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Old 01-27-2024, 08:26 AM   #31
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Trump


A bully with a big mouth.
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Old 01-27-2024, 08:40 AM   #32
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Nobody knows what if anything happened at the Department Store except Carroll and Trump. But Trump and his attorneys weren’t allowed to question whether Carroll was lying at the trial. The jury had to accept with certainty that Trump raped her. Is that Orwellian or what? If I weren’t posting from a cell phone I’d link to LustyLad’s Kangaroo Court post.
The first trial was the one where Carrol was awarded she MET the proof required of sexual assault, and a jury found Trump guilty of sexual assault. Trumps defense was, she's not my type, totally made up, all his normal shit...and his attorney failed to dissuade the jury of his Innocence.

What part did you miss on that?

They then awarded damages of 5mm. Add on the second defamation case where it was Trump's own big mouth and texting etc. That she was "this and that", and the award was this 83.5mm

All in, Trump took million dollar nuisance case and winningly, turned it into a 88.5 million dollar payday.

Add on attorney fees for both sides of he appeals...

My man will be well over 100 million dollars for having poor taste, a big mouth, and no ability to control himself.

He's his own worst enemy.... But I love seeing him prove me right.
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Old 01-27-2024, 08:50 AM   #33
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you are not wrong about that, his big mouth is his worst and enduring quality


if he has to pay the piper for that then so be it

but it doesn't mean he's guilty

Well a jury who sat through the presentation of facts and witnesses from both sides was there, and they found him guilty. These are NY residents and peers of the plaintiff and defendant. They believed Carrol over Trump.

If Trump is innocent, he should have hired a better attorney than the workaday Habba real estate one, and someone with better knowledge of court presentation etc. He bought a dime store attorney and is reaping the results. Funny that he's still keeping her while he loses not once, but twice, and is all but laughed at by the judge who schooled her on court practice of presenting evidence.

You can think he's innocent all day long, but in reality the people who spent hours and days and weeks listening found him guilty. Just cuz Fox News says he isn't, and OAN says he isn't, doesn't have one ounce of sway on their opinion journalism. You know how you know he's guilty?

A jury said he is. And to the tune of 5 million the first time and 83.5 million the second - that's 88.5 million not including attorney fees for having a big mouth, a hard-on, and the inability to control either.
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Old 01-27-2024, 09:37 AM   #34
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What i find absolutely hilarious about this entire series of events is the likelihood that nothing would ever have happened if Trump had simply had the discipline to say “No Comment” anytime her name was mentioned.

He didn’t have to confirm or deny anything. Sometimes saying nothing is the best strategy. Unfortunately i don’t think Trump has the ability to actually do that.
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Old 01-27-2024, 09:48 AM   #35
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Open message to Alina Habba:


Good luck collecting your fees. I filed bankruptcy, and listed there what Mr. Trump owes me.


Sincerely,
Rudy G.


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... See? ... Tiny is once again being level-headed about this.

Things will be a bit different on appeal.

These runaway jury awards are keen! ... Why not just make it 200 or
300 Million - it's all a ten-a-penny dream. ...

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Well he’s lost the first appeal.


Trump loses appeal of E Jean Carroll verdict finding him liable for sexual abuse and defamation

Alex Woodward - Monday 30 December 2024 15:11 GMT

A federal appeals court upheld a ruling against Donald Trump after he challenged a jury’s verdict that found him liable for sexually abusing and defaming a former magazine writer.

Monday’s decision from a three-judge panel with New York’s 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals follows a May 2023 verdict awarding E Jean Carroll $5 million for the former president’s ongoing defamation by denying claims that he sexually assaulted her in a department store in 1996.

In January, a second jury in a separate trial ordered Trump to pay Carroll more than $83 million in damages for his defamatory statements about the former Elle magazine writer.

Trump argued the verdict from the 2023 judgment should be tossed out on his claims that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear testimony from two other women who accused him of sexual misconduct.

One of those women, Jessica Leeds, testified that Trump groped her on a plane in the late 1970s. Another woman, former People magazine writer Natasha Stoynoff, said Trump forcibly kissed her at Mar-a-Lago in 2005.

Trump’s lawyers also said jurors also should not have listened to his comments on the so-called Access Hollywood tape, on which the president-elect brags about grabbing women’s genitals.

Appellate judges denied Trump’s demand for a new trial.

“Trump has not demonstrated that the district court erred in any of the challenged rulings, and Trump “has not carried his burden to show that any claimed error or combination of claimed errors affected his substantial rights as required to warrant a new trial,” they wrote.

“The jury made its assessment of the facts and claims on a properly developed record,” according to Monday’s decision.

Even if the trial judge somehow “erred in some of these evidentiary rulings — a proposition that we have rejected — taking the record as a whole and considering the strength of Ms. Carroll’s case, we are not persuaded that any claimed error or combination of errors in the district court’s evidentiary rulings affected Mr. Trump’s substantial rights,” the judges wrote.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2671584.html
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She won’t see a dime and will likely end up paying for Trump’s attorney.
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Old 12-30-2024, 02:42 PM   #38
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She won’t see a dime and will likely end up paying for Trump’s attorney.

"Appellate judges denied Trump’s demand for a new trial."


So.....what is your plan for Trump not paying a dime, and somehow she needs to pay for Trump's attorneys fees ?
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I’m not his or anyone else’s lawyer, so have no plan. You can bet his actual lawyers do.
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$80,000,000 is a lot of money, even for a billionaire. He'd have come out better by just admitting he did it.
He won't pay a dime of it. Haven't you figured it out yet that politics is nothing a but a crock.
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... Now, now there, mates - let's give the liberal lads their due.
The Manhattan Circuit Court (that's "New York") has made their
decision on the appeal and denyed it.

Hmmmm... Glad that they made their decision BEFORE next year. ( )
As this was expected.

And onward the appeals process will go - and with NEW heads
of the FBI/DOJ and a New AG. ...

Surely hoping that E. Jean Caroll doesn't have any upcoming
plans for the money. ... She just may be disappointed. ...

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Are you saying Mr. Trump can appeal again......even thought the appellate judges made their decision ?
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Old 12-30-2024, 10:32 PM   #43
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Are you saying Mr. Trump can appeal again......even thought the appellate judges made their decision ?
... Of course I am... Multiple grounds for appeal.
Most likely a new trial.

... New officials coming next year. ... Very soon.

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Dam 80 million will mean I can have a hooker on my dick continuously at 300 a hour for 30 years.
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I’m not his or anyone else’s lawyer, so have no plan. You can bet his actual lawyers do.

You don't get your attorney fees paid for when you lose your case. You may get them paid for if you win your case. Maybe this is what the MAGAS call......WINNING.


Can Trump come up with another one of his clever ideas ? How about using one of he constitutional amendments like he tried before ?
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