20 Dead in Terrorist Attack at Ariana Grande Concert

[grean]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

For every 1 Muslim that's not extreme, there is 9 that want to Keeel you , the religion damans that they "get there way" by any means

Again, not so.

[grean]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

For every 1 Muslim that's not extreme, there is 9 that want to Keeel you , the religion damans that they "get there way" by any means

6.9 billion total people in the world

2.2 billion are Christians

1.6 billion are Muslims

3.1 are of some other regions


Of the 1.6 billion Muslims, there are only around 100k that have some extreme or radical view that want to keel anyone....

That's barely half a percent of the total Muslim population.


Let's stick to what Donald says and just call them evil losers. Then you get a solid 0% of terrorism from Muslims.

By the way Muslims will out number Christians by 2050. And yes, in the US too.

All that to say your statement is baseless.

[Chung Tran]

I heard reports that Ariana Grande is offering to pay the funeral expenses for those killed at her concert.. nice gesture.. better than Pete Townshend's, after 11 people were trampled to death before a Who concert, in December, 1979.. all he and the other band members did was send "flowers to the fucking funerals"..

https://books.google.com/books?id=-g...nshend&f=false

[grean]

Very loving gesture. I hope the young lady does not feel guilty though. I hope the families don't blame her. Mad men are to blame here.

[rexdutchman]

READ the Koran Not me saying that , The sooner we understand that small point the better !!!!!!

[grean]

The Koran and the Christian bible are filled with verses that can be interpreted and twisted to justify violence.

https://www.splcenter.org/20150212/lone-wolf-report

Yep...more violence in baby jesus' name that Ala in the US.

99.95% of Muslims are good normal decent folk who do not interpret their holy book in that way.

I've read lots of the koran and the Christian bible cover to cover.

It's easy to say Muslims are inherently violent. That doesn't make it true.

[goodolboy]

Originally Posted by grean

6.9 billion total people in the world

2.2 billion are Christians

1.6 billion are Muslims

3.1 are of some other regions


Of the 1.6 billion Muslims, there are only around 100k that have some extreme or radical view that want to keel anyone....

That's barely half a percent of the total Muslim population.


Let's stick to what Donald says and just call them evil losers. Then you get a solid 0% of terrorism from Muslims.

By the way Muslims will out number Christians by 2050. And yes, in the US too.

All that to say your statement is baseless.

("Of the 1.6 billion Muslims, there are only around 100k that have some extreme or radical view that want to keel anyone.")

Source?

I have a hard time believing that. The CIA reported that we have killed over 10K ISIS solders in the last 9 months In Syria & Iraq alone.
"U.S. official: 10,000-plus ISIS fighters killed in 9-month campaign" http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/03/middle...ict/index.html

[grean]

Originally Posted by goodolboy

("Of the 1.6 billion Muslims, there are only around 100k that have some extreme or radical view that want to keel anyone.")

Source?

I have a hard time believing that. The CIA reported that we have killed over 10K ISIS solders in the last 9 months In Syria & Iraq alone.
"U.S. official: 10,000-plus ISIS fighters killed in 9-month campaign" http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/03/middle...ict/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/opinion/bergen-schneider-how-many-jihadists/


http://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/trumps-false-muslim-claim/


Also Pew Research polls. You'll need to Google those. I don't have them handy.

[grean]

Fox, a "fair and balanced" news source disputed Trumps number and gave 100k as an approximation given by experts.

[Vivienne Rey]

A lot of good in those books too. Can't highlight one and pretend the other doesn't exist. I mean, you can, but not if you want to be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by grean

The Koran and the Christian bible are filled with verses that can be interpreted and twisted to justify violence.

https://www.splcenter.org/20150212/lone-wolf-report

Yep...more violence in baby jesus' name that Ala in the US.

99.95% of Muslims are good normal decent folk who do not interpret their holy book in that way.

I've read lots of the koran and the Christian bible cover to cover.

It's easy to say Muslims are inherently violent. That doesn't make it true.

[goodolboy]

Originally Posted by Vivienne Rey

A lot of good in those books too. Can't highlight one and pretend the other doesn't exist. I mean, you can, but not if you want to be taken seriously.

Personally I am Agnostic, I am basing my opinion largely by the number of incidents, and body counts in modern times.

I am not aware of any recent Christian terrorism that approaches the current scale of Islamic terrorism in the world today. The Crusades ended in the sixteenth century.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by goodolboy

So why are so many of these attacks in Europe instead of America?

Lots of reasons. Biggest one is the USA has one hell of a great CIA, FBI, Intelligence Agency, etc. Obama just didnt try to scare the hell out of everyone like the GOP does

[Guest050619-1]

Originally Posted by themystic

Lots of reasons........Obama just didn't try to scare the hell out of everyone like the GOP does

Scattershooting....while relaxing on the patio....smoking a brisket, enjoying a glass or two....yes, my Memorial Day weekend has begun a little early. Oh, well...

Dear God.....I just wish Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters could be potus for, hmmmm maybe 4 to 6 months...yeah, that would just about do it, right? That would be plenty long enuff to napalm the Dims for the next decade or two. Talk about "scary".....

Hey.....anyone catch Pelosi's recent vow of taking back the house (next year) and passing a $15 min wage in their first 100 hours....... godawmighty, how does this woman keep her seat....? Can you say "shortened hours....layoffs....automation ...."? hahaha.....

[Vivienne Rey]

Originally Posted by goodolboy

Personally I am Agnostic, I am basing my opinion largely by the number of incidents, and body counts in modern times.

I am not aware of any recent Christian terrorism that approaches the current scale of Islamic terrorism in the world today. The Crusades ended in the sixteenth century.

I'm with you. It might not reach the scale of Islamic terrorism, but all that really says (to me, anyway), is that radical Muslims are more dedicated and skilled. But Planned Parenthood in 2015, The Centennial Olympic Park bombing (this guy also carried out other attacks on a lesbian nightclub and an abortion clinic), Phineas Priests and the Army of God...crazy. Christians think they're better because their crazies don't cray like Muslims' do. But the common denominator in all of the above is the belief in a god.

[goodolboy]

("I just wish Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters could be potus for, hmmmm maybe 4 to 6 months...yeah, that would just about do it, right? That would be plenty long enuff to napalm the Dims for the next decade or two. Talk about "scary".....")

Agreed,

Pelosi, https://youtu.be/1le_Y-xOGWg?t=18s

Maxine, https://youtu.be/svfRARyvg_4