LIars Rapists and Sexual assault in Politics

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You can probably add LBJ to that list. On the other hand, there have been several recent presidents who have had marriages with no known infidelity -- Carter, Bush and Bush, Obama, Biden.

Yes, and stretching a bit, I think that FDR cut a wide swath in society before he got Polio.

For me then, the takeaway from this thread is that whether or not a President has been faithful, a gadabout or an outright rapist does not impact their ability to be a really great president of one of the worst ones ever.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Yes, and stretching a bit, I think that FDR cut a wide swath in society before he got Polio.

For me then, the takeaway from this thread is that whether or not a President has been faithful, a gadabout or an outright rapist does not impact their ability to be a really great president of one of the worst ones ever.

True.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Yes, and stretching a bit, I think that FDR cut a wide swath in society before he got Polio.

For me then, the takeaway from this thread is that whether or not a President has been faithful, a gadabout or an outright rapist does not impact their ability to be a really great president of one of the worst ones ever.

So essentially you think that morals aside, anybody can be president? Liars rapist and sexual assaulters should be given a pass?

[ICU 812]

What I am saying is that the historical record shows that some pretty a-moral (or imoral if you prefer) men have become president and managed to be effective world leaders despite their character flaws.

I am convinced that ythe converse is also true; that some presidents, while fait6hful and/or faith-based men, didn't quite make it as national executive or leader of the free world.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

What I am saying is that the historical record shows that some pretty a-moral (or imoral if you prefer) men have become president and managed to be effective world leaders despite their character flaws.

I am convinced that ythe converse is also true; that some presidents, while fait6hful and/or faith-based men, didn't quite make it as national executive or leader of the free world.

So men of morals are soft and poor leaders right?

If you're looking for a-moral strong leaders, most of the Charlie Manson's out there are locked up! (Of course there are still some that are floating around - and some facing for indictments in 90 plus felonies). The vast majority of leadership in public businesses, are not a-social law breakers. They are typical narcissists who see only through a singular lens, but there are also ppl who gain consensus through bringing sides together w mediation and dialogue. That has left Congress. If you're not alarmed by that, you should be. It's the biggest failure of the people that have been elected into these offices. When we start holding people accountable on both sides, that's when things will start to improve. Electing either of the dumbasses running right now won't do that.

[Redhot1960]

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Redhot1960

Thank you "Pepe."

Nothing funny about rape, no matter which group you identify with.

[Redhot1960]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Thank you "Pepe."

Nothing funny about rape, no matter which group you identify with.

I don't "identify" with either

[Redhot1960]

The "identify" game...


Te𝕏asLindsay™
@TexasLindsay_
UNBELIEVABLE—SDNY Judge Lewis Kaplan who infamously dismissed Prince Andrew's s•xual assault claims made by one of Jeffery Epstein’s human tr•fficking victims—is the SAME judge that presided over E. Jean Carrol vs. Trump’s defamation case—as well as the now infamous SBF/FTX trial.

Federal Judge Lewis Kaplan was also appointed by Bill Clinton.

h/t
@DrMcThickens

[Redhot1960]

[Salty Again]

... Blimey! ... Surely would seem by yer posts there, Red
- that you believe that Judge Kaplan is corrupt.

... No doubt - IF that is the case - Kaplan will be probed
come next year. ... .... Then, we'll know for sure.

#### Salty

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Thank you "Pepe."

Nothing funny about rape, no matter which group you identify with.

The board knows we are on the same side of the island, but I still have to do it:

There Is no bottom, right Wiki?

[eccieuser9500]

Keep the spirit humming.