Comey Defends Decision Not To Recommend Indictment of Hillary

[gnadfly]

Politico (often an arm of the DNC) had this article in which the classified documents were not properly marked.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...n-email-225224

14. Emails were not properly classified
Asked about the three documents with the “c” markings suggesting that the lines included classified information, Comey told Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-Pa.) that they were not properly marked in accordance with the State manual.
“According to the manual, if you’re going to classify something, there has to be a header on the document, right?” Cartwright asked, to which Comey responded in the affirmative.
Asked whether there was a header that contained the “c” in the text, Comey said the “c” denoting classified material “was in the body in the text but there was no header on the email or in the text.”
“So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert at what's classified and what’s not classified and we're following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified,” Cartwright remarked. “Am I correct in that?”
Comey called it a “reasonable inference.”
15. Comey said Clinton gave non-cleared people access to classified information
As the hearing wound down, Chaffetz asked Comey whether Clinton’s attorneys had the security clearances needed to go through her emails, the FBI director answered that they did not.
Asked whether that concerned him, Comey responded, “Oh yeah, sure.”
Moments later, Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon tweeted, “To be clear, the lawyers who sorted through Clinton's emails had Top Secret-level clearance.”
Clinton’s personal attorney David Kendall said last August that he had received Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information clearance from the Justice Department and Top Secret clearance from State, noting that his law partner, Katherine Turner, received State clearance in September 2014. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) later wrote to the State Department to indicate that the clearances are inadequate to have received the information from Clinton.
As he concluded his questioning, Chaffetz asked whether Clinton gave “non-cleared people access to classified information.”
“Yes,” Comey said, repeating, “Yes.”
“What do you think her intent was?” Chaffetz followed up, continuing his line of questioning about Clinton's intent.
“I think that was to get good legal representation and to make the production to the State Department,” Comey said. “I think it would be a very tall order in that circumstance, if I don't see the evidence to make a case that she was acting with criminal intent in her engagement with her lawyers.”

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

So, the Secretary of State is so inept and stupid that she does not realize that she is receiving classified documents on her unsecure private server, and her server is vulnerable to anybody with the initiative to hack into it.

That's comforting.

That's what he's professing. He wants an idiot as President, .... again!

And ignoring 2 years of email bullshit ... Hillary and the DNC get hacked AGAIN!!!

They are still using EMAILS .... to plot their crimes ... no wonder they can't defeat ISIS .... ISIS stopped that shit a year ago ... and went quiet!!!!

Now they are admitting the Russians grew smarter during their administration (Obaminable and HillaryNoMore) and have figured out how to HACK their information that they can't hide from the Russians!!!!!!! Sure wasn't TRUMP!

[Jackie S]

Everybody keeps saying what an honorable man Comey is. His actions in this case speak of something else.

We all know now why The Senate hesitated in their consent of Lynch as Attorney General. I Guess the question she should have been asked as......."Ms Lynch, would you ever be compelled to compromise your standards in an investigation, even if a former President of the United States cornered you and told you too"?

The true test of one's character is revealed in how they react to a situation when they believe nobody is looking. I Guess Ms Lynch forgot that somebody is always looking.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Ms Lynch forgot that somebody is always looking.

What she doesn't forget is that "everybody" is not reporting what they see!

In the initial offering of her name I supported the decision on her history as a U.S. Attorney, which others seemed to praise as well. She sets the standard for "teaching old dogs new tricks" ... and in the future her confirmation process deficiencies might create a more stringent process with regard to anyone else ... it certain gives one pause when a person seems on the surface fit for a job in which independence from political considerations is paramount.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

So, the Secretary of State is so inept and stupid that she does not realize that she is receiving classified documents on her unsecure private server, and her server is vulnerable to anybody with the initiative to hack into it.

That's comforting.

The emails were not marked "Classified" at the time they were sent. That makes a difference. According to the Washington Post from the link in post #16, the burden is on the sender to put the correct security classification on an email. From the link.



Material not allowed on non-approved systems

Federal rules prohibit sharing classified material on non-approved or personal systems. Regulations dictate the burden is on the sender of an email to classify its security clearance level.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...clinton-email/

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

The emails were not marked "Classified" at the time they were sent. That makes a difference.

No it doesn't. It doesn't if the recipient has instructed for the "Classification" to be removed, and it doesn't if the recipient KNOWS the information is the type of information that is considered "Classified" and should not be on a nongovernmental computer system programmed to prevent hacking.

You posted it yourself:

"Federal rules prohibit sharing classified material on non-approved or personal systems."

You are erroneously assuming that the phrase "classified material" refers to some labeling or title to a document or the email transmitting the document, and that is simply not the case. That phrase refers to the content, meaning the SUBSTANCE of what is in the document. That follows the generally accepted "rules of construction" with respect to statutes, contracts, and documents filed in courts .... the controlling matter is the substance of the document, and not the title or how it is designated.

You are trying to make excuses for her. There are none. She is a self-proclaimed authority on all things Government, and has been a lawyer. She has even announced she knows what "Generals" know! (I'll put aside how she knows what Generals know today for the moment, as being bullshit though! Unless it is a retired/former general with whom she visits for advice, and then I can question what that "general" knows and how HE knows it.)

The more you try to make excuses for her, just like the more she tries to make them, the dumber she looks and the less competent she portrays herself. She's banking on THE FACT that too many people want her in office as a CLINTON and/or THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT.

Those are not qualifications that should be considered in a decision to vote. The country has problems that are too urgent and serious to make "emotional" decisions on who should be the President for the next 4 years.

Like almost all Presidential elections we are down to 2 choices ... the Clintons created at least some of the problems we have either in Bill's terms or during Hillary's while she was working for Obaminable or as a U.S. Senator. All three (Bill, Obaminable, and Hillary) proclaim that her experience during those years should be considered in the decision making. Then do it!

You are spending page after page picking around and splitting hairs on words to justify something that she have never happened in the first place: placing government foreign policy related emails on a computer at home!!!!!!

I know an engineer who was summarily fired over 50 years ago from a "sensitive" aircraft manufacturing facility because he went home and did not lock his desk, which was located in a secure, LOCKED room IN THE FACILITY! He was fired when returned to work the next day.

Give me a fucking break! You really want her as a President?

She's even gotten caught sharing "inside" information with her daughter!

[The Eternal Bachelor]

This likely explains Comey's actions

http://www.blacklistednews.com/FBI_D...38/38/Y/M.html

[LexusLover]

Ya'll don't try to click on the link. You will get auto downloads of shit.

Here's the "meat" ... do your own research independently ...

“In 2004, Comey, then serving as a deputy attorney general in the Justice Department, apparently limited the scope of the criminal investigation of Sandy Berger, which left out former Clinton administration officials who may have coordinated with Berger in his removal and destruction of classified records from the National Archives. The documents were relevant to accusations that the Clinton administration was negligent in the build-up to the 9/11 terrorist attack.”

“Curiously, Berger, Lynch and Cheryl Mills all worked as partners in the Washington law firm Hogan & Hartson, which prepared tax returns for the Clintons and did patent work for a software firm that played a role in the private email server Hillary Clinton used when she was secretary of state.”

“Hogan & Hartson in Virginia filed a patent trademark request on May 19, 2004, for Denver-based MX Logic Inc., the computer software firm that developed the email encryption system used to manage Clinton’s private email server beginning in July 2013. A tech expert has observed that employees of MX Logic could have had access to all the emails that went through her account."

Not from the linked site, but the same topic.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

No it doesn't. It doesn't if the recipient has instructed for the "Classification" to be removed, and it doesn't if the recipient KNOWS the information is the type of information that is considered "Classified" and should not be on a nongovernmental computer system programmed to prevent hacking.

You posted it yourself:

"Federal rules prohibit sharing classified material on non-approved or personal systems."

You are erroneously assuming that the phrase "classified material" refers to some labeling or title to a document or the email transmitting the document, and that is simply not the case. That phrase refers to the content, meaning the SUBSTANCE of what is in the document. That follows the generally accepted "rules of construction" with respect to statutes, contracts, and documents filed in courts .... the controlling matter is the substance of the document, and not the title or how it is designated.

You are trying to make excuses for her. There are none. She is a self-proclaimed authority on all things Government, and has been a lawyer. She has even announced she knows what "Generals" know! (I'll put aside how she knows what Generals know today for the moment, as being bullshit though! Unless it is a retired/former general with whom she visits for advice, and then I can question what that "general" knows and how HE knows it.)

The more you try to make excuses for her, just like the more she tries to make them, the dumber she looks and the less competent she portrays herself. She's banking on THE FACT that too many people want her in office as a CLINTON and/or THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT.

Those are not qualifications that should be considered in a decision to vote. The country has problems that are too urgent and serious to make "emotional" decisions on who should be the President for the next 4 years.

Like almost all Presidential elections we are down to 2 choices ... the Clintons created at least some of the problems we have either in Bill's terms or during Hillary's while she was working for Obaminable or as a U.S. Senator. All three (Bill, Obaminable, and Hillary) proclaim that her experience during those years should be considered in the decision making. Then do it!

You are spending page after page picking around and splitting hairs on words to justify something that she have never happened in the first place: placing government foreign policy related emails on a computer at home!!!!!!

I know an engineer who was summarily fired over 50 years ago from a "sensitive" aircraft manufacturing facility because he went home and did not lock his desk, which was located in a secure, LOCKED room IN THE FACILITY! He was fired when returned to work the next day.

Give me a fucking break! You really want her as a President?

She's even gotten caught sharing "inside" information with her daughter!

And her son-in-law ...

Hildebeest Sought Secret Info On EU Bailout Plans To Aid Son-In-Law's

Hedge fund manager Marc Mezvinsky had friends in high places when he bet big on a Greek economic recovery, but even the keen interest of his mother-in-law, then-Secretary of State, hildebeest, wasn't enough to spare him and his investors from financial tragedy.

(Fox)

[MT Pockets]

It comes down to this.

She asked for a secure email and was told she didn't need it. She was sent emails that were not marked classified and forwarded them. Later they were marked as classified. She did not break the law. I keep hearing how she should have been more careful, how about the fuckers that said she did not need a secure email because she did not have the clearance. Who sent her the fucking emails? Apparently whom ever sent them had the credentials to have them but they sent them to an unsecured email. WTF? I got it, they did not break the law because they were not marked classified at the time is that it? GOP logic.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by MT Pockets

It comes down to this.

She asked for a secure email and was told she didn't need it. She was sent emails that were not marked classified and forwarded them. Later they were marked as classified. She did not break the law. I keep hearing how she should have been more careful, how about the fuckers that said she did not need a secure email because she did not have the clearance. Who sent her the fucking emails? Apparently whom ever sent them had the credentials to have them but they sent them to an unsecured email. WTF? I got it, they did not break the law because they were not marked classified at the time is that it? GOP logic.

She was told to use the secure system that was in place at the State Department, and her requests for exceptions were denied. Comey said your bitch should have known better and that she was stupid for not knowing better. Comey added that anybody else doing what hildebeest did could expect to be prosecuted. Hildebeest broke the law, and she is still being investigated for violating the FOIA.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

She was told to use the secure system that was in place at the State Department, and her requests for exceptions were denied. Comey said your bitch should have known better and that she was stupid for not knowing better. Comey added that anybody else doing what hildebeest did could expect to be prosecuted. Hildebeest broke the law, and she is still being investigated for violating the FOIA.

He's got you there, MT.

[MT Pockets]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

He's got you there, MT.

Not really. If she had broken the law he would of charged her. He wanted to he just could not find any real evidence. Plus he would have opened the door on a bunch of other folks starting with those that sent her the emails and then dont forget about Rice, Powell and the RNC/Bush debacle.


Funny her server was better than the one mentioned LOL.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politi...ck-worst-ever/

What is sad is I am sure she has done something wrong but either the GOP is too stupid to find it or they are all up in it themselves.

[CuteOldGuy]

Nah. He got you. Just deal with it. Clinton's who break the law don't face consequences.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by MT Pockets

Not really. If she had broken the law he would of charged her. He wanted to he just could not find any real evidence. Plus he would have opened the door on a bunch of other folks starting with those that sent her the emails and then dont forget about Rice, Powell and the RNC/Bush debacle.


Funny her server was better than the one mentioned LOL.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politi...ck-worst-ever/

What is sad is I am sure she has done something wrong but either the GOP is too stupid to find it or they are all up in it themselves.

You're lib-retarded clown. Powell used secure State Department computers to receive and transmit classified information, and Rice didn't use email at all. And you are lying Kool Aid sotted minion when you suggest that Rice and Powell set up an insecure server to conduct 100% of their State Department business: they didn't.

Odumbo and others certainly would have been implicated in any investigation. They knew and didn't report hildebeest's violations of the law, and knowing and not doing anything about it is also a violation of the law.