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SteveOTX · 08-07-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsportster

Interesting read in today's North Texas Daily (ntdaily.com)

They have no right putting !VI!'s real name on there. Now everyone at UNT will know.

And that quote about !VI! declining to comment is TOTAL B.S.

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Originally Posted by CG2014

YOU AGAIN????

Who are you? Her PR person? Her mouth piece?

The midget we keep reading about?

Sean speaks the truth, that is all you need to know at this time.

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Originally Posted by Golden Man

Sean, there is a real smoking gun in the thread link in your earlier post. It's post number "4"!. Leaving me with no doubt that she was always in control of her account.

1.Why would the so called pimp insinuate she was being forced into fucking guys on Eccie.
2. If you go back and read post made under VI , it's very obvious all of the post were written by the same person.
3. Anybody you has ever had any in person dialogue with VI, will also likely agree that the tone and style of writing in her post are a very much like her in person character and tone.
4. If you look at videos she shot in her dorm room, they are of a bunch of young guys just fucking her as a sport, none of there appeared to be compensating her for the action.
5. If this guy was a pimp, he was a piss poor pimp who who couldn't manage himself or his alleged whore, he'll VI spent most of her time on this site getting banned for fighting and insulting other providers and posters.

It just seems your view of the boyfriend and the shit show as a whole is very similar that of the other roommate mentioned in the article.

These are a bunch of ridiculous accusations that make no sense whatsoever.

And let me end this by saying that this news story once again proves everything that we all already knew. That being !VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" done over the past 4 years.

As far as I'm concerned !VI! should be allowed to return to UNT with open arms as she clearly has done nothing wrong.

TinMan · 08-07-2016, 03:08 PM

Beetlejuice!

Technically, Sean, yours is the conspiracy theory, and your dogged persistence in making it the established final say on the matter is what has people so suspicious of you.

I believe the conventional wisdom is still the closest to the truth: that both these individuals are pathological liars who found themselves in a fantasy world that got out of their control. Vi is likely seeking treatment, which she either sought out in earnest or because it was the latest form of manipulation available to her. We will probably never know.

The thing is, we can both fit the facts into whichever narrative we choose. It is odd, though, that a member who has been largely silent since he joined Eccie chooses now to become active with his insistence to now impart "the truth" upon the rest of us.

Now THAT is a conspiracy theory!

sean rider · 08-07-2016, 04:00 PM

Two providers, working with the same pimp but at different times, both quit, and then both make posts where they out themselves. You think the coincidence of two acts that make no sense is more likely than the simple story of the pimp impersonating and outing them in revenge? Really?

The evidence is clear, the pimp was posting here as her, she didn't go crazy and post porn of herself with her real name, and what I posted weeks ago is relatively consistent with the published article.

So long as I'm not misrepresented or attacked, I'm done here.

SteveOTX · 08-07-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TinMan

I believe the conventional wisdom is still the closest to the truth: that both these individuals are pathological liars who found themselves in a fantasy world that got out of their control.

Wrong, only one of them is a liar and we all know which one that is.

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Originally Posted by TinMan

Vi is likely seeking treatment, which she either sought out in earnest or because it was the latest form of manipulation available to her. We will probably never know.

More ridiculous and outlandish assumptions. And you know this how?

Guest092216 · 08-07-2016, 04:17 PM

Orrrrrr..... One woman (!VI!) recruits another (eevee) and also posts under her mandle (jkwhatshisname). VI outs eevee when eevee decides she's done dealing with the bullshit.

That's a much more likely scenario.

sean rider · 08-07-2016, 04:25 PM

Can't resist. The "eevee" stuff happened and was over before the "!VI!" stuff happened.

If folks really want to talk about this, please catch up with known facts like the sequence of events first.

mrredcat43 · 08-07-2016, 04:45 PM

I'm sorry, but my give a shit is busted

TheEccie214 · 08-07-2016, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveOTX

They have no right putting !VI!'s real name on there. Now everyone at UNT will know.

I actually agree with you for once. If vi was a victim, and she wasn't arrested for anything according to the multiple news stories I've read, she should be afforded the opportunity to move on with her life.

Guest092216 · 08-07-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sean rider

Can't resist. The "eevee" stuff happened and was over before the "!VI!" stuff happened.

If folks really want to talk about this, please catch up with known facts like the sequence of events first.

Consider me caught up. Search is your friend.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=eevee

Golden Man · 08-07-2016, 05:25 PM

Sean, a few things, first I do believe that jjkageab12 and the boyfriend or the same person and secondly I do believe believe that he was complicit and a party to VI's actions, and I believe she was a willing party. I based this on a conversation I had with someone(a provider)who dealt with the two of them. I also believe by reading her her post, both pre and post outing that she was the one in control of both her Eccie and her phone.

One thing I have always said is that while VI was immature and crazy based on her behavior, but she was and is by no stretch of the imagination dumb, actually I believe she is quite intelligent, and the boyfriend while several years older was probably in over his head in the ability to think and brain matter category with her. Read her through tumblr blog, the girl stated she had a plan to place the blame for being a prostitute on him and in the end she would win because as she states in the blog "she's white, her family is well off and this is Texas" and she executed that plan. I have stated in the past that I hope she could get herself together , because she is young and hopefully has a lot of life ahead of her, but I just don't believe she is a total victim in this shit show.

The only people who really know the truth(or their version of the truth) are those two.

sean rider · 08-07-2016, 05:40 PM

I believe if you check the dates of the posts you mention they will be after the break up and approximately coincident with the outing posts. Pre-emptive posts by the pimp.

The question you have to address, again, is the basic one. Why would a girl getting out of the business post her real life identity, post porn of herself with real life identity, run ads inviting clients to meet her at her *parents* real life address, make posts pleading with the general public to come rape her, etc?

And if your answer is that it was all part of her plan to take down her former pimp...

Why is it the same thing happened to a provider with the same pimp long before !VI! had her problems with him?

Occam's razor: the pimp outs girls that leave him.

sean rider · 08-07-2016, 05:53 PM

Meant jokingly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

Guest092216 · 08-07-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sean rider

I believe if you check the dates of the posts you mention they will be after the break up and approximately coincident with the outing posts. Pre-emptive posts by the pimp.

The question you have to address, again, is the basic one. Why would a girl getting out of the business post her real life identity, post porn of herself with real life identity, run ads inviting clients to meet her at her *parents* real life address, make posts pleading with the general public to come rape her, etc?

And if your answer is that it was all part of her plan to take down her former pimp...

Why is it the same thing happened to a provider with the same pimp long before !VI! had her problems with him?

Occam's razor: the pimp outs girls that leave him.

I'm not saying it's a plan to to take down a former pimp. She never had a pimp. It was her. Her outing the girl who left.

sean rider · 08-07-2016, 07:34 PM

Here is the thread with the very first eevee post. Way back at the end of 2010.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=148315&highlight=

Please note the first post documenting a pimp who listened in on the date from his car. Recall !VI!'s odd habit of having her cell phone in use during dates.

And remember...the phone number eevee listed for *texts* traces back to the (now jailed) pimp. He was definitely setting up her dates.

And you've still not explained why !VI! would out herself as she's going out the door to leave the business. She had every reason *not to* and her pimp had a revenge reason for doing so.

(Also, let's be sure to not forget that this (now jailed) pimp has *confessed* to felony theft, breaking parole, and purchasing 4 illegal hand guns. He was also exposed in the cosplay community as a con man who, among other things, used multiple online handles to create his scam identity. And he definitely made death threats. He's hardly the naive victim you seem to want to portray him as.)

Guest092216 · 08-07-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sean rider

Here is the thread with the very first eevee post. Way back at the end of 2010.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=148315&highlight=

Please note the first post documenting a pimp who listened in on the date from his car. Recall !VI!'s odd habit of having her cell phone in use during dates.

And remember...the phone number eevee listed for *texts* traces back to the (now jailed) pimp. He was definitely setting up her dates.

And you've still not explained why !VI! would out herself as she's going out the door to leave the business. She had every reason *not to* and her pimp had a revenge reason for doing so.

(Also, let's be sure to not forget that this (now jailed) pimp has *confessed* to felony theft, breaking parole, and purchasing 4 illegal hand guns. He was also exposed in the cosplay community as a con man who, among other things, used multiple online handles to create his scam identity. And he definitely made death threats. He's hardly the naive victim you seem to want to portray him as.)

Actually the story outlines the reasons why he says he is innocent of the charges.

And why would she?

Pretty simple: she's BSC.