off the soap box in the undoubtedly cute shoes you're probably wearing. Understand that what you do works for you, and what I do works for me... that goes for other girls too.

pornodave69 · 02-25-2010, 10:49 AM

Well said, Jacquie.

April Showers · 02-25-2010, 10:53 AM

I am very curious... If you guys were to be the ones to set the rate scale, how would it be set? What you expect for what you were paying?

Jacquie · 02-25-2010, 11:01 AM

To further hammer in my point about the bars, I've officially never gone home with a random dude that I met at a watering hole ever... and, well, I'm a hooker. Ha ha.

pornodave69 · 02-25-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by April Showers

I am very curious... If you guys were to be the ones to set the rate scale, how would it be set? What you expect for what you were paying?

How about we reverse the roles here. Ladies, what would YOU pay for a guy to service you for an hour? What would YOU be willing to pay? I'm willing to bet the number is not very high. Let's assume for the moment that you're not very attractive and overweight. You can't get picked up by a guy even at 3 AM and last call on a Saturday night. How much would you pay a guy to fuck you? Even if you were good looking and just wanted to get laid - what price would you pay?

Will you feel the same way when the shoe is on the other foot?

Outdoorsman · 02-25-2010, 11:51 AM

Oh April I love that question. How would I set the rate? Well, naturally my first thought is as cheap as possible, with expectations of mega hour GFE and all the menu items. But that is the easy response.

This industry to me is just like every other. I expect more when I pay more. I can eat steak at Outback for medium range dollars in the restaurant business or I can go to Delmonico's and eat steak paying a much higher price. I expect to get more for my dollar. In my experience Delmonico's has much better service, valet parking available, more staff to serve my table, better cut of meat, not processed cooked by high school students, prepared by a chef, etc. etc.

So, in my hobby I expect to get GFE when I pay $$.5 or higher per hour. At $$$ per hour I have been provided beverages, and extra time to complete and time for me to wind down after an amazing romp. I have had ladies clean me with warm towel, take care of cover application, dress in very sexy clothing, all the little things I enjoy. If I were to pay $160 per hour, my expectation would not be so high - one pop, did I bring my own cover? are you done yet? etc.etc. But to be honest I have never been with someone who charges that low so I really do not know. But me I do not want to feel rushed, I do not want to have to bring covers, etc. so I pay what the market dictates and what I can afford. Nothing worng with payihng $160 per hour for what a person wants, just not for me that's all. What is great is there is a niche and $ range for any one's appitite.

For example, I cannot afford a lear jet, hence I do not have one, I cannot afford live-in maids or butlers, thus I do not employ any. I am blessed though that I can afford to eat at Delmonico's once in a while and I can treat myself to some of the $$$ range services provded here. I am grateful for that.

Guest031210-2 · 02-25-2010, 12:10 PM

I tried to resist...really really I did!

OK PORNODAVE! in the words of the famous Chris Rock....

"DICK IS FREE!"

But in all fairness....Id pay more to know I wasnt getting a disease. If I knew he was selective, low volume, wasnt seeing just anyone,then sure, Id shell it out, why not? Ive know a few guys who are smoking freaking hot and in the biz, they WONT see old obese women, even if they are wealthy, just some things they wont do, and I dont blame them, and the poor ones cant afford to even look at them. They get paid MORE per hour than most ladies in this area. Oh and they give GREAT massages too.

But if you should know, the ones who hire them, these ladies are extremely good looking and fit, middle aged and some in the late 20's. Not the ones that you assume cant pick up the 3am drunk for whiskey dick. Your stating out of desperation someone hiring a companion, not always true. Now I guess a broke chick would have to pay less, but seriously, Ive never heard of a guy that wouldnt hit it no matter what she looked like. Men are just dawgs! My guy friends always talk about being drunk not caring how unattractive the chick was, in their great words, at that time, "a hole is a hole" and the beer blinders were on.

pornodave69 · 02-25-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chellablaine

I tried to resist...really really I did!

OK PORNODAVE! in the words of the famous Chris Rock....

"DICK IS FREE!"

But in all fairness....Id pay more to know I wasnt getting a disease. If I knew he was selective, low volume, wasnt seeing just anyone,then sure, Id shell it out, why not? Ive know a few guys who are smoking freaking hot and in the biz, they WONT see old obese women, even if they are wealthy, just some things they wont do, and I dont blame them, and the poor ones cant afford to even look at them. They get paid MORE per hour than most ladies in this area. Oh and they give GREAT massages too.

But if you should know, the ones who hire them, these ladies are extremely good looking and fit, middle aged and some in the late 20's. Not the ones that you assume cant pick up the 3am drunk for whiskey dick. Your stating out of desperation someone hiring a companion, not always true. Now I guess a broke chick would have to pay less, but seriously, Ive never heard of a guy that wouldnt hit it no matter what she looked like. Men are just dawgs! My guy friends always talk about being drunk not caring how unattractive the chick was, in their great words, at that time, "a hole is a hole" and the beer blinders were on.

There's lots of free pussy too. If you're good looking enough you can get good looking girls (or any girl), if not, some will take whatever they can find. I rarely get laid outside of the hobby (which is why I do it) but there are still many women I'd turn down. I do have standards - they may drop to a certain level, but I'll never go to the bottom of the barrel.

But, you still haven't given an amount. If you wanted to/needed to go buy some dick what price would you pay until you started bitching that it was too overpriced?

Come on ladies. Fair is fair. What would YOU be willing to pay and at what price would YOU say, "No way! That's too much for dick!"

Ladies are always saying that women can charge what they want or are comfortable with regardless of how they look. If a BBW wants to charge $500/hr then so be it - she's worth what she thinks she's worth. Most guys, on the other hand, would beg to differ. They may pay $500 for a knockout with a killer body, but no more than $200 for a BBW IF they even were interested.

So, if what is the value of dick if the guy looks like Matthew Mcconaughey or some other "dream boat" of a guy compared to a John Lovitz type or Chris Farley. I'd bet your pay scale would change quite a bit given these choices. But still, how much is too much?