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04-06-2014, 05:37 PM
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Join Date: Mar 16, 2011
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Originally Posted by dirty dog
This post sounds like SS is getting burned again. Which provider is it this time. How much money did you give her? Why do you keep falling for this crap? Why don't you go save run aways, addicts or the homeless and stop trying to save hookers.
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Exactly, DD. And notice that SS hasn't been back to this thread.
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Not saying y'all are wrong but possibly presumptive..
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04-06-2014, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dirty dog
... Why don't you go save run aways, addicts or the homeless and stop trying to save hookers
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. I know some people like to use he term, but I have known so many ASPs that are truely good people!
[QUOTE=Gemma34;1055166670And really??... The pimp beats ho story???..... Spare me...[/QUOTE]
I wonder how many providers and men who are profiting from them, directly or indirectly and how many relationships invovle hitting?
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04-06-2014, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by malwoody
Not saying y'all are wrong but possibly presumptive..
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Well, it's not 100% certain that when SS starts a thread like this it's because he's butthurt about a provider that he tried to play Captain Saveaho with.....
But that's the way to bet.
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04-07-2014, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MsElena
I'm sure most guys in the hobby have slept with one at some point. Some you can tell, others you can't.
Leaving a pimp isn't as easy as some would believe. Of course, there are excepts to the rule.
Some pimps are no different from a man who abuses his wife or women in general. They beat you down, just not physically, but mentally. You aren't allowed any credit cards in your name, you're not allowed to have a bank account strictly in your name, you have no "petty" cash, you're shut off from family and friends. The list goes on.
Some madams are just like male pimps, but again there are excepts to the rule. I worked for a madam who was great to work for. She took a small portion of my fees, but I was happy to pay her because she advertised, she screened and she booked my clients. Basically, pretty much what an assistant does for some ladies. The only difference, she had established clientele.
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Let's be honest. There are some providers in this hobby who could benefit from some good management. How many times have we seen a post from a provider who is broke, in trouble, needs help, has nowhere to turn? Even some high-dollar girls post those from time to time.
Let's say that those girls got involved with a manager. Not a pimp, a manager. He handles the marketing and logistics, as well as screening. Expenses (hotel, advertising, etc.) come off the top, and then the manager takes 50% for himself. 25%, he also takes but places in a rainy-day fund (or savings account if you prefer) for the provider. 25% goes to the provider for walking around money. He treats her well, and she stays clean. If there are issues with LE, medical, etc., that's handled as a business expense, not out of her cut. He makes sure that she never has to post on Eccie that she's broke with noplace to go.
I will guarantee you that there are providers (some but certainly not all) who, under 3 years of this arrangement, would have a lot more left over (the savings account) than they would under their own management.
OK, flame away.
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04-07-2014, 11:56 AM
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Ks,
Yes, some ladies do need a manager. But, in this business its very hard to find someone who is trustworthy.
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04-07-2014, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kshunter
Let's be honest. There are some providers in this hobby who could benefit from some good management......
OK, flame away.
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No flame Ks....well written. Yes, if it was just management. The % seem a little high, and wonder how many actually have an arrangement of that nature? Might make an interesting survey on the National side?
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Ks,
Yes, some ladies do need a manager. But, in this business its very hard to find someone who is trustworthy.
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I would tend to agree with MsE on this one. Male of Femaie management. I do wonder about that, and would legalization make much difference?
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04-07-2014, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ss4699
I wonder how many providers and men who are profiting from them, directly or indirectly and how many relationships invovle hitting?
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My statement was not aimed towards you babe. I just get a kick out of the providers who are known to have pimps, yet get on here and use the classic 'pimp beating ho' or 'pimps are disgusting' story to cover up their own asses actually having pimps. As I said, spare me...
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04-08-2014, 12:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
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REVERSE TO TEST
When you can't understand something, like why a woman would allow herself to be pimped, it often helps to reverse the situation and put yourself in her place.
So here goes:
Let's say that you're a male prostitute, and you bang chicks for money. To make this work, women are going to have to be as attracted to your old ass as much as you are to those sexy TGTBT spinners on Backpage. We'll also have to change your client base to legal-to-30 and under 150 lbs just so your dick can function. Now that reality is tweaked let's continue.
Okay. You've got a lady pimp. She takes care of you and protects you. She fucks you whenever she wants and you're happy to get fucked by her because she's hot. Not only that, but she wants you to fuck all her girlfriends. Scratch that. She makes you fuck all of her girlfriends. Sometimes they even gang bang you. She even goes so far as to place ads and make you fuck random chicks that come to your hotel room.
For banging hot chicks all day and all night you get thousands of dollars of untaxed cash. $$$
Your she-pimp takes a chunk of that, but you don't give a shit because you love your job. Sometimes she even smacks you around. Who cares? Not you! You just laugh it off and have some chick suck your dick and ride you cowgirl. You set your own hours and drink and smoke what you like when you like.
Now some do-gooder comes along and offers to "save" you from this lifestyle so you can work 29 hours a week at Walmart. You tell them to fuck off, right?
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04-08-2014, 12:55 AM
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It's all about choices. Everyone has a choice. But nobody can make someone choose something. And at the end of the day, we have to live with the choices we make.
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04-08-2014, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Longermonger
When you can't understand something, like why a woman would allow herself to be pimped, it often helps to reverse the situation and put yourself in her place.
So here goes:
Let's say that you're a male prostitute, and you bang chicks for money. To make this work, women are going to have to be as attracted to your old ass as much as you are to those sexy TGTBT spinners on Backpage. We'll also have to change your client base to legal-to-30 and under 150 lbs just so your dick can function. Now that reality is tweaked let's continue.
Okay. You've got a lady pimp. She takes care of you and protects you. She fucks you whenever she wants and you're happy to get fucked by her because she's hot. Not only that, but she wants you to fuck all her girlfriends. Scratch that. She makes you fuck all of her girlfriends. Sometimes they even gang bang you. She even goes so far as to place ads and make you fuck random chicks that come to your hotel room.
For banging hot chicks all day and all night you get thousands of dollars of untaxed cash. $$$
Your she-pimp takes a chunk of that, but you don't give a shit because you love your job. Sometimes she even smacks you around. Who cares? Not you! You just laugh it off and have some chick suck your dick and ride you cowgirl. You set your own hours and drink and smoke what you like when you like.
Now some do-gooder comes along and offers to "save" you from this lifestyle so you can work 29 hours a week at Walmart. You tell them to fuck off, right?
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Even though it isn't, I hope this is was intended to be funny. Maybe 1 out of a million pimped girls have "Her place" that is anything like this "reversal" of yours.
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04-08-2014, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by floppydisk
A pimp once said: "Uncle Sam is the worlds biggest pimp"
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correct
did you see Matt Taibbi on Jon Stewart also, as he pimped his book
The Divide: American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap
He talked about how the banks who stole a billion dollars and got no puishment, vs a guy who got 47 days at rikers prison from having a joint in his pocket
And in his newest book, Taibbi sets out to explain what he thinks is a strange state of affairs:
"Poverty goes up. Crime goes down. The prison population doubles.
Fraud by the rich wipes out 40 percent of the world's wealth. The rich get massively richer. No one goes to jail."
http://www.npr.org/2014/04/06/297857...p-is-exhibit-a
its an interesting read
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04-08-2014, 02:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 5, 2010
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There's probably more than a few hobbyists who could use a manager/advisor as well. How many guys have we heard about that get busted by LE, wife, or SO because they are careless in the way they go about their business? Or the ones who get burned by the tgtbt BP girls they didn't take time to research? Or the dude who spends his rent money on one more blowjob? People make poor choices on both sides of the fence.
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04-08-2014, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ScubaBad
Even though it isn't, I hope this is was intended to be funny. Maybe 1 out of a million pimped girls have "Her place" that is anything like this "reversal" of yours.
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It was humorous Scuba...and I agree there are very few. And the hobby has caused pain on both sides. So maybe legalization is the key to saving the world of the hobby. The finanical world is a whole different story however. And the uncle sam comment is pretty right on from many view points. The punishment should have been there but like the office who got "favors" for not arresting a few weeks ago in KC, the "law makers" get "favors" too. So, let's take that away too?
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04-08-2014, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 6, 2010
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testimonials?
To me, Gemma nailed part of it, the part about making choices, the right ones.
She also suggested that there are ladies in our midst who have pimps, managers and/or baby-daddy-managers, but hide that fact and I don't doubt that a bit.
So, girls, those of you with pimps, managers and/or baby-daddy-managers, tell us please, why you allow someone to run your business and life and is it a good situation or not?
We might as well hear from the girls who are pimps, managers or advisors about how they got into that role and why.
I won't toss out the names I have been made aware of, so relax and speak up!
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04-08-2014, 08:21 AM
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I would love to know this too.lol
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Originally Posted by scorpio31
To me, Gemma nailed part of it, the part about making choices, the right ones.
She also suggested that there are ladies in our midst who have pimps, managers and/or baby-daddy-managers, but hide that fact and I don't doubt that a bit.
So, girls, those of you with pimps, managers and/or baby-daddy-managers, tell us please, why you allow someone to run your business and life and is it a good situation or not?
We might as well hear from the girls who are pimps, managers or advisors about how they got into that role and why.
I won't toss out the names I have been made aware of, so relax and speak up!
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