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The_Waco_Kid · 03-15-2023, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HDGristle

I'll be dead long before retirement age, TWK. Zero concerns there unless the government reanimates me and converts me into a servitor.

Even then, I'd be less of a puppet than Tucker is.

I think your fears of a Russian / Chinese alliance are wildly overplayed. Both want to be the power top, and China isn't going to bend over for Russia like they did as second-fiddle to Stalin and accept the same type of lopsided deals.

this isn't the 1960's. China is the top dog now. but they'll use Russia as they see fit. you think Putin will see the knife coming?

Et tu, Xi?

BAAHHA

HDGristle · 03-15-2023, 11:06 PM

Russia/Iran will play out before China/Russia. You forget the part Russia played in the Century of Humiliation and the territory the CCP wants back.

China will never forget. And Putin knows it.

The_Waco_Kid · 03-15-2023, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HDGristle

Russia/Iran will play out before China/Russia. You forget the part Russia played in the Century of Humiliation and the territory the CCP wants back.

China will never forget. And Putin knows it.

the century of humiliation was ... a century ago. and China has only themselves to blame for it.

ah yes, those halcyon days of global imperialism .. the good old days when might was right and losers lost. such nostalgia!

bahhahahaa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation

HDGristle · 03-16-2023, 04:52 AM

Yet it still colors the CCP world view

RegeCordick · 03-16-2023, 08:02 AM

I don't think it's all that absurd that Russia's stance of "the Mother country", wants to re-annex the countries that were once part of their empire. To that; how far they want to roll back current status to old status would dictate how far they may go. When a crazy dictator is at the helm of any country- everything and anything is on the table. Who would have thought that Ukraine - would be sitting in the situation they are merely 2 yrs ago. Perhaps there was tensions not publicized prior, but I think it caught the majority of the world off guard. So the point is not that it's shocking they are fighting what russia calls a civil war, but rather, - where will it stop.

Once any group of people or leader shows you what they are capable of, you need to believe that they are ABSOLUTETLY capable of repeating that behavior, and more likely to go to further means to meet their objectives.

Jacuzzme · 03-16-2023, 01:06 PM

If Mexico annexed Texas (fat chance) most Americans would be for taking it back by whatever means necessary.

onawbtngr546 · 03-16-2023, 02:39 PM

The_Waco_Kid · 03-16-2023, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HDGristle

Yet it still colors the CCP world view

The_Waco_Kid · 03-16-2023, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Exactly!

this meme is appalling nonsense but it shows who the intolerant really are. the Left.

it's the Left that labels anyone who doesn't agree with them a "fascist Nazi". remember that when the Left suddenly doesn't agree with something you believe ..

chizzy · 03-16-2023, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

this meme is appalling nonsense but it shows who the intolerant really are. the Left.

it's the Left that labels anyone who doesn't agree with them a "fascist Nazi". remember that when the Left suddenly doesn't agree with something you believe ..

now now, as my dad told me, liberals are the most tolerant people on earth......................... . as long as you agree with them

The_Waco_Kid · 03-16-2023, 05:13 PM

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now now, as my dad told me, liberals are the most tolerant people on earth......................... . as long as you agree with them

exactly.

bahahahhaaaa

here is the Left when you don't agree with them

here is the Left when the revolution eats it's own ...

Jacuzzme · 03-16-2023, 05:17 PM

Interesting twist to the conversation, given that Biden and his old boss, along with other politicians from both sides, used Nazi stormtroopers to oust an elected government in Ukraine.

berryberry · 03-16-2023, 08:09 PM

Of course they still can't answer the question. It is quite telling

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Originally Posted by berryberry

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It's not the fact that we are indirectly (in some cases directly as in blowing up the Nordstream 2 pipeline) fighting a war with Russia. It's the fact that we have no reason nor business to fight a war with Russia.

Russia did not attack the USA. Russia did not provoke the USA. For those of you nazi loving, warmongers who support starting WWIII with a nuclear power, please explain all the reasons why this is a good thing. And make it substantive - not pejoratives about those "damn commies

Alas it was telling that none of the warmongers here were able to explain why they think starting a world war with a nuclear power over corrupt Ukraine is a good thing

So I will challenge them again to answer the question in a substantive manner, not the BS they spew about 'damn commies'

HDGristle · 03-16-2023, 11:33 PM

Can't is a poor assumption. Perhaps they're not interested in wasting time engaging someone they don't feel is actually listening.

berryberry · 03-17-2023, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HDGristle

Can't is a poor assumption. Perhaps they're not interested in wasting time engaging someone they don't feel is actually listening.

Nope. It's a simple question. If you and the others in favor of war are so zealous in your defense of Ukraine , you should be able to answer the question.

The fact that you and others avoid doing so speaks volumes.