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Old 02-12-2023, 07:15 AM   #31
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Default But seriously, you believe Ol' Joe isn't covering up money laundering?!?




Recall, Obama had said there was no strategic, national interest in Ukraine back in 2014.

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Rich’s excellent column on Obama’s fecklessness in the face of Putin’s Ukraine aggression notes that the president has resisted not only causing real pain to Russia’s economy but providing the Ukrainian military with the weapons it needs to defend its sovereign territory and defeat Putin’s thugs. On the latter, Charles Krauthammer made similar observations here.

Meanwhile, the Daily Beast’s Eli Lake reports that among the defensive assets our government has denied Ukraine is “radar jamming and detection equipment necessary to evade and counter [Russian] anti-aircraft systems.” Last month, when it became clear that Moscow was providing the anti-aircraft systems to the Russia-backed rebels, Kiev asked this equipment. Last week, one of those systems was used to shoot down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, killing 298 people.

I do not think the president’s opposition to arming Ukraine is explained by his intentional American decline, his stated desire that the conflict not escalate (as if Ukrainian weakness somehow discourages Putin’s aggression), or the risible suggestion—advanced by Obama’s former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton—that Russian operatives shooting planes out of the sky is Europe’s problem...

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Zelenskyy is a conman and so is Joe Biden for sending your tax dollars to line Zelenskyy's pockets.
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Yup. Obama wouldn't take Joeys advice to do more.
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Old 02-13-2023, 08:55 AM   #34
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This guy who getting his ass kick wants to control the world.
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That characterization can easily be made of about any politician. In my mind, perhaps only President Eisenhower and President Trueman were straight shooters as far as we know.

Everyone from JFK onwards had a sleaze factor of one degree or another. Before Trueman, FDR was quite the master of misdirection and before him, Wilson was too (Iam hazy on Harding and Hoover).

hoover and harding had some sleeaze. they weren't straight shooters tho.


coolige was considered a straight shooter. James Polk was one. one of the few who actually kept his campaign promise.
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He’s a good dancer.
the guy was an actor.



he did play the part of the president of his country when acting until he did it for real.
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the fact that zelensky has the smell of a con man may be due to his being an acting.

however, he is very annoying when he asks for more "aid", more "weapons".

its something PM Winston Churchil did not overdue publicly with the United States govt. he may have put pressure in back channel.

eventually, a lend lease legislation was made to supply the britain the supplies it needed for its war in germany.

the question here was the money and equipment given to ukraine a loan they will have to pay off in the future?
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the fact that zelensky has the smell of a con man may be due to his being an acting.

however, he is very annoying when he asks for more "aid", more "weapons".

its something PM Winston Churchil did not overdue publicly with the United States govt. he may have put pressure in back channel.

eventually, a lend lease legislation was made to supply the britain the supplies it needed for its war in germany.

the question here was the money and equipment given to ukraine a loan they will have to pay off in the future?
Why would the ruskies have a hard time with Zelenski getting arms from USA when they did the exact same thing?

And I don't hear any of the putin lovers here saying one word about the near $8 billion that was left as a balance. Makes Zelenski look like a thrifty shopper. But you ain't gonna hear the righties say that.
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Why would the ruskies have a hard time with Zelenski getting arms from USA when they did the exact same thing?

your question doesn't make any sense. russians have nothing to do with U.S. aid to UKR.


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And I don't hear any of the putin lovers here saying one word about the near $8 billion that was left as a balance. Makes Zelenski look like a thrifty shopper. But you ain't gonna hear the righties say that.
what 8 billion?
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