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Old 01-09-2024, 02:35 PM   #31
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Lol having a sign and a fake prop does not constitute an insurrection.

No credibility because you post an article and state trump never said peaceful protest and u aren't mature enough to admit u were wrong as were others.... deflection is all u try

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Trump never said to make the protest peaceful.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-report-2024-1


As Donald Trump watched rioters storm the Capitol on television on January 6, 2021, one of the president's top aides drafted Trump's first tweet that urged protesters to remain peaceful, ABC News reported.
Last year, a congressional panel investigating Trump's role in the January 6 events outlined how the former president was reluctant to call in additional law enforcement to stop rioters during the first few hours of the Capitol breach and instead spent much of his time watching television or making calls to his attorney and Republican allies.


New details of what went on inside the White House during that time show Trump needed the hand of Dan Scavino, who was his deputy chief of staff and is now senior advisor to Trump's reelection campaign, to try to calm protesters.


Scavino was one of dozens of witnesses interviewed by special counsel Jack Smith's team as part of the Justice Department's probe into the former president's actions on January 6. The ABC News report is based on sources' knowledge of Scavino's testimony.


As the Capitol breach unfolded, a small group of people around Trump, including Scavino, tried to persuade him to send a forceful message to the protesters, sources told ABC News.

Instead, after about 20 minutes of urging, Scavino and others left Trump alone in the White House dining room, which is when Trump posted a tweet disparaging Vice President Mike Pence for not having "the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country," the sources said.

They told ABC News that the tweet shocked several aides, including Scavino, the only other person with access to Trump's Twitter account.
Trump's aides and White House counsel Pat Cipollone once again tried to urge Trump to send a strong message to the protesters, the sources said.


Scavino then printed out several tweets to propose to Trump, sources told the outlet.

Around 2:38 p.m. local time, a tweet was posted on Trump's Twitter account: "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"
The post would be the first tweet urging Trump's supporters to remain calm, according to a timeline of the former president's tweets on the day of the riots.


A Trump spokesperson said in an email to Business Insider that "media fascination with second-hand hearsay shows just how weak the Witch-Hunt against President Trump is. Dan Scavino is one of President Trump's longest-serving, most loyal allies, and his actual testimony shows just how strong President Trump is positioned in this case."
ABC News sources said Scavino told federal investigators that Trump remained reluctant about putting out more messages on Twitter.


The sources recalled Scavino saying Trump listened, "but he was just not interested at that moment to put anything out."
Scavino's attorney Stanley Woodward declined to provide a comment.




Shocker! Trump never said 'peaceful protest' in his twatts. Soooo... insurrection! Yea, insurrection!


Trump sandwiched in the words 'peaceful protest' in between two buns of inciting violence against his vice president and the rest of the country.


As I said before, one right doesn't make the hundreds upon hundreds of wrongs right.



But once again, If J6th wasn't an insurrection, then what was it?


What were people doing breaking into the capitol?
What were they doing building a gallows and chanting to hang Pence?


You're playing from the GOP's playbook. Deflect and change the subject. If it wasn't an insurrection, what was it? Does the GOP consider breaking and entering, trespassing, and threatening to murder elected officials peaceful? What the fuck kind of backwards world does the GOP live in if that's the case?\
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Trump sandwiched in the words 'peaceful protest' in between two buns of inciting violence against his vice president and the rest of the country.


As I said before, one right doesn't make the hundreds upon hundreds of wrongs right.



But once again, If J6th wasn't an insurrection, then what was it?


What were people doing breaking into the capitol?
What were they doing building a gallows and chanting to hang Pence?


You're playing from the GOP's playbook. Deflect and change the subject. If it wasn't an insurrection, what was it? Does the GOP consider breaking and entering, trespassing, and threatening to murder elected officials peaceful? What the fuck kind of backwards world does the GOP live in if that's the case?\
Sorry but not playing into anyone's handbook. It wasn't an insurrection, if it was, people would have been charged and convicted of that. It was a protest, plain and simple. Those who broke in should and have been charged unlike the people who burned police cars and attacked a federal building in Portland and other places.

It s you who buy into the bullshit. It's you who posted trump never said peaceful and its u who aren't mature enough to admit you were wrong.
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Old 01-09-2024, 08:49 PM   #33
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It's amazing how insurrectionist treasonist traitor tRump and his ill-informed maga followers will twist facts and parrot radical right-wing extremist bullshit.

Many oath keepers and proud boys were convicted of seditious conspiracy and obstructing an official proceeding. They just as easily been charges with an insurrection.

"What is seditious conspiracy?

It is a federal crime found in Section 2384 of Title 18 of the United States code. That law makes it a crime for two or more people to actively plot to overthrow by force the federal government, to levy war against it, to unlawfully seize federal property or “by force to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law of the United States.” A conviction carries a sentence of up to 20 years in prison.

Is sedition the same thing as insurrection?

While they clearly overlap, “sedition” centers more on plotting and incitement, whereas “insurrection” is generally understood to mean the actual violent acts of an uprising aimed at overthrowing the government.

That said, the federal law against insurrection, Section 2383, slightly blurs that line. It says that “whoever incites, sets on foot, assists or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto” is guilty of that offense. Its penalty is up to 10 years in prison and disqualification from holding federal office."

The insurrectionist treasonist traitor tRump called for a stop the Steal rally, worked the morons in the crowd into a frenzy. Spewed his lies, "we won the election by a landslide". "We will stop the steal". "We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen". "If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore".

Trump’s dereliction of duty during the 187 minutes he refused to ask his supporters to end their violent occupation of the Capitol, his failure to mobilize federal forces to secure the building, and his active encouragement of the rioters by tweeting that “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done”.

So the ill-informed magas can keep trying to parrot far-right conspiracy theory extremist news sources and vomiting up that January 6th wasn't an insurrection. The facts show it was definitely an insurrection and tRump was the cause of the insurrection.
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