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Originally Posted by LexusLover
No, I'm not. But I can discuss intelligently THE ISSUE of whether or not an UNDERAGED PERSON can "break the law" when the UNDERAGED PERSON is physically put in a position over which they have no control to be in violation of "the law" while at the same time when being put in that position lacks the mental capacity to knowingly and intentionally violate that "law"!
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Lexus. Does a kid who benefits from dad/mom's illegal crimes such as living in a house paid for by drug money, having clothes paid for by robberies, watching a tv paid for by thefts, GET TO KEEP those items once daddy gets done for those crimes? NO.. THEY GET punished by losing them.
SO WHY should kids that parents brought here illegally, get to benefit when we deport the parent, by NOT deporting them too?
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
I said nothing about making them "legal" ... I said temporarily not deport them until Congress has addressed the issue .... what ever that final legislation says.
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And how long is that 'temporary not deport them' going to stand for? 5 years.. ALREADY DONE THAT.. 10 years? 20? Doesn't sound so temporary to me..
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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Let's go back to the bank robbery analogy; if a criminal takes a minor to rob a bank, we don't punish the minor unless we think they were old enough to "know better" and they acted of their own accord. So if a 17 year old or 16 year old crosses the border with their parents...we may have to a different decision than an 8 year old. We don't give the afore mentioned child the proceeds of a robbery though. A dreamer should not be handed a legal status or citizenship without a fee or penalty. I also believe in one strike and you're gone. Avoid breaking the law, learn the language, a want to be a good citizen.
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And for those saying "Lets let them stay if they don't break the law"..
LEGALLY they can't work - cause of their illegal alien status. BUT HOW MANY DO work? Quite a few, and most do so either using forged/fake/stolen IDs (ANOTHER CRIME), or for Cash under the table jobs (ALSO A CRIME).. So if they are working, that's at least 2 crimes right there, one for working without proper authority, one for either working without proper documentation (so they can pay ALL proper taxes, or using fake/stolen IDs).
If they are receiving welfare/ebt or any other government handout, which last i checked, LEGALLY THEY are not entitled (and thus shouldn't be getting) that's another crime as it comes under the heading of defrauding the government.
So even if they don't become drug dealers, rapists, robbers, and the like, BY JUST staying here and either illegally working, or collecting government largesses, they are still breaking the law..
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Originally Posted by WTF
Yes thats the American spirit! Let's even kick out kids.
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And what's your answer?? Let them stay indefinitely?
